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Moro vs Jiren

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball Battledome' started by MShadows, May 21, 2020.

  1. MShadows Moderator

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    Full Power Moro takes Jiren on.

    Scenario 1: Absorption restricted
    Scenario 2: Absorption allowed
     
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    S1.Moro Mid-diffs
    S2.Moro Low-diffs
     
  3. Saitou Hajime

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    Round 1: Jiren
    Round 2: Moro
     
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    Moro wins Jiren at best using his FP can hold his own but will be outmatched overall.
     
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    Moro is literally hard bodied. Vegeta's SSBE dwarfed old man Moro yet he didn't do any serious damage to Moro with that kick. Moro just got up asking for more, then drained him
    I think in both situations Moro beats Jiren. I don't think Jiren has the stamina to keep up with Moro's insane endurance.
     
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    Moro > Current UIO Goku >= UI Goku (ToP) ~ Jiren

    Moro takes it easily in both situations
     
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    Moro takes this. The current Omen Goku is already being compared to ToP UI Goku in at least speed. His strength is doing nothing whereas he was giving Jiren a tougher time...
     
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    I cant remember too well. What suggests to us that Current Omen => ToP MUI?
     
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    Speed feat and the fact that Goku was stated to be far stronger by Piccolo and Moro.
     
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    They couldn’t see a suppressed omen Goku movement which only happened with complete UI in ToP and Piccolo was wondering just how much stronger Goku had gotten
     
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    Nothing directly states it. I don’t buy it being stronger than ToP UI
     
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    I'll have to re-read it. I'm guessing based on the mixed reaction that it isn't 100% clear.
     
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    Even if current UIO Goku isn't stronger it still would have to be easily close to it at the least on FP Jirens level before he adapted. Moro beat down this UIO Goku so it's not that difficult to figure out.
     
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    You see we use this exact same logic to say Jiren can take Beerus in a fight and you guys respond with “oh it was never stated”

    :pepethunk
     
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    Vegeta’s demand for Goku to step beyond the God state in order to defeat Jiren was always good enough for me...:kanyeshrug

    But then again that was Anime only so meh...
     
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    @Soldierofficial why did you neg me for this post.
    You sure got some weird obsession with me.
     
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  17. MShadows Moderator

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    Ignore him.
     
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    I have only returned the neg, I've only chosen your last comment, you are the one who gives me a neg per day for some strange reason. :tiredpepe
     
  19. MShadows Moderator

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    That’s a lie. You negged him first.
     
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    Glad I'm not the only one who saw the hypocrisy.
     
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    I believe that Moro wins both rounds, and this goes directly through the comparison between current UIO and ToP UIO (since it is the best way to measure the power of Jiren and Moro).

    In chapter 41, UI Omen Goku was able to make Jiren serious and activate his aura for the first time, as Krillin notes


    Serious Jiren is unable to deal real damage to UIO Goku with a direct hit, and after that Goku easily dodges all of his attacks





    Jiren then increases his power in an attempt to overcome UIO Goku. This is his last power up (or at least it is the last time any increase in his Ki is commented on by viewers), so I assume that this is his full power, since even though he was defeated by MUI Goku, he did not increase his strength


    After that when he starts to react to MUI Goku's attacks, Whis notes that he is doing it through sheer determination. That is, without more power ups, and it means that he was already using all of his power. In addition, the UI was severely depleting Goku's body, so he became weaker and weaker during the fight

    So, ToP UIO Goku was already able to make Jiren unleash all his power (someone reportedly beyond GoD level), and Jiren didn't necessarily get stronger by facing MUI Goku.
    Current UIO Goku is massively stronger than his previous version, and adding that to the fact that Whis is amazed by Goku's growth even though he has already seen the completed UI, and Moro's statement that he has overcome the gods (like Jiren), in addition to having defeated Goku without even using his supposed great arsenal of magic, he must be FP Jiren level, possessing a much greater durability.

    Basically, if UIO Goku is not stronger than MUI Goku, the level is close and by the statements in the manga, Moro is certainly Jiren level
     
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    Moro wins in both scenarios
     
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    Nothing, but they should be comparable. Still think MUI and Jiren are slightly stronger than Omen. Whether it’s enough to overcome Moro is unknown.
     
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    Facts: Next enemy > last. Therefore, UI omen Moro arc > UI TOP arc.
     
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    Therefore Moro > Broly > Beerus:smugbo
     
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    You guys got a fanfic DBS story all of you are secretly collaborating on?:ramsaythunk
     
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    No just going by what your saying

    If the next guy > previous

    That means Moro > Broly => Beerus

    am I saying anything wrong ? :smugbo
     
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    You know you are.
     
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    Moro wins both scenarios,

    U.I Sign Goku is stronger than U.I Goku from the ToP, Vegeta (SSBE) is superior to (U.I Sign) Goku. Moro remains stronger than SSBE Vegeta.
     
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