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Minato Vs Onoki, who is faster?

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Hussain, Sep 16, 2018.

Which one is faster?

  1. Onoki is faster/has better reaction, obviously.

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  2. Minato is faster/has better reaction

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  3. they are about the same.

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  1. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    So, we have Onoki being able to react well with A's speed
    to change 2 different jutsu

    from this jutsu


    to this



    compared to Onoki who did react in time to make the Raikage's punch more powerful
    can Minato replicate Onoki's feat and think "FTG" and activate it on time? :yondaime
     
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  2. Crimson Flam3s Rampage Sage

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    Onoki is obviously >>> Minato
     
  3. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    Well, based on pure feats, Minato reacted and activated FTG in time against Gai's 5th Sekizou which is way faster than lightened A's fastest Shunshin. Therefore, he should have no trouble dodging him taking his high end feat into account.

    If you want a more logical explenation, Onoki didn't react but rather Raikage lowered his speed to allow the Tsuchikage to weighten his punch in the right moment once he was point blank in front of Susano'o.
     
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  4. Kai R I N N I N G Retired Staff

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    No, no he can't. Minato's reflexes are on par with Base A's; He's able to react to A's max speed but not once A is lightened and speed is ramped another level.

    This is literally the same logic Kakashi fans use to justify Kamui GG.
     
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  5. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    If this is a fanfic logic, then Onoki's feat is clearly an outlier as well.
     
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  6. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    I know, but people get extremely salty about Minato's feats. So, I considered not mention that here. Otherwise, we would have another Dead-Sea amount of salt in the thread. :catshrug

    Ok, just vote for the first option. :catsadfeels
    Want to see the percentage at the end. :catshrug
     
  7. Sage light Well-Known Member

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    Oonoki has better reactions, given his feats against Madara.

    Minato's Base Raikage-above reflexes, and reaction speeds are outlier, considering Juubi Jins are out of that level.

    Anything that goes against established facts is an outlier, Minato's case being one.
     
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  8. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    Ok, so far @Sage light & @Kai are on the opinion that Onoki is faster than Minato and has a better reaction.


    Can anyone do some tagging to other people. I couldn't really bother. :skully

    @Shark
    I guess I wanna see your opinion. :mikebatman
    Who is faster Onoki or Minato. :catdance
     
  9. Gianfi Well-Known Member

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    Minato wrecks
     
  10. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    Vote please. thank you. :blobblush
     
  11. kayz Well-Known Member

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  12. The Death & The Strawberry Serene Grace

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    Seriously

    Minato has better reactions then Onoki obviously, but gets blitzed by lighten Ay

    Using the 8 gate feat is laughable and means you think Gaara, Kakashi and Lee are reflective enough to physically or even mentally percieve Guy :)
     
  13. kayz Well-Known Member

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    @Hussain the question is, did Onoki lighten V1 or V2 Ay? And if it's V1, is this lightened V1 faster than a V2?
     
  14. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    No, it just means you don't know how to read. :)
    you think you are clever and noticed things that were not addressed in the manga, but you are not. :)



    Anyway, just vote for the first option. :catshrug


    That does not add up. Since Onoki reacted in time to change the jutsu and make A stronger.
    Where Minato on your opinion can't do that. Which means, Onoki is faster/has a better reaction.

    You can't have it both ways. :catshrug
     
  15. Lord Valgaav Let the bodies hit the floor

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    Minato is still faster. Fighting Jubito is a greater feat than reacting to lightened Ei.
     
  16. Kai R I N N I N G Retired Staff

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    He's right. Onoki doesn't need to do anything after making A lighter here. He made A heavier again to blow a hole in Madara's Susanoo which was not necessary when he swatted Mu away.

    Unless you're arguing Minato is as durable as Susanoo, Onoki doesn't need to react to anything after lightening the Raikage's weight.
     
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  17. Mori Jin Well-Known Member

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    Minato is faster. FTG > V2 lightened Raikage.
     
  18. King1 Pretty Flacko

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    There is no way ohnoki is faster than minato physically and he is inferior to minato in reaction speed, if ohnoki reacted with A4 then minato can too
     
  19. Android Keep it simple

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    Kishimoto sometimes ignores the characters limits in order to perform a team effort combinations.

