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Mael (Nanatsu no Taizai) vs Gerard Valkyrie (Bleach)

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by Dr. White, Sep 13, 2018.

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  1. Dr. White Out of college, money spent. See no future, pay no rent.

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    Inspired by the King vs Hitsugaya thread. Thought it is a neat matchup w/ some similarities between series.

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    Location: Britannia Mountain Range
    Distance: 20m

    Mael begins in demon-angel hybrid form.

    Who takes this?
     
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    Is it 4 commandments mode Mael?

    Either way he wont be able to kill Gerard
     
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    Can he kill Gerard? Guy came back from having his head pulped, among other things. I think you need to soul fuck him to actually put him down for good.
     
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    Begins as angel/demon hybrid form (regular looking estarossa with black/white wings).

    Well Mael has a bunch of way to attempt to deal with gerard.
    - Incapaciatation via mindfuck.
    - Attempt at poisoning his matter with arrow of salvation.
    - Seal him with scythe or darkness.

    Not saying they will work, and both have amazing regen, so I thought it was a fun match.
     
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    how does gerard resist maels love

    they’re comparable so all of maels hax should work just fine

    he probably can’t kill gerard but he has plenty of tools to incapacitate here
     
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    He doesnt have it here, and Gerard has resisted stuff at that level before
     
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    Gerald give him a real reason to cry.
     
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    yes he does, and when did Gerard resist a mindfuck?
     
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    Regular Mael never used Love or any other commanment abilities
     
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    And I said he can absorb his other commandment during the course of the fight. Begins in form x =/ restricted to form x.
     
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    Mael would need a miracle to win
    :whitebeard
     
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    Yea good luck transforming, that would only leave him a big open target for Gerard or just make Gerard stronger. Once Hoffnung comes out Mael is pretty much screwed
     
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    He transformed several times in front of several faster and more mobile island level characters. So not seeing your point. Like I could say the same thing about gerard transforming, ya know since he begins in base and has to get up to a certain level which is much less casually than transforming in a blast of power and fighting from there.

    What is gerard gonna do to arrow of salvation getting dropped on him? Or darkness that was potent enough to one shot tarmiel who has both logia, resistance to darkness nullification effect and high tier regen? This is even before he becomes the current form of Mael.
     
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    Everyone just stood there while Mael was in his cocoon, literal fodder had time to run around and talk while he was doing it.

    The more damage Gerard takes the stronger he will get, and hes already island level in his base form. Once Miracle kicks in, Mael has nothing to kill him
     
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    Lmao you mean the "cocoon" that is shooting out omnirdirectional burst of island+ light and darkrays?

    You still aren't even debating here. You're trying to use low brow tactics while dismissing everything I bring up. Fodder? Really? It took him a couple of moments to transform, Gerard cant even fly, doesn't have anyway of reaching him, yet he kills him before he transforms lol? That's like me saying "One Piece fodders are as fast as Fuji's meteors because they had time to run away. ".

    Tarmiel has logia, high tier regen, and resistance to darkness nullification, and was oneshotted. Why would base Gerard be any different? You are going pretty far into NLF here with the miralce.

    Ok? Estarossa is also island level in base, and I'm pretty sure base gerard was casually wrecked, so idk why he'd be scaled to the power of shikai kenpachi.

    You still have yet to explain how miracle saves him from mind fuck, continuously rotting away, or potentially be silenced.
     
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    Gerard stomps, literally.
     
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    All quincies can fly... The beams that damaged tarmiel dont really matter to Gerard because Gerard was frozen (sealed) and still regened. not even ban could do that.
     
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    Gerard never flew in base. I know when he releases he gets wings. Unless I missed something.

    False.
    Tarmiel was infected by Estarossa's darkness and it engulfed him and stopped his power, then he released and completely negated it. It took Estarossa going assault mode to be capable of passing their resistance. And the Mael in this fight just one shotted Tarmiel with his passive darkness attack.

    Ban has been "killed" in many ways including freezing IIRC. His exploits in Purgatory are also ridiculous. Gerard just resisted Hitsu's freezing.
     
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    Maybe you missed Mayuri flying around Pernida with a quincy tech, or the wings Gerard got before the zero division was defeated .

    We dont even know if hes dead .

    Gerard can regen in that state not just survive from being killed . He literally reformed his body when his entire body was frozen (sealed) and with hax freezing to boot.
     
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    Those rays would only make Gerard stronger, which was my point. If Mael beats the shit out if him before he cocoons, Gerard will slap him out of it. If Mael transforms immediately the beams will only boost Gerard’s power
     
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    can you post scans?
    Even if, Mael's transformation is still extremely quick, and shoots out attacks from all directions. I don't see how he would stop it.

    Sariel was dying in his arms from being hit, and Tarmiel got his face blasted in and has been gone fore umpteen chapters. Said darkness going past his nullification resistance and logia, and regen. Even if he comes back it will be some time later, and still counts as incapacitation.

    What are you talking about? He gets frozen. His head gets cut off. Gerards ability kicks in and bypasses Hitsu's cancel and he regens. Gerards regen isn't anything special, it was his resistance to Hitsu's hax.

    Tarmiel has the same or better regen, and did essentially the same thing as Gerard did.

    And that was a much weaker form than his actual one.

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    Yes his resistance is impressive but Mael has killed someone with resistance, regen, and logia.

    Outside of that The angels used Enlil to kill Mael because they felt they would need to destroy him on a molecular level because of regen, angels have survived brain destruction, having their spine severed, Estarossa had his torso completely destroyed, etc.
     
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    Ok if you aren't going to respond to my points then this is pointless. You just keep bringing him up Miracle as NLF while presenting no arguments or counter arguments.
     
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    Gerard:
    Regens his entire body while he's frozen to the core (sealed) with hax ice.

    Tarmiel:
    Can't regen if someone blocks it in any way

    Even Ulq regened his lower half, wonderwais regened his torso, ichiog, aizen... Gerard miracle has far superior regen than tarmiel.
     
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    Mayuri couldn't dave any cells or pernida due to his power period that's why nemu has had her brain collected so that pernida would rapidly regen till death...
     
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    archangels and the like have extremely high levels of regeneration. molecular damage or higher is needed to get rid of them completely.

    you read the manga?
     
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    Gerards main weakness is soul absorption. I say anyone who can do that or remove him from the battlefield can handle him.


     
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    He can regen from ambient energy in the air, thats better regen than the Archangels
     
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    yet a pierce through his face killed him ??
     
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    Did everyone just forget even literally fodder humans can completely resist Soul Manipulation in Bleach, lol?
     
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