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Meruem and Guards vs. The Black Whale Gauntlet

Discussion in 'Hunter x Hunter' started by Intus Legere, Nov 19, 2018.

  1. Intus Legere ̣#TeamHisoka

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    Meruem and the Royal Guards, instead of landing on East Goruto, landed on the Black Whale. Meruem is decided to make the Black Whale his aquatic fortress, and for that, he's going to eliminate anyone who can oppose him, starting from the top deck all the way to the bottom deck.

    Everyone is in character
    Pre Rose Meruem and Royal Guards
    Black Whale characters have their current powers, as of chapter 389
    Hisoka is in the 5th Deck, for the sake of discussion




    First Tier: 800 soldiers are there, as well as Royals (including Princes, King and Queens) and Bodyguards (including Kurapika, Bisky, Hanzo, Izunavi, Melody, etc.). Beyond Netero is in a separate in the cells, guarded by Saiyu, Saccho and Kanzai; Benjamin and Camilla are also in cells.

    Second Tier: 600 soldiers.

    Third Tier: 200 soldiers, Morena (Heil-Li mafia) and her posse, 8 Zodiacs (Cheadle, Botobai, Mizai, Gel, Cluck, Pyon and Leorio) 2 Spiders (Illumi and Kalluto Zoldyck).

    Fourth Tier: 200 soldiers, Xi-Yu mafia and grunts, 3 Spiders (Chrollo, Bono, Shizuku).

    Fifth Tier: 200 soldiers, Cha-R mafia and grunts, 5 Spiders (Feitan, Phinks, Nobu, Machi, Franklin) and FINAL BOSS Hisoka.



    Could Meruem and his posse clear the ship? How do you see this scenario playing out?
     
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    Without Komugi screwing up his morals he starts eating everyone and gains untold powers. Ofc we don't know what Beyond can do, so who knows.
     
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    There are many ways it could go but it will stay the same with Meruem and the Royal Guards clearing the ship. The Royal Guard will not leave Meruem alone which means that you will have to face a God tier character that is being accompanied by three top tiers. It doesn’t matter if Beyond Netero is stronger than his father because the Royal Guard will beat him together especially with Meruem. No one in the Black Whale would be prepared for such strong opponents. Hell I bet the aura of all four of them is going to scare the crap out of most of the people in the ship so there won’t be that much of a fight. It would take long simply because of the size of the black whale. Neferpitou and Shaiopouf would use their en to locate enemies and Youpi if he somehow gets cornered will simply use his rage blast that would end up destroying large parts of the ship causing chaos. This situation is simply too favorable for the Ants.
     
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    Unless Meruem himself demands that they don't interfere in his fights, which might happen. Actually, Meruem tried to kill Pitou for his suggestion that he didn't know how to use Gyo, and was pretty fond of the idea of duels, and he might try to kill his own guards for the suggestion that he isn't able to win alone against some particular threat.

    As I see it: Meruem and the Royal Guards land, killing soldiers, causing ruckus, all princes and bodyguards will be on full alert, they will feel the ridiculous aura, so they will have some time to prepare. Meruem could probably kill every prince and their bodyguards even though there is some risk: some of them have dangerous powers, like Halkenburg's mind transfer, Camilla's Million Lives Cat, and quite a few mind manipulation abilities -- and they won't have the surprise factor here.

    To be honest, I consider the Kakin Royals more of a risk to Meruem than anything else.
     
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    Also, If Meruem kills all the princes on the first deck... then he'd have to find and fight the Zodiacs and Beyond. Supposing the Zodiacs join forces with Beyond, they might have a good chance against Meruem alone... maybe. Even if the RG doesn't interfere initially, once the Zodiacs start gaining an upper hand, they would jump in to protect Meruem. I don't see the ants losing there, but I don't think they'd gang on the enemies either because of Meruem's personality.
     
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    The Zodiacs wouldn’t be that Much of a factor since they aren’t at Netero’s level. It would be Meruem vs three zodiacs and Beyond which means unless Beyond is at the same level as his father he won’t make of a difference and they get killed instantly unless you think the zodiacs can even see the movements of Netero’s Hatsu because if they could they would be better than Neferpitou.
     
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    In combination, with preparation time and some use of malice? Sure the Zodiacs can do something. For instance: Saiyu's monkeys can cripple his opponets pretty hard. If Meruem was blind against Netero, it would be at best a stalemate.



    Also, even though he's not there, Mizai's ability seems to be ridiculously powerful as well, and might catch the four at once. IIRC, he's with Illumi, of all people.
     
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    The problem would be that Saiyu wouldn’t be able to even hit Meruem with his god tier speed or is Saiyu at the same level of speed as Netero?
     
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    Cheetu. You don't need speed if you have a plan.

    Again, Mizai has a pretty good ability for that situation. If someone with a power similar to his (that is, an ability that can buy some time) was there and he bought 2 seconds, Saiyu would earn a free hit on them. I don't think it is as simple as "they don't have the speed to match Meruem."
     
