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Man, fusion has an even shittier win/loss ratio than the Spirit Bomb.

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball' started by ~VK~, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. ~VK~ The King

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    These fusion niggas almost never seem to finish the job. If we take into account all the big fusion moments across the franchise than basically only super gogeta in movie 12 managed to not fuck around and finish the job.

    Gotenks failed against super buu, vegetto failed against both Buuhan and zamasu and gogeta SSJ4 failed to beat omega shenron in GT. Shit's sad. I hope this new gogeta follows more into his movie version footsteps than his GT counterpart lol.
     
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    That's because Toriyama hates the idea of fusion.
     
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  3. OLK Well-Known Member

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    Vegetto didn't fail against Buuhan, he accomplished his goal of getting absorbed
    The Zamasu thing isn't fair since they had to fight an immortal being. Both cases Vegetto wasn't dicking around and had a clear goal. He tried to kill Zamasu (though in the anime he did stunt on him a bit, in the manga he assumed he had more time than Zamasu)
    GT Gogeta had to purify negative energy or some shit and accomplished that
    Honestly the only one who completely fails every time is Gotenks, because he loves to dick around instead of fight seriously
     
  4. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member

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    This where the fuck this idea that vegito failed against buuhan he stomped him his ass to get him to absorbed him to save the others
    Zamasu immortality was the only that saved him hell even trunks asspull couldn't kill him
     
  5. Luiz Well-Known Member

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    Not his idea, then? So how did it come up?
     
  6. Fang Well-Known Member

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    Vegito is a different case and that's because he never intended to kill Super Buu, his whole plan from the start was to beat up Buu then allow himself to be absorbed so he could save Gohan and the others without having to kill them indirectly if he wiped out Buu first. Gotenks was actually tricked and outsmarted by Super Buu so he could be absorbed so that Buu could beat Ultimate Gohan, and Gogeta in GT had the same issue Vegito in Super had, being so powerful he overloaded the time limit of his fusion.

    Only reason why Gogeta beat Super Janemba in his movie was because it was a one-shot thing and the movie has the benefit of having to be resolved then and there. Both times also, Vegito completely dominated his opponents in canon with Super Buu (Gohan) getting creamed by Super Saiyan Vegito and Merged Zamasu getting smacked all over the place by Super Saiyan Blue Vegito.
     
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  7. Plague Punches People in the Face

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    Its worse in non-canon material. Toei doesn't even think he can beat a Saiyan in their Base form.

    but as for those other examples, against Buuhan he did what he was trying to. Against Zamasu, the guy was immortal.
     
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    (link: Tenseigan) kanzenshuu.com/translations/d…
     
  9. Prince Vegeta Get Over Here

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    Kanba is a badass i enjoyed watching him overpower vegito
     
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  10. El Hit NF SSBU World heavyweight Champion

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    Broly will make this worse :LOS
     
  11. Luiz Well-Known Member

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    He won't, because Gogeta won't be in the movie. :troll
     
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    Seems he didnt quite dislike the idea of Vegetto, which btw is better than a grown up gotenks.
     
  13. ~VK~ The King

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    Vegetto defused before he finished either of his objectives which was freeing everyone inside AND beating buu. He defused before he could do either. Defusing was never part of his plan. therefore it counts as an L. :mlpshrug

    Gotenks failed eitherway. :mlpshrug

    Zamasu was immortal..tough luck still an L :mlpshrug
     
  14. ~VK~ The King

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    Also you guys seem to be confused im not saying their outright weaker or they didn't stomp/dominate when they had the time im just saying these fuckers always never finish the job. Which is an L.
     
  15. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member

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    Vegito never knew about the time limit against buu
    And easily could killed him at any time

    And zamasu immortality required the god f the verse to nuke his ass along with the entire time line
     
  16. ~VK~ The King

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    Ok? How does that change what i said exactly?

    Again...tough...luck...still...an...L :LOS
     
  17. ~VK~ The King

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    If we take in namekian fusions the list grows bigger even :tupac

    Piccolo failed against freeza after fusing with nail

    He let imperfect cell escape after fusing with kami

    Then could only manage a stalemate against 17(would have eventually lost anyways seeing as that ^ (use bro) has infinite stamina) before getting royally rekt by a stronger imperfect cell :lmao
     
  18. Claudio Swiss Well-Known Member

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    Not really an L ^ (use bro)
     
  19. ChadtheGoat Well-Known Member

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    No,God Zamasu Win.













    Imortality,Onipresence and Power infinity.
     
  20. ~VK~ The King

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    It is if you're not the type of ^ (use bro) to make excuses :maybe
     
  21. Fang Well-Known Member

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    So what?

    Not relevant. Vegito tricked Buu into absorbing him, Goku and Vegeta were therefore able to free their kids, massively weaken Buu and then defeat him shortly afterwards. Vegito gets the win there.


    Are you channeling your Fluttershy or something? The retcon bullshit with the Potara Earrings is the only reason Vegito didn't kill Zamasu who he completely dominated in their fight with his God Impact.
     
  22. ~VK~ The King

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    Entirely relevant to the point im making. Vegetto fucked around and ran out of time before finishing either of his objectives. That's an L. The fact that goku and vegeta had to finish the job for him afterwards does not count towards him.

    I think the retcon was extremely bullshit but it is what it is. You or i can't change that. It's part of the story now. It's also part of the reason i even made this thread for the lols. Cause makes vegetto look even worse.
     
  23. Fang Well-Known Member

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    Vegito never fucked around with Zamasu. And he gets the W in both cases. :naruramen
     
  24. ~VK~ The King

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    and he still failed :LOS

    Nah :maybe
     
  25. Fang Well-Known Member

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    Yeah you are wrong on both cases.
     
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    If he hates it, why did he introduce it?
     
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