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MF Whitebeard vs Big Mom

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by xmysticgohanx, Jun 7, 2019.

  1. Duhul10 Troll killer

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    Big mom high-very high diff depending on how fast will WBs heart attacks appear.
     
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  2. Sanguíne Symphony Yonko

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    Big Mom extreme diff
     
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  3. Mad Scientist Skyclad Observer

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    When has BM demonstrated she can defend against vibrations that travel through every pore of her skin and every inner organ including the lungs and brain?

    Why is her defence portrayed as above a devil fruit that was considered able to destroy the whole world?

    Why isn't the fact that she can't tag him considered?

    Why can't he spam his move to some degree?

    Why isn't WB moving with a hole in his chest considered - how much would that scale him - wouldn't he be able to outlast as well?

    Napolean is countered because it's not in her character to unleash that straightaway. Her shockwaves are hard countered by Shirohige's sky-distorting haki and sea-splitting shockwaves.

    What about Whitebeard's supreme status even as old?

    How many heart attacks did he canonically claim, under what circumstances were they?
     
  4. Duhul10 Troll killer

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    What do you mean she can't tag him ? Multiple fodders did it, while BM blitzed Queen.
    She is said to have unbreakable skin. She has no scars on her body. His supreme status does not include his heart attacks and him being blitzed by Squardo.
     
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    Name me 1 fodder who tagged a serious, battle-minded, full-health Whitebeard.

    Her skin was portrayed as piercable by Brook. Besides, that argument doesn't counter the air waves of the gura gura no mi that would travel through her brain, her eyes, her loud mouth which she constantly yaps and screams with.

    What heart attacks? Where? When? What context? During the WA?
     
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    The undisputed WSM vs the unofficial WSW :hmm

    I'll go with the former. Very high diff.
     
  7. Duhul10 Troll killer

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    WB was serious and battle-minded. He just could not react to Squardo. Full health ? I have just told you that I am not talking about a full health WB. What would the airwaves do to her ? What did those airwaves do to Blackbeard ?

    Chapter 568, page 8, for the heart attack.
     
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    Whitebeard high difficulty.
     
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    Nope. Completely skewed.

    Whitebeard wasn't battle-minded against Squardo. It's like if Zoro attacked Luffy unexpectedly out of nowhere, how's he going to be able to react? What you're doing is taking an instance where NOT ONLY did a fodder have literally minimal impact upon Whitebeard but also a situation where that was completely unexpected - it's not a situation where he was standing in front of him and Whitebeard could see him - just as how Whitebeard, in this battle, would be able to see Charlotte Linlin.

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    How did that have minimal impact? Compare it to this.

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    What a terrible example you provided.

    What did those airwaves do to blackbeard? You tell me. I'll tell you what those air waves did to Marineford. It broke it, Whitebeard's clash rendered the sky to split in half and he turned waves into tsunamis.

    Not only is Whitebeard a massive tank, reputed to be world's strongest man alive, but you haven't even responded to my other points. Big Mom with her yapping mouth gets DESTROYED at a fair distance and can NEVER tag Whitebeard unless she uses full-clad Haki and even then, Whitebeard clashed with Shanks so I don't see Charlotte Linlin winning this both feat-wise and portrayal-wise.

    Like multiple posters have already stated, the shockwave distortions of his fruit powers that the formidable Blackbeard stole would CRUSH Linlin's spirit, ironically so. It would render her Sun and Cloud to dissipate and die, and it would render Napolean to fly off her head. If she does decide to bring that out early on in the match, it would get hardcountered by Whitebeard's Marineford-shattering blasts - and even Akainu failed to beat Whitebeard in CQC despite his old age.

    Whitebeard has insane durability and stamina. Linlin would get destroyed.

    Whitebeard wins this high-diff at most.
     
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    So you ignore his sudden heart attacks. Ok. How the hell can't she tag him when the man was tagged by multiple fodders during the war, while she blitzes commander level opponents.
    Destroying Marineford ? What does that have to do with Big Mom and her unpierceable skin ?
    "Even Akainu"... Linlin in cqc is more of a beast than Akainu due to her sheer strength and unbreakable body.
    There are way more to say. Basically your whole point is: it doesn't matter that WB is a dying old man with sudden heart attacks that gets easily tagged by fodders, he wins because he has DC and because he has a title ( it doesn't matter if the title was available when he was healthy ).
    Linlin wins. The difficulty varies depending on how fast WB begins to show his sickness.

    And lolz at the stamina part. The man was on his knees after a couple of attacks. The likes of Akainu fight for 10 days.
     
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    And you ignore informing me of when this happened.

    This question you're asking does not refute my point. Read what I said in regards to her weaknesses.

    What I'm saying is that someone who's comparably smaller (and thus you'd think more agile) than WB got owned despite WB's fatigue.

    Nope. You haven't demonstrated at all that he gets heart attacks. When? Where? How often? How did it impact him? What context?

    I'll accept that if you can refute all of my points and also explain how she tags him, which you haven't demonstrated in the least.

    Akainu fought against one opponent during which they both could afford to hide etc. That's a terrible example. And how was he on his knees after a couple of attacks? That's almost a blatant lie. Let's look at what Oda has to say about this.


     
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    I gave you the chapter and the page for the heart attack. It came all of a sudden. Even if BM can't overpower him, she will outlast him
     
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  13. Don King Eternal Pirate King

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    In sleep WB can defend himself from Ace attacks and Marco stated that even if it comes from a crewmate/close friend he can react to it but his health is in the state where he cannot do it anymore.
     
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  14. xmysticgohanx Zoro > Law

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    Will BM turn skinny??????????????
     
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    WB mid diffs and if Mom loses weight he stomps.
     
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    That is a good question. However, we still have to see whether her crysis can also appear during a serious 1 vs 1 fight. I mean she is definitely capable of focusing on a fight, otherwise she wouldn't be in a position of such power and influence.
     
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    Oldbeard take this highdiff but if we are talking about wedding cake Meme then a solid one shot in WB favor :DankPepe
     
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    You must be the real mad monk.

    Swear we had a user by that name couple years back?
     
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    What you mean by real mad monk?

    I just barely join this forum couple days ago that user you're refering to is obviously not me
     
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    Might have been Mad D Monk lol.

    Was just unsure how two users could have the same username.
     
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    Whitebeard extreme diff
     
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    Whitebeard wins it
     
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    Big Mam wins that match up, Big Mam has more impressive defensive and physical strength than that version of Whitebeard and should have superior Haki to that version of Whitebeard :p
     
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    He was humiliated by squardo, just saying.. aniway BM very high diff
     
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    No he wasn't. He tanked his attack,unlike BM who lost her memory after the fall. King's attack was many times more effective.
     
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    If falling on her head made her lose her memories, a quake punch to the head will make her lose her life.
     
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    ???
     
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    After King's attack she fell and lost her memory. This is far more humiliating than letting you comrade backstab you and enduring that attack without much problems.
     
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    Not really when your comrade is a fodder.
     
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