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Luffy Takes On A Gauntlet

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by Phantom Thief, Oct 6, 2019.

  1. Phantom Thief

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    This is current Luffy without G4. He can still use G2/G3.

    Round 1: RS Sanji
    Round 2: Ace
    Round 3: Wano Law
    Round 4: Enma Zoro
    Round 5: Shutenmaru
    Round 6: Donquixote Doflamingo
    Round 7: Charlotte Cracker
    Round 8: Jack

    Recovers from each round
     
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    Round 1: Sanji should win high/extreme diff. I think that G4Luffy>Zoro w/ Enma>Sanji w/RS>G2/3 Luffy>Zoro/Sanji without Enma/RS

    Round 2: Luffy wins mid diff. I think Ace is is comparable to the M3 post skip, but with all this training and power up he has been surpassed by Luffy,Sanji and Zoro

    Round 3: mmm, either way extreme diff. Contrary to Sanji and Zoro Law didn’t get any power-up. Back in Dressrosa, I thought that law would have beaten extreme diff Zoro, and would have lost Extreme diff to Luffy. In the meantime Luffy has got g4 and a lot of training though. I am sure Law will get to shine, but for now I’ll say he is around this level

    Round 4: Zoro wins high diff.

    Round 5: Shutenmaru is ~ Jack, YC3 level. Shutenmaru still wins with high/extreme diff

    Round 6: Luffy wins high/extreme diff

    Round 7: Cracker wins high/extreme diff. He was probably still a bit stronger than early WCI Island G4 Luffy

    Round 8: Same as above, High-extreme diff for Jack
     
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    1 RS sanji win , high/extrem diff
    2 Luffy win mid high , unless law manage to trick him with his DF
    3 Luffy win. Ace is good in term of devil fruit. Not sure phisicaly. Not sire what diff
    4 Zoro win, high diff. His attack are quite lethal for ruber to overcome.
    5 shuntenmaru doesn't seem jack level. He lose.
    6 DD is complicated. Luffy is overall above him in CoA/CoA and speed... but his DF is a pain in the ass. Luffy extrem diff
    7 Crackere win , unless luffy's advanced coa work on him.
    8 Jack win do to massive endurance/durability
     
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    Lmao. Current Luffy without G4 is YC1 level, YC2 at worst.

    He beats everyone here.
     
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    Right now he makes it to Cracker. Might change once we see the results of his training but for now I'm not sure his haki is good enough to beat Cracker without G4.

    Sure if it was 1v1 against Cracker's base form, but he's ill-equipped to deal with him spamming Biscuit soldiers.
     
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    Stops at Sanji. Without G4 he can't beat Wano RS Sanji. This makes no sense at all.
     
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    Lol, nah. The Raidsuit doesn't bring Sanji up from being weaker than DR G2/G3 Luffy to being a powerhouse capable of fighting a massively improved G2/G3 Luffy with FS and enhanced CoA.
     
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    Why?RS Sanji pretty much tanked an ancient Zoan kick,blindised him and more or less one shotted by non named drop kick (fight ended after it). Dressrosa\WCI Sanji had problems vs someone who is more or less around P1 (may be weaker or stronger) and couldn't even bypass Daifuku's haki. RS is a very strong boost as it seems.
     
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    It's a decent boost, sure, but Daifuku, Oven, and Page One pale in comparison to current Luffy without G4. How is Sanji supposed to hit someone with FS as proficient as Luffy's is now? Or what about the advanced CoA? G2/G3 Luffy would treat any of these guys like Katakuri treated Ichiji, somebody who's roughly on par with them. Sanji did well against P1 but he still got smacked a bit. Luffy isn't getting hit whatsoever and he has the necessary CoA to do some serious damage. Far more than P1's casual slap, which still made Sanji go "ow" even if it was fairly minor.
     
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    Sanji is also very proficient in CoO and his speed is boosted by RS. And he is invisible (though if I am correct Luffy can see haki auras,but I may be wrong). They'll both have hard time hitting each over. The only dangerous thing for Sanji here is advanced CoO if it can go around his RS,though he also has moves like hell memories and diablo jambe boosted by RS (that he didn't even use vs P1) that can wound base/G2 Luffy really bad. If anything this is no less than extreme diff either way. Without G4 Luffy can't comfortably win.
     
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    how you gonna have shutenmaru below doffy even tho he was shown as capable enough to fight on par with jack?
     
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    They had a brief skirmish. You tryna say Jack's gonna waste Doffy in the same amount of time that he was fighting Shutenmaru for? Hard to compare both of them to eachother. They're close enough to one another that I kind of just said screw it and went with my gut.
     
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    yea i think doffy would get wasted by jack
     
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    Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you here
     
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    i mean, he can sorta kinda hang with his bigger and more versatile bag of tricks but even then, jack has the defense to resist him and in a cqc fight like shutenmaru was doing, i dont see doffy doing well at all

    i guess he could force a stalemate by just camping in the air? unless jack has air slashes with his blades (shotels i think theyre called)
     
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    Jack is likely a bit weaker than Dofla. No evidence or feats that put him physically above Jozu. Parasite should work on him and Dofla will just turn him into personal mammoth mount.
     
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    He loses all of them, with varying degrees of difficulty. He'll give Zoro and Cracker around mid diff, the others high.
     
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    So Luffy with Adv CoO/CoA without G4 is a mid diff for YC3s?
     
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    My main gripe was just that the brevity of Shutenmaru and Jack's fight doesn't really tell us much about how Shutenmaru compares to Doffy, because I don't see Doffy doing much worse in that short a timespan. In a drawn out affair, absolutely no way Jack loses and it might just barely be a high-difficulty fight if Doffy isn't lame and just goes for a battle of attrition.
     
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    Not in general, but for Cracker. The other YC3s on the list need high diff to beat him.
     
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    That would put G2/3 Luffy at YC4, so no
     
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    I don't think most YC3s would need high diff to beat Snack. G2/3 Luffy is probably somewhere in between YC3 and YC4.
     
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    Tempted to agree with Dunno here, but I think Luffy would fare pretty well against Cracker right now considering his main issue was not being able to break through Cracker's biscuit armor. With passive arc gains and advanced CoA I feel like he'd be able to break them now without G4.
     
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    G4less Luffy is YC2 level easy. We saw base Luffy keeping up with Katakuri and all of his jail training improves his base strength. He beats everyone here but Jack/Zoro/Cracker and even then those can be possible.
     
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    He might stop at Zoro. It's hard to say because we haven't seen how strong Zoro is now. But assuming he makes it through that fight, he stops at Cracker.
     
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    He MIGHT stop at Zoro. :gglife

    The Grand Master Undestimation.
     
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    I’m willing to acknowledge his chances despite multiple arcs of relative stagnation and his recent power up being a sword he hasn’t yet mastered. Against an opponent who’s shown vast and consistent improvement during his absence from the manga, no less.

    Take it or leave it. :dotell
     
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    stagnation?

    you mean no one being strong enough to challenge the god
     
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    I mean the god being absent since the Old Testament.
     
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