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Love vs Komamura

Discussion in 'Bleach' started by LittleLamplightMassacre, Apr 4, 2011.

  1. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    Love still wins in my opinion.
     
  3. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    The Visored VC's can hold their own against the released 3rd Espada

    :maybe

    The Visored Captains...actually one Visored Captain in particular beat up on the first Espada
     
  4. hmph Serious about fiction

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    I see Komamura beating Love into the ground with sheer force. It'd take him some time, but what can Love do?
     
  5. Greed You lose...Again

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    Now why on earth would I believe Love in Shikai can beat Bankai Komamura =/, when they both have the same fighting style?
     
  6. Robert Haydn Evil Genius

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    Why should Komamura get to use his Bankai when Love can't?
    Vizard mask isn't comparable to Bankai.
     
  7. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    Because Base Love is a lot stronger than Base Komamura? =/
     
  8. hmph Serious about fiction

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    And what makes you think that?

    Some people think it, or else mask + shikai, is.
     
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  10. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    First let me ask you, do you think any current Captains could tank Stark's ceros in base or dispel them easily with Shikai?
     
  11. Greed You lose...Again

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    Ukitake can and has, so has Shunsui
     
  12. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    Junior Captains. Not senior Captains :maybe:gun
     
  13. Greed You lose...Again

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    Zaraki could tank, Komamura probably could as well.

    Deflect? Probably Zaraki. Im not sure how Koma's shikai works so who knows, but all implications point to him being able to as well
     
  14. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    Now, could either of them deflect multiple ceros? Or tank multiple ceros?
     
  15. hmph Serious about fiction

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    None of the captains have the requisite defensive shikai type. Byakuya, Soifon, Komamura, Hitsu, they're all offensive shikai's. As for tanking them in base, sure Koma and Ken can.
     
  16. Greed You lose...Again

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    As Hmph said, Koma's shikai is offensive, hence I said I dunno how it works. Do I think he could do if he were to attack Starrk and Starrk were firing his cero's?

    Yes, if its wide enough
     
  17. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    This is Komamura's Shikai we're talking about, man. The minute Aizen flexed his spiritual pressure

    Unlike Love's weapon which remained intact.
     
  18. hmph Serious about fiction

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    So what?

    Komamura was heavily wounded, and the sword he creates may well be more brittle than the actual zan. It could also be as simple as the one Aizen's chose to target.
     
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    Likewise, Koma's shikai met Love's and neither from the other

    Love's Shikai when Aizen broke Komamura's
     
  20. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    That's definitely the case but it's irrelevant. Also, it's not as simple as the one Aizen chose to target.




    Also, another question. Do you guys think any current VC stands a chance against Harribel?
     
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    It isn't irrelevant. :lmao Its just as relevant as whatever it is you're trying to claim

    Also, are you using the logic that because Person A fought Person B, Person A is on Person B's level?
     
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    It's irrelevant because Love was also wounded at the time.

    I'm asking if you think any VC wouldn't outright be blitzed and destroyed by Harribel
     
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    Who knows?

    Did Harribel try to outright blitz and destroy Lisa and Hiyori?
     
  24. hmph Serious about fiction

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    What makes it irrelevant?

    In a straight fight? No. I hope you have somewhere you're actually going somewhere with this, or are you going to try to build an argument off a single panel that very clearly does not show an actual fight as a fight? Because, you know, I've seen people claim Hitsugaya is a straight match for Aizen in a swordfight, and their argument has as much evidence as that one.



    Pfft.
     
  25. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    I've already explained why it's irrelevant; because Love was also injured at the time. And as for y'know, you being wrong? I showed you the panels.



    Also, didya forget actual feats?


     
  26. hmph Serious about fiction

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    The smoke swirls around in a circle, sort of. That's about it. Komamura was more grievously injured, more recently, and may well have a more brittle weapon... it's supposed to disapear anyway. None of this really shows base Love as stronger than base Komamura.

    ...you're missing the point.

    A. Those were less of a 1v1 than Hitsu's clash with Aizen.
    B. She was masked for all of that.
    C. Being brushed off doesn't really show a strength feat. We don't see how the blades connect, so we don't even know who was attacking. Really, there is a reason she immediatly used shikai while 2 other opponents closed in and they still did got a draw.
     
  27. LittleLamplightMassacre Monkeys dehyping one at a time

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    It shows Tengumaru is more well suited for combating Stark's ceros than Komamura's Tenken. Also, the bolded shows exactly that about their Zans.

    More grievously injured needs proof.

    Lisa's skirmish lasted a lot longer.

    A. What. No they weren't. Shunsui interfered every single time.
    B. your point? Her mask is part of her power
    C.

    And, yes, so please explain to me how two current VCs would be able to stand a chance against Harribel with Shikais, even if they did get masks.

     
  28. hmph Serious about fiction

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    Which does not show that their base is different, the ultimate topic of this argument.

    The point was that Aizen didn't attack him back.

    And Halibel was going for Hitsugaya while Hiyori helped Lisa's actual attack.

    Was not the entire purpose of this argument about base vs base vizards vs current Gotei 13?

    Yeah, captain level people are pretty "rare." It'd be pretty surprising with a group of 8 people with that kind of power randomly appearing.

    Why should they? It's a 3v1. Her sonido would be a problem as well as that absurd reach, but she still can't make a decent attack without being blindsided. It's not as if a vice-captain can't do anything against a captain, give them a mask and replace captain with Halibel and there you go.
     
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