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Let's clarify the DBS Manga power levels

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by Blade, Nov 4, 2018.

  1. Blade DAN DAN

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    mostly

    keep in mind the BoG feats

    in the anime DBS BoG Saga

    that's how the universal level was established, and BoG Redberry Kakarot is fodder compared with almost all the characters of the next arcs

    so simple

    now

    in the manga BoG Saga, it was underwhelming because it was only a potential universal threat and lost his Redberry form very quickly, unlike the anime version, where Nerdku unconsciously absorbed the God Ki without losing it's powers and properties, and continued fighting for a while, as SSJ1








    how do we treat them?

    1) manga power levels = anime power levels, despite the anime showing many superior feats on action?

    or

    2) being multi galaxy level+ to possibly universal levels?

    discuss
     
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  2. JayDZ3 Well-Known Member

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    Chadhan is universal:wow
     
  3. Superman Well-Known Member

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    @Blade why does Beers say he is the GoD from the 6th universe?
     
  4. WorldsStrongest Dio With It

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    "Goku isnt universal thats never stated"

    "Dumbass, thatsjust a mistranslation the Korean dub is what gets it right"

    "The narrator doesnt know anything"

    :hestonpls
     
  5. Montanz Lives under a rock

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    Manga Goku is only multi-galaxy at best, the manga doesn't really tell you how long it would have taken for the universe to be destroyed, it could have taken hours for all we know.

    If we do an extremely anal interpretation of the feat one could even argue it's just barely multi-solar/galaxy level considering considering elder Kai considers people like kid buu a threat to the universe as well.
     
  6. Superman Well-Known Member

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    Yeah people are being anal about the feat, yet here you are doing exactly that in the favor of the opposite side of the argument.
     
  7. Blade DAN DAN

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  8. Hazard Black♠️Vegeta

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    ssjg is multi galaxy to universal.
    i mean mere shockwaves had the ENTIRE universe in danger now imagin a 100% ki blast.
    and we know they can do ki blasts that have a large range.
     
  9. Blade DAN DAN

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    the anime is already universal

    so

    you pretty much agree with the manga version being multi galaxy+ to likely universal = slightly weaker than anime
     
  10. Hazard Black♠️Vegeta

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    yes.
     
  11. Mabel Gleeful Mage

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    I'm of the opinion we should stick with multi-galaxy level. There hasn't been a single feat comparable as of yet, and Beerus and SSG Goku's clash is just not as impressive in the manga as it is in the anime, nor does it have the same accolades by Whis, Elder Kai or the narrator. We also see similar feats in the ToP that are just as if not more impressive, with Jiren shaking the world of void just by flexing and Toppo straight up reshaping it with his Hakai.

    We can also count Black's scythe opening up or creating another dimension where an infinite number of clones are constantly created.
     
  12. Plaatjies21 Well-Known Member

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    I'm just here to try and answer the question:

    This is hypothetical with Goku Buu saga base = 1

    Regular SSJ Multipliers:
    SSJ = BASE X50
    SSJ2 = SSJ X2
    SSJ3 = SSJ2 X4

    Goku BoG base = 2
    SSJ3 = 800

    Vegeta BoG base = 2
    SSJ2 = 400
    SSJ2 My Bulma = 550 (I'm saying that Vegeta got stronger than Buu saga SSJ3)

    Hypothetical Vegetto BoG base = 10 000
    SSJ2 = 1 000 000

    Beerus heavily suppressed = 2 000
    Beerus end BoG suppressed = 5 000 000

    Goku SSG Ritual = 3 000 000
    SSG = BASE X 1 500 000
    It logically had to be stronger than a hypothetical Vegetto even with SSJ2

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    Rof
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    Goku did not absorb SSG and so him and Vegeta who trained to match him isn't as strong as anime

    Goku Rof base = 100
    SSB(initial) = 7 500 000 000
    SSB(initial ) = SSG X 50
    SSB (exhausted) = 75 000 000
    SSB (exhausted) = SSG X0.5

    Vegeta Rof base = 100
    SSB(initial) = 7 500 000 000
    SSB (exhausted) = 75 000 000


    Freeza Final form = 90
    Golden Freeza = 9 000 000 000
    Golden Freeza = BASE X1 000 000 000
    Golden Freeza (exhauseted) = 180 000
    G. Freeza (exhausted ) = BASE X 20 000

    Goku said that he won because Freeza stamina loss but Goku adds that he would lose if he lost his own stamina tho.

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    U6 VS U7
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    Goku post RoSat base = 200
    SSJ = 10 000
    SSG = 300 000 000
    SSB(inital) = 15 000 000 000

    Vegeta post RoSat base = 200
    SSJ = 10 000
    SSB(initial) = 15 000 000 000
    SSB(exhausted) = 150 000 000

    Botamo = 40
    Frost Final Form = 5 000
    Maretta = 6 000

    Cabba = 200
    SSJ Grade 1= 10 000

    Grade 1 puts a strain on transforming so even Base Cabbe and base Vegeta are equal, the strain of grade compared to grade 4 allows Vegeta to finesse.

    Hit = 300 000 000
    Hit Full Power = 500 000

    Hit not being allowed to use assassin techniques and being over reliant Time skip cause him to lose to equal SSG Goku.

    I'll do the rest later this was tiring.
     
  13. Blade DAN DAN

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    another one who agrees with me :myningen
     
  14. The Supreme God GODSPEED Aka Thespiritdetective . ART IS AN EXPLOSION

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    When Champa was fighting berrus in the mango. Champa got frustrated and began to charge up a blast. He then said I dontd give a dam .about you or this universe any more. Meaning he was basically planning to take the whole shit out in one shot. I say this to say mango beerus as well as the other gods should be universal.
     
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    I think this feat is meant to be no less impressive than the anime one, but portrayal wise it sure is lacking.

    Definitely multi-galaxy at the bare minimum tho.
     
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    Manga Zamasu in a bit of rage said he was gonna destroy the galaxy..

    Did Toyo retcon his own universal feat or...?
     
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    Beerus and Champa can casually destroy the universe. This isn't exclusive to them either, apparently all the GoDs can do that, which is why the rule was implemented that 2 GoDs shouldn't fight each other freely.
    MUI Goku and Jiren are stronger than GoDs
    So Goku's above Universal. Simple
     
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    He didn't want to destroy the Universe, just that annoying Galaxy that was home to the number one worst ningen ever created
     
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    Try explaining that to @Superstars

    :tomha
     
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    zamasu is weaker than beerus
     
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    He said that while fighting SSB Goku who shook the universe in a weaker form
     
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    Doesn't make him any less weak, also he didnt want to destroy the universe.
     
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    the thing is Manga MUI has very less to do with brute power in that way tho
    Whis said it just annihilates the impact of the ennemies attack by taking it in the parts of the body with no vital point ( that’s what UI omen does)
    But once Goku get MUI I don’t think he gets stronger in this sense he just become almost untouchable and is extremely precise! JIren complained about him striking him In the fewest opened points of his body and his weak points. Sk my verdict? MUI manga isn’t about brute power like in the anime but extreme precision to a ridiculous level and the auto dodging
     
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    we know that most of the DBS manga characters are at least multi galaxy level+

    but thanks to this

    indeed, the manga GoD's are universal and also characters like Blue Vegito, MUI Kakarot, Jiren, ToP mastered blue Goku and Vegeta, Gohan and Kefla

    but still the anime is universal+ on a higher degree
     
  26. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    In the anime, weakest universal level is BoG God Goku

    In the manga, weakest universal are the Gods of Destruction

    So the manga is overall weaker, it doesnt scale to the anime
     
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