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Minato vs Prime Hanzo: Hype Battle

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Bookworm, Jun 14, 2018.

  1. Bookworm Well-Known Member

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    Who's hype was greater? and who would win based on Hype? :amuse
     
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    They’re on the same general level imo.
     
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    Very close, not enough information to definitively separate them.

    Taking into account overall portrayal, I would say Minato by a hair by virtue of having a canon win against another peer of the duo in Obito.

    Going purely by statements, it is interesting that Jiraiya considered the possibility of Madara being responsible for everything, yet still didn’t believe Hanzo could be defeated by Akatsuki leader. Jiraiya of course doesn’t know how strong Madara was, but still must know that Madara is unusually strong even compared to the Kage.
     
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    About on the same level really.
     
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    Minato would win both battles.
    Hanzo seems to focus heavily on speed and one strike with his poison. Minato's basically a faster and better version of Hanzo. Minato's hype of being a prophecy child (as with naruto and nagato) and a generation genius eclipses Hanzo's hype.
     
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    I'd say Hanzo for having better portrayal
     
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    Minato the "unsurpassable", "rare genius", that is the "fastest shinobi ever", whom multiple countries had flee on sight orders against, shit stomps with hype.
     
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    On the otherhand we have a shinobi sm jirayia considered undefeatable and even nagato thought wouldn't be defeated if he hadn't gone into depression...though nagato thought he couldnt defeat jirayia if he didnt keep his secret...
     
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    TBF, Jiraiya proceed to go on and engage the same akatsuki leader despite knowing that hanzo had lost. Jiraiya was also confident he could take out both Itachi and Kisame at the same time.
     
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    Jiraiya didn’t believe that Hanzo was defeated by a single man.
     
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    I'd argue, Hanzo absolutely demolishes Minato, in the Hype-Department, likely, given his Hype-Statements, which far shames, anything bestowed even near the likes of Minato.

    Though, battle-wise, he edge's it, more time's than not, given Hanzo's lack of feats, but a good argument can be made for latter, if take into consideration, latter crushed the head-area, of a powerful Meitou-Wielder such as Mifune, who matched MS Sasuke, rather effortlessly, who's probably the most elitest, skilled, efficient swordsman in the Manga, likely. He could bestow the exact skull-splattering, to Minato, likely, if he tries CQC/Tag, utilizing FTG's Marking. Best move, I'd argue, would be utilizing Frog Summons, rather than point-less one-sided, CQC where Minato is not a match for. Frog-Song/Frog-Call, end's him, likely.
     
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    But the dude he interrogated stated that Pain singlehandledy ended the war and defeated Hanzo+hanzo's people. Hard to believe yes, but it left Jiraiya thinking how strong Pain is. Check out the scan if you have a chance, I think that's how it was implied
     
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    Eh. Kinda.


    He was specifically surprised someone could do it alone.

    And it was Pain, not Nagato that Hanzo and Jiraiya fought.
     
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    Compare being suprised some one could beat a guy alone to

    A dude being with his next Kage and his Perfect Jinchuriki brother and STILL knowing they should get the fuck out of there.

    Or that guy saying that Iwa shinobi know to run when they see him.
     
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    I used to think Prime Hanzo stomped the shit outta Minato in hype yet...

    On one hand, Jiraiya found it hard to swallow that one man could best Hanzo. On the other, he didn't even bother entering SM before confronting Hanzo's killer.

    Considering Jiraiya bragged how Minato was the GOAT every chance he got, I highly doubt Jman thought he could defeat his favorite pupil w/ SM, much less w/o it.

    I'm on the fence.:oldshrug
     
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    Hence me saying their hype pretty much on the same level.
     
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    The hype was context-facaded, Minato's was. Speed is a major component of the repertoire of the character, though, most facade it's original meaning to make the character into a speed-demon, more than likely, he never was.

    Databook state the character was known as the fastest in the era of the 4th World-War, due to the ironic-fact, the FTG was considered physical-speed. The character was not the not the faster individual, physical-speed terms, likely.

    The Genius-ness of the character, is another part of the context being facaded. No one could surpass the guy in terms of Decade-Only Geniusness, was what the Raikage originally meant, cause, thier are Geniuses of a Century, as Itachi, and Geniuses of Many-Decades, as Orochimaru. The fact, Hokage Leadership was passed onto latter, prove the original context, on what the Raikage spoke.

    Flee-On Sight order, was an instruction for the the lower legion of Ninja, who were the major accumulation, of the percentage of the World-War Battalions. One cannot fade the Mark, nor could expect the trajectory, of certain warper's revelation. The strategy employed through, the FTG, was not the type, the normal shinobi, could barely combat. The hype was endowned, not because of the character's great-power, but rather due to the Nature Of the FTG. The following hype was endowned context, the moment, the character arc foe, Kumo's Leaders, overcame plus, almost murdered the character, through usage of not-so-advanced-weapon, as the Sword, former used VS the character.