    A classic example: Lee being able to toss a Kunai, Gaara being able to lift his sand up (something Minato had nothing to do with because all he did was make sure that Gaara's sand was close enough) and Kakashi using Kamui, all before Gai could finish his last and fastest Sekizo air cannon.

    Don't give me that "Gai slow down BS".

    This is why people need to stop over-analysing every freaking thing that happens on panel, when the author himself probably doesn't even put that much thoughts into it.

    What you should do is take Onoki's feat with a grain of salt, because in a fighting situation there's no way in the hell Onoki could react to Lightened Raikage, not when Madara with the highest level of ocular precog had issues following his speed.

    And Minato is and will always be >>>> Onoki in reflexes. You have to be a fool to believe otherwise.
     
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  20. Android Keep it simple

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    I'm not sure what you mean by fighting Jubito.

    The only time Minato attacked Obito, he got his arm ripped off and got a TSB attached to his shoulder ready to blow him up to ashes.
     
  21. Shark 鮫仙

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    In terms of speed/reactions: Kisame = Minato >>>> Onoki :mikebatman
     
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  22. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    No one cares what he needs to do or not

    I am taking about his feat of making the raikages punch stronger :)

    Or do u think the page listed in the OP is a fan art? :doge
     
  23. The Death & The Strawberry Serene Grace

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    At this point I dont even bother trying to argue against it

    If manga feats and potrayal or even the events surrounding it doesn't make that feat being an outlier obvious then me breaking it down won't change anything

    :tiredpepe
     
  24. Lord Valgaav Let the bodies hit the floor

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    Being able to react to his attacks in general is what makes it more impressive. Him along with the Senju brothers, EMS Sasuke, and Bijuu Naruto have enough reactions to face a lightened Ei.
     
  25. Hussain Well-Known Member

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    There is an obvious difference between "Kishi did not much emphasis on something and therefore we shouldn't think too much into it."
    and between "he did put thought into it, but we don't want to accept it"

    The first example:
    Gai's punches not breaking through Asspulldara's body, but Black Zetsu's hand going through it like nothing.
    Kishi never addressed this, so sure, it does not need too much thinking put into it.

    Second example:
    Kishi did acknowledge the speed issue and spent some pages for the solution. Had Kishi not cared about it, he would have had
    Lee, in base, throwing that Kunai and called it a day. It's not like Lee did anything else after all. So, why did Kishi care to make Lee
    open the 6 Gates?


    If we were to go with your approach, then we might as well dismiss all feats as well. Granted, feats are useless at the end of the day
    since what will happen is what the plot require regardless of all feats and hype, but I guess for the sake of the NBD. :catshrug
     
  26. Android Keep it simple

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    Can you give me an example of base Minato reacting to JJ Obito ?
     
  27. Lord Valgaav Let the bodies hit the floor

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    Not base, I was talking about BM.
     
  28. Android Keep it simple

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    Like I said. It's obvious that Minato has better reflexes than Onoki. And it's obvious that Onoki can't react to Lightened Raikage speed of he was facing said speed. That's how they are portrayed.
    Naruto got his Tenketsu point blocked by Himawari ---> KO'ed for a day.
    Tired base Naruto got his Tenketsu point hit smack in the middle by Momoshiki ---> he shrugs it off.

    Surely you don't think Himawari hits harder than Momoshiki or that her Byakugan can see better than his do you ? I'll let you figure out the reason.

    Hashirama's Gracious Deity Gates tanked the explosion of the Jubi's TBB without a scratch, but they got obliterated by Tobirama's GKF. I care anyone to say that GKF is stronger than the Jubi's super charged TBB.


    If the Manga truly cared about consistency, Onoki's feat wouldn't exist. Do I care about feats ? Yes I do. To an extent. I care and use and support the usage of the most consistent feats that match the characters abilities, but when something obviously exists in the realm of outliers, it's better not to take it too seriously.
     
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    how are you sure that wasn't just a well timed attack?
     
  30. Android Keep it simple

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    And what attacks from JJ Obito did BM Minato react to ?
     
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