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Lyrical Rap or Mumble Rap?

Discussion in 'Music Department' started by MaruUchiha, Oct 20, 2018.

Which is better?

  1. Lyrical Rap

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    92.3%
  2. Mumble Rap

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
  1. MaruUchiha

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    Cardi and 6ix9ine aren't mumble rap. And neither is better than the other. It depends on the mood and purpose.
     
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  3. MaruUchiha

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    They might not mumble but Mumble Rap is an umbrella term.. They def fall in the category of Mumble Rap
     
  4. Mali

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    Can we get working definitions for both styles? Seems a bit vague.
     
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    Then how big is this umbrella? If you're not a wordsmith dropping poetic metaphors you're a mumble rapper? Cardi B is as much a mumble rapper as Drake.
     
  6. MaruUchiha

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    Lyrical Rap: Technical rhyming patterns, "preachy" lyrics, Boom Bap beats
    Mumble Rap: Dumbed down rhyming, lyrics about money cars jewelry sex etc, Trap beats
     
  7. MaruUchiha

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    I'm starting to see what's going on here lol.. You like 6ix9ine and Cardi B don't you? Be honest or i don't respect you
     
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    I like a few songs from both sure. You still haven't answered your definition of "mumble rap." :hm
     
  9. MaruUchiha

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    See?
    "They don't mumble" really just means "I'm a fan"
    :mjlol
    Didn't i explain that already or are you not paying attention?
     
  10. Mali

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    Okay so does an artist have to display all of the features you mentioned to be considered a mumble/lyrical rapper or do certain features trump others in terms of categorising?
     
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    Or just..."they don't mumble":maybe
     
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  12. MaruUchiha

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    No they need atleast those features i mentioned. There's more qualities to both types of rappers but those things i named are the main basic things they need
     
  13. Mali

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    I'd like to point out that this entire discussion is corny and has been for the longest time (intelligent vs unintelligent, which is what's being rehashed) but I'm just really curious about OPs understanding of the labels.
     
  14. MaruUchiha

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    Another Mumble Rap fan lol, and you gotta change that profile pic and signature before you call anything corny
     
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    Seriously my guy?
     
  16. MaruUchiha

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    Wanna elaborate or do you always leave vague comments?
     
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    Not always, you're pushing it saying that but I won't argue you on that matter , it's childish.

    It's simple actual real rap... lyrical rap, rap that has meaning, a message. I just got done listening to pac and then I saw this thread...

    All those rappers you listed as "mumble rappers" won't last that long and in terms of true skill, have none honestly. I'd give future props, he's decent and has some songs, but the rest just suck.
     
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    Cardi is the result of social media stardom and reality TV, she's got close to no skill and is simply popular because of her antics.
     
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    Imagine making an entire thread just to condescend mumble rap fans. What a stunt.
     
  20. MaruUchiha

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    I didn't make it for that I made it for the discussion.. Maybe you shouldn't like dumb music then you wouldn't be butthurt
     
  21. MaruUchiha

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    @Selena Leave a comment next time instead of negging and running away, not my fault you like trash rappers.. Cardi B is garbage
     
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    Didn't know she had such a following :lmao
     
  24. MaruUchiha

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    Let's see :quite

    Dumbed down rhyming? Check
    Only raps about money, cars, clothes, sex, drugs, jewelry, etc? Check
    Generic Trap beats? Check

    Yep she's a mumble rapper :edu
     
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    Mumble rap is garbage so there's is that. Thing is it's more because Mumble Rappers are untalented. That's all they know how to do and honestly it could be done in a way that it wasn't garbage (like if Kendrick decided to do mumble rap he could probably do it better).
     
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    More like swag rap, someone who doesn’t mumble shouldn’t be called a mumble rapper.
     
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    Typical rap elitist . Prolly worship Cole like he's God!:bookerskully
     
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    Like I said before Mumble Rap is an umbrella term, rappers that you apparently would label "swag rappers" fall into the category of Mumble Rap
     
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    Not really Cole is one of the better New School rappers to me but not a huge fan.. Why are you still mad? Your fault for having shit taste in Hip Hop not mine
     
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    Word. It's even worse knowing that none of them can justify the taste claims they've made. Real new found rap nerdery type stuff. They'll grow out of it though.
     
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