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Luke vs Jacen

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome Archive' started by Gunners, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. Gunners .

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    Meh this thread is mainly done due to my limited knowledge on these characters. :(

    Series of 3 anyway.

    First fight is with lightsabers only to test their skills with the sword, they can still use the force to predict where the attacks will come but not in an offensive manner or away to ward of attacks.

    Second fight, with force ability only. No lightsaber, to see who has better force ability and control over the force.

    Third fight is lightsaber and force skills, to see who is better all around.

    Location is neutral, though there are objects that allow them to take cover and objects for them to throw.
     
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  2. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    All go to luke.

    1. Luke went through an army of Vong, moving fast enough to be described as invisible to toher Jedi. He dueled with (and lost to but still impressive) Reborn Palpatine.

    2. Luke manipulated blackholes and as of DE if I recall, used his power to land a Star Destroyer. He beat an entire of droids with ease as well. He created a light side insta-kill to Force lightning.

    3. ...Luke in even more pwnage.

    Jacen has nowhere near the feats of lightsaber of Force ability Luke does.
     
  3. Pipboy Now With 96% More Pip

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    1. Luke, is still the better duelist

    2. Jacen, Luke has already admitted that Jacen has far wider and knowledgeable control of the force, more precise and has had communion.

    3. Luke, because Jacen needs at least 2 more books by his own admission to win it.
     
  4. Sasori-puppet#296 number 296

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    At this moment Luke rapes. In the near future my guesses that Jacen will win.
     
  5. Soul Vibe Formerly known as Espada

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    i thought this was done already?

    but anyways, Luke would win for scenario one, Jacen would win for scenario two. Luke has held the title for best swordsman in the galaxy since the end of the Vong war, and that hasnt changed. Jacen, however, has learned a lot more Force skills than Luke has with the Jennessari and Fallenassi and Adepts and other Force users, plus he already has an impressive amount of Force control himself at the end of the Vong war against Omini. In a combined fight though, I'd say Luke still wins due to experience. That may change soon though, based on how LotF is going.
     
  6. Fang Titan

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    Jacen can not use Green Spark, which is considered more powerful then Dark Side Force Lightning. Jacen's understanding of Force techniques are coming around the level of skill that Yaddle was at.

    However saying he trumps Luke is radically fail in terms of knowledge.
     
  7. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Does anyone remember Yoda?

    Several centuries of Force knowledge on Palpatine and they were exact equals as of ROTS.

    More knowledge in SW does not always equal more raw power. Example: Kreia is undoubtedly more informed in terms of the Force than Nihilus but he punked her with ease.
     
  8. Fang Titan

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    That said, Luke has an extensive knowledge of the Dark Side from Palpatine in Dark Empire issues. He will pound Jacen to nothing.
     
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    You mean the same green "lightning" that jacen used on Ebaq-9 but his nature of understanding lead him to not want to kill with it? Or are you talking about how jacen unmade Onimi through the force, something that was a far greater achievement than the spark.

    How many times do the characters have to say in character that jacen has more force knowledge? I mean before you wake up and smell the spunk?
     
  10. Zaelapolopollo Master of the Fates of Arda

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    Random moments of Deus Ex Machina power and plot devices do not equal power. Jacen did that while super-amped via plot necessity.

    Not impressive.
     
  11. Fang Titan

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    Luke created the Green Spark/Electric Judgement, Jacen didn't. This is a feat equal to Windu's creation of Vaapad. Jacen was taught a specific amount skills by Vegere who'se knowledge imprinted on Jacen is what allowed him to beat Onimi.

    Luke shielded a whole fucking planet wiht the Force with hardly any stress. He so skilled in the Force so greatly that a black hole was stated to have no effect on him.
     
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    Did not read the NJO? Do you not remember Ebaq-9? I mean I know you have no idea what electric judgement is, that much is clear, but you seem to have forgotten that Ebaq-9 was before the assualt on Coruscant so what on earth is your point?
     
  13. Lightysnake Niku still has bad taste

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    Luke's Emerald Lightning was described as 'Green Sparks' and later duplicated in the Kilik Wars. It's a fan name, yes, but it's a much more powerful version of Electric Judgment.

    and thus far, most everything of what Jacen knows Luke knew first. It doesn't matter how much Jacen knows: in sheer power and control over the Force, Luke has Jacen absolutely crushed. Knowledge is not equivalent to direct power as SW has shown numerous times.

    At this point in time, Jacen cannot outmatch Luke in any area. The man is able to become one with the Force, root himself in its center, etc: He's easily the most powerful being in SW bar none.
     
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