    Whereas, the same cannot be spoken for Hanzo. The dude was pictured as immune to loss, from one person, on-par on Pain. Could've over-come someone such as Pain, who was the major force of reckoning after the 4th World-War, plus, had the respect of "Invincible" from the Members of the Organization, and Obito, who's probable the most haxxest dude, residing at the period. Jiraiya, believed amount of strength, was insignificant or worth-less before the dude, judged from the expression the character put forth, when the above knowledge, had been proven. Refused to trust the dude, as Jiraiya was, at the information of the character's death is a type of feature, which surpass any type of feature, former dude have to offer.

    Battle-Standard, the outcome'd be more eloquent with former's victory.

    The dude offer more, in the terms of portrayal, though.
     
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    Minato shits on his mouth. :catshrug

    Hanzo can go play with Mifune. :lmao
     
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    Minato Unsurpassable , fastest man in the verse in his era , Jiraiya wanted Naruto to surpass Minato
    When Naruto fought pain , Minato labeled Obito as far more dangerous oppoenet whom he defeated under one of the worse situations and drew with the strongest bijju
    Also minato had such a track record that anyone who faced him were told to flee on sight
     
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    Hanzo had 2 battles, both of which he got stomped. :mjlol


    he was just a "hype-tool" to say "Pain is dangerous". I highly doubt Kishi put much thought into it.
    Even "IF" he legitimately considered it back then, it's pretty obvious that he did not give a fuck about him later down the road.
    his fight (even tho it was nicely done tbh) was not that great in term of power against Mifune.

    I would say, his portrayal during the war arc is below the Edo Kages, who alongside Nagato, itachi, Kin, and Gin
    were the strongest of Kabuto's ET. Not counting Asspulldara.
     
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    He won against the Sannin, Gave up vs Mifune by resisting Edo Tensei, and lost to Pain.
    1 win 1 loss 1 draw.

    Good enough for soccer fans.
     
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    Regarding the sannin, did he win or was he unable to win against them and that's why he called them the "Legendary Sannin"? :hm
    I might have forgotten the details. :hm

    - About Mifune, he "gave up" after he was already slashed. Had he been alive, he wouldn't have survived that slash. Or at least, he wouldn't have been able to continue fighting. And if Kishi thought Mifune is the one that would defeat him and make some sort of "rivalry" between them, that should tell us what his worth is tbh. :catshrug
     
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    1: Hanzo was well past his prime as an Edo.

    2: It was Hanzo’s mask Mifune destroyed.

    3: Hanzo didn’t know who Mifune was at first. No rivalry existed between them.

    4: Hanzo spared the Sannin and gave them their title in exchange for their lives.
     
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    The only fights we know of Prime Hanzo having are the fights with the Sannin, Mifune, and Nagato. Hanzo won the first two and retreated from the third, untouched in all of them.
     
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    1- If you mean his age, then we don't know his age. He does not seem too old to me. :catshrug
    2- Not only his mask, his head 2.


    3- I guess you can take it that way. :catshrug

    4- ok, but how good were the Sannin?
    Can we say Haku/Lee have the strongest hype/feats because they defeated Naruto/Sasuke?

    Yes, Naruto and Sasuke are extremely powerful now, but that does not mean at that time they were.
    We know for a fact that Tsunade did not have her Seal, Oro did not have ET, and Jman did not have SM either.
    and the list goes on.

    So that hardly tell us anything tbh. Seeing how Dan died at age 27, assuming the Sannin were around the same age on that war....
    so, they had ALMOST 30 years to improve, that hardly tell us how good Hanzo was...
     
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    Didn't Chiyo fight him as well?
     
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    1: The entire narrative is that Hanzo stopped training and became rusty. It’s what Pein and Mifune we’re talking about.

    2: That’s his headwear, and not a deep enough cut to kill him.

    4: We don’t know how strong the Sannin were, but they already have their summons, are full grown adults, and are bound to have generic Jonin Level Ninjutsu. Tsunade was also said to have won Konoha the war, so Tsunade has most of her support abilities.

    5: Its said that Chiyo fought/encountered Hanzo several times and developed antidotes to his poisons. It’s never said she fought him alone.
     
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    They're on the same general level.
     
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    Prime Hanzo beat 3 Sannins. However, we don't know how strong they were at that time. If they were Elite Jonins, then Minato would beat them too. In hype battle, it would be draw. One was a genius(in terms of fighting and creating Jutsu). Second was immune to his poison and could take down Pain in the past. By feats Minato wins OFC.
     
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