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Metro Man (Megamind) vs Raiden (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance)

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by Drsoe08, Jul 9, 2018.

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    Metro Man




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    From what I remember Metro Man is ungodly fast (probably MFTL), but not as proportionally strong.

    Raiden is Town Level - Small City Level with his HF Blade

    Raiden can't land any attack on Metro Man and Metro Man isn't strong enough to kill Raiden.
     
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    Metro Man should be able to incapacitate him swiftly
     
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    He is a Superman clone....more then enough to deal with Raiden
     
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    He's got a massive speed advantage, but strength-wise what has he done that can match what Raiden did here ? Raiden could tank building level blows.
     
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    Tighten lifting up a skyscraper and tossing it across a city is definitely better than that. Tighten is nothing to Metro Man
     
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    Metal Gear Excelsus made a giant crater in the ground that yielded small town level and Raiden scales to Excelsus (he tore one of Excelsus's own arms off and directly overpowered it in a sword battle with said arm).

    A character with Town Level strength and durability won't receive damage from someone who can just mess with skyscrapers at best.
     
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    well if you are confident in that then what stops Metro Man from simply dicing him up with his own sword since you are inclined to believe he is not that strong.
     
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    Well if you want to bring calcs into this, then I’m almost certain that the kinetic energy needed to launch a fucking skyscraper across the city is going to yield much higher results

    And that’s from someone who’d rather flee the city than fight Metro Man straight up
     
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    If you can get someone to calc it go ahead.
     
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    With high frequency blades while they concentrate your force they can’t hurt someone multiple tiers above you (Metroman is likely large building level, which is below Multi-City Block Level, and Town Level).

    Armstrong wasn’t even an entire tier above Raiden (just somewhat higher in strength) but he could still tank Raiden’s normal HF Blade slashes and break the sword like a twig with his nanomachines. So Raiden ended up needing a much higher quality HF blade to actually defeat him (Sam’s Murasama).
     
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    Except Raiden isn’t multiple tiers above him, or even stronger than him in the first place. Metro Man could solo the verse. Only thing stopping this from being an easy win for him is the fact that BFR is banned
     
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    Get someone to calc the skyscraper feat then. I don't see how messing with a skyscraper is not just large building level.

    Heck since as I believe OneSimpleAnime mentioned in the All Might vs Senator Armstrong thread, Raiden's HF Sword provides a +1 to his DC making him "at least town to small city level" Raiden may be even more durable than i've mentioned so far. Armstrong was strong and durable enough to break Raiden's regular HF Sword and Raiden was durable enough to take many punches from Armstrong and survive. So Raiden would have small city level durability from that.

    And if Raiden's that durable than I would really need some proof Metro Man is much higher than building level with that feat from Tighten that hasn't been calced. Since otherwise Metroman may just break his fists on Raiden's body.
     
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    Wow you need to stop relying solely on calcs. They’re alright to use once in a while but at the end of the day it’s just fan made stuff
     
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    If you just eyeball stuff though how does that solve anything? It just becomes two guys arguing over which thing looks more impressive which can devolve pretty quickly.

    I could argue suplexing a gigantic spider mech is more impressive than tossing a skyscraper since the spider mech is a lot denser (packed with machinery) and a skyscraper has a bunch of empty space due to rooms meant for people to move through.

    Calcs aren’t meant to be used as a crutch, yeah but when there’s no other proper means of quantifying stuff that’s isn’t just people arguing which looks more impressive I don’t see a reason not to use it as a tool since it’s less subjective than eyeballing.
     
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    Throwing a skyscraper is easily MCB at the very least, deoending on size and speed it could be as much as city level even.
     
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    It doesn't matter what level the skyscraper calc ends up being because a skyscraper weighs more than Raiden and Metroman can hence just throw Raiden into the sun.

    Alternatively consider that Metroman is fast enough to land literally millions if not billions of punches on Raiden before Raiden is even aware the fight has started, so Metroman would have to be millions of times weaker than Raiden to not just oneshot him, which you'd have a lot of trouble arguing.
     
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    The feat looks MCB tbh.

    Not to mention that Tighten is a poor man's Metro Man(Confirmed by the fact that while Metro Man had speed to literally blitz the entire city and a fucking LS Laser, Tighten was getting tagged by fucking Megamind using a jetpack or some shit).
     
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    This doesn't actually work, if something is a million times tougher than you, than you're just gonna break your fists when trying to punch them real fast. It's like if you tried to hit a thick concrete wall repeatedly, your fists are gonna take more damage than the wall since kinetic energy works both ways.
     
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    Isn't this damage stacking? Pretty sure that wasn't accepted even for Dio's timestop where the damage hits you all at once, let alone a FTL character just punching over and over. If Metroman has building level DC (or MCB+ if that's accepted), throwing millions of punches won't suddenly make them small city level.
     
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    Metro Man is at least multi city block level+ and likely FTL+

    end of game Raiden ranges from small town level+ up to small city level

    with speed equal

    Raiden powerbombs him
     
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    Isn't MM hilariously faster than raiden dude speed stopped and lived a day of life in between a second.

    Raiden can only get the better in this fight with speed equal.
     
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    Metro Man throws him into outer space
     
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    Speed Equal is the only way Raiden gets a fair fight

    He’s basically a statue compared to Metro Man. The dude can use every weapon Raiden has against him.
     
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    Then he throws objects since he's so fast it'll go past the absorption rate and also have the kinetic energy to harm Raiden.
    Well, depends on whose perceptive you ask that from. It'll be like it's small city level when it isn't. Speed on that level is practically an exotic power.
    Pretty much.
     
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