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Mature Bankai Toshiro vs. Lille Baro

Discussion in 'Bleach' started by shunsui1, Mar 8, 2018.

  1. shunsui1 Jacking in.

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    Fight to the death.

    He takes on each form of Lille. If he beats 1 form he automatically fights the next until just the birds remain.
     
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  2. ATastyMuffin Kanye's Biggest Fan

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    Beats all but second form Völlstandig Lille
     
  3. Daio Active Member

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    He should only beat Base Lille. Vollständig Lille and Vollständig: Second Form Lille are intangible and ignore durability.
     
  4. savior2005 Well-Known Member

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    How does one even beat second form Lillie (other than possessing far greater reiatsu then him and the obvious PIS bullshit?)
     
  5. ATastyMuffin Kanye's Biggest Fan

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    Yhwach, Ichigo, and Aizen demolish him for obvious reasons.

    Ichibē can't deal with him as easily as the above three, but dude was miles above Yhwach with Shikai/Bankai so I'd imagine the reiatsu difference alone pitches things in his favor.

    Yamamoto is difficult to call; Yhwach outright called him more powerful than any of his Sternritter, but it's hard to say if that power gap is enough to overcome hax. It's a toss-up, but I'm leaning to chicken man. And Gerard vs. Lille is just an immovable object vs. unstoppable force situation.
     
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  6. Keishin Well-Known Member

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    Gerard's hoffnung would still help him deal damage. It's similar to karamatsu shinjuu, antithesis and the balance.

    Need to go through the kido selection if there is something for Yamamoto to use for victory.
     
  7. Mei Well-Known Member

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    Hitsugay loses
     
  8. shunsui2929 Member

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    Toushiro destroys. He took on an elite who was soloing three near-RG Ichigo characters.
     
  9. Daio Active Member

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    Yhwach never stated Yamamoto was above all the Sternritter.
     
  10. Keishin Well-Known Member

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    "Only I am strong enough to handle your bankai"
     
  11. Daio Active Member

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    No. It was more along the lines of "Who else could handle the power of your Bankai?" "Yamamoto>All Sternritter" has been proven to be bullshit anyways.
     
  12. Divell King of Trolls

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    not necessarily but people need to remember all Elite Sterrittern got a power up.
     
  13. Millón Vasto Toyble has forsaken us!

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    not seeing how hitsugaya is gonna damage even vollstandig lille. He bassically get's X-axisced. Toshiro freezing spiritual energy is not the same as damaging an intangiable bieng.
     
  14. Arles Celes The Psychologist

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    It would mean that Yamamot's Bankai is more powerful than Almighty.

    Since Haschwalth could handle the power of Almighty and yet somehow he cannot handle Yama's Bankai?

    Especially when Yhwach himself by the time he fought Yama was still not strong enough to handle Almighty due to not recovering all of his power after his resurrection.

    Makes no sense.
     
  15. Keishin Well-Known Member

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    It's 50/50. Hasch has hax to deal with Yamamoto but Yhwach is small country level with the bankai so in DC it is stronger than what hasch can scale to.
     
  16. Arles Celes The Psychologist

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    Still makes no sense Yhwach's implication at that time that only he can handle Zanka no Tachi. Even weirder that he never ever used it.

    Anyway Yama with his Sun Armor is untouchable unless someone's haxxx and reiatsu is powerful enough to overpower said armor.

    If Hash is as powerful or more powerful then Balance should nullify said armor like it did with Cang Du's Iron. If not then Hash can only hope that Yama's attack won't kill him outright so he can "return" the damage to Yama.

    Other Sternritter it might wary but...I guess unless Gerard's Miracle requires some preparation or he just chose not to use against the RG(same like Lille) in the first round then he might(in theory) become more and more powerful by being destroyed till he can overpower Bankai Yama. We saw him recover from both being cut in half and crushed to pieces of ice so I guess he might survive being turned into a charred skeleton or cut in half like Fake Yhwach.

    Lille can either pierce through Yama's Sun Armor via X-axis or he needs to power up till he can. Dunno if X-Axis can work on anyone regardless of the strength of reiatsu. Same with intagibility. If it cannot then Lille's best shot is his Chicken form which should be easily strong enough for that. Another matter if at that point he can truly only be hurt by weapons that can hurt divine beings or just being powerful enough can cut it too. Hard to measure guy.

    Yama himself does not have some invincible durability as Yhwach's Reishi sword did easily cut him in half without Yhwach powering with Almighty. So if a Sternritter is powerful enough to overpower Yama's Sun Armor then he can most likely deliver a lethal blow at the same time. Haschwalth could cut in two Ichigo's blade with ease so even he got an impressive destructive power even if not covering a huge area.
     
  17. Keishin Well-Known Member

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    The bankai is not Yhwachs strongest weapon. When he became the Soul King he could have used sklaverei to absorb the entire soul society.
     
  18. Ghost Of The Uchiha Well-Known Member

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    Wins all but Second Vollstanding.
     
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