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    You’re comparing Cheetu who lost to his stupidity to Meruem? Do you think Meruem is a moron. But Mizai isn’t there and will he be able to react to Meruem anyway? You make it seem that Meruem is going to stand there and simply do nothing as everyone else tries their attacks. This a Meruem who didn’t meet to Komugi who would kill a nen user with no thought and eat them. You’re really underestimating not only Meruem but Netero as well.
     
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    It appears Mereum is underrated or something if people think that the zodiacs will be able to handle Meruem easily. Do people also think that the phantom troupe can beat Meruem easily as well? I guess Netero was a moron for looking for an opponent that can beat him when he could simply just fight the zodiacs.
     
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    Wait you’re the one who made the Kurapika vs Netero thread. This all makes sense now.
     
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    Cheetu didn't lose to stupidity, he lost because he thought speed was what really mattered, which is your argument. There are ways to beat speedsters. Of course beating Meruem isn't as simple as beating Cheetu, nor do I think that the Zodiacs+Beyond stand a good chance to beat Meruem... but nen battles aren't as simple as "Meruem speedblitzes" especially when you're dealing with fighter of the Zodiacs' caliber.

    You don't need to react if you have a plan to act instead. They know someone is coming for them.

    I don't. But in truth, all that it would take to beat Meruem is Meleoron's God's Accomplice, Baise's Instant Lover and a good opportunity. Nen battles aren't all about who's faster.


    Nope. Not easily at least. But who knows what trump cards the Spider still has. Chances aren't good, but they might pull off a win.
     
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    That's a low blow. It's an old thread, I was young and foolish.
     
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    But they don’t know how strong the opponent even is. You’re acting like someone like Meruem is a common occurrence. There’s no way Mizai would even think that there would be someone who’s stronger than even Netero going after them. You’re really taking Morel’s stance on nen battles to heart when in the same arc it was shown that it meant nothing for Meruem.
     
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    How can a nen user not notice how strong Meruem is? Even if you don't consider that they can communicate through phones and the like, they will know about the huge threat that just entered the scene.

    Pouf activated his en and people shat bricks. Kaito touched Pitou's from 2km away and he knew he was in grave danger. Netero from a glance, more than 2 km away from Pitou, wondered to himself that Pitou was stronger than himself. Killua instantly run away once he sensed Zero Hand aura. People far away could feel Halkenburg and his guards gigantic aura.

    If Meruem and the Royal Guard attacks the ship and the princes, nen users will sense the huge threat and take precautions.
     
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    All I know is that the Black Whale would sink. LOL
     
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    But what precautions would they take? You make it sound easy. As if everyone has some type of plan to handle monsters like the ants.
     
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    No one in the Black Whale can take on Royal Guards talk less Mereum. We don't know beyond's strength yet so we can't assume he is as strong as his father. I mean pitou can literally blitz almost everyone there. The only argument we can make for the princes is the abilities of their nen beasts which will prove to be difficult for the RGs
     
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    Meruem and the RG slaughter everyone on the ship and reach an insane level of power and experience after its all over. There's literally no one on that ship that can remotely even challenge or stop the RG or Meruem they are just way too powerful for them.
     
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    Ging will at least score some damages on Meruem before being snuffed out like an ant. Same goes for Beyond.

    Terrorsandwich and Benjamin get eaten alive.

    Kurapika and Hisoka become wall painting.

    Then Melody starts playing music and Meruem falls in love with her. They live happily ever after on the Dark Continent.

    A much better ending than the original Chimaera Ants arc.
     
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    Tserri solos :LOS
     
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    No idea if Ging is there, but if he is, chances are that Pariston is also there. Something tells me that Pariston, despite being "weak", must have some screwed up terribly dangerous hatsu.


    Meruem could probably try to beat Melody in a guitar solo or try to beat Basho in a rap battle.
     
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    Take Meruem out of the equation, and I actually think the black whale team stomps on the guards given the masssive variety of nen and hatsu's and the sheer number of nen masters on board.. But with Meruem its a completely different ball game. He can literally adapt to 99% of the things that'll get thrown at him and he'll stomp the majority if he's going straight for the kill
     
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    Why start on the top deck? That's where the strongest nen users are at, while the lowest floor is basically controlled by low level mafia. If the ants start at the top floor, he's gonna get dog piled. Beyond's gonna come out of his cell to test his power against a DC beast and since Beyond is stronger than his dad, Mereuem is most likely gonna lose. For the RG, the zodiacs can handle them. The cow zodiac uses his red card prison and the monkey zodiac makes all the RG blind, deaf, and dumb. Though I guess Pitou's and Pouf's En field can give them back their senses, but the strongest RG, Youpi, won't be able to fight back.
     
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    You think Beyond is stronger than Netero or Meruem?
     
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    He wouldn't be confident in taking on the Dark Continent again if he wasn't at least as strong as Papa Netero I'd say.
     
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    There's a huge gap between Netero and Meruem though. Even if Beyond was 3 times stronger than Netero, I'd have my doubts he could win. In my opinion, through sheer strength, one can do very little against Meruem.
     
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    Only Ging, Beyond, and Botobai can even be relevant.

    Pitou would solo if those weren't there.
     
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