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MS Adult Obito Outside Izanami Was Basically Invincible

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  1. Turrin

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    MS Obito if he fought intelligently was basically unbeatable outside Izanami. As he could basically just pop Izanagi at any time which lasted at least 5min according to the Konan fight for him; and then when Izanami was running out he could just teleport away; and put in another one of his 50+ Sharingan and teleport back. Unless someone could fight an invincible Obito for hours they couldn’t even see the end of this; and if Obito was about to loose he could have just teleported away right at the end of that final Izanagi.

    Obito gaining the Rinnegan objectively made him less hax lol
     
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    He gets matched by anyone with similar stats and kagebunshin.
     
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    As soon as characters get to leave and use prep, they become very scary.

    But thw actual strategy you brought is impressive for its easiness
     
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    Obito shit diffs
     
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    Chadbito with Kamui+Izanagi+his Sharingan lab is cleary invincible :mahnigga Kishimolol has surely realized all Obito's crazy potential, that's why he restricted him so much the whole manga (imagine DMS with one arm like Danzo+his labo+Senju cells).



    I'm going to make an advantageous speculation of Obito's powers. Let suppose he can use an Izanagi for 10 minutes. And suppose that after 5 minutes of Kamui, it needs 1 second of recharge (so 1 second of Izanagi).

    Suppose he has 100 Sharingans in his lab.

    5min=300 seconds.
    10min=600 seconds.

    To force him to use an Izanagi. You have to hit him continuously for 300*600 seconds. Either 180000 seconds or 3000 minutes or 50 hours or 2 days+2 hours.

    And to push him to use all his reserve, you have to be able to fight 300*600*100 seconds. Either 1800000000 seconds, or 300000 minutes or 5000 hours or 208 days.

    Who can fight Chadbito 208 days non-stop? :gabe

    Obviously it's an advantageous speculation (he did not use Izanagi/Kamui in this way against Konan).
     
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    Minato was matched by kid Obito. Adult Obito would shit in his mouth.
     
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    Actually DMS Obito would have been invincible. Single MS Obito was still hax with limitations IMO.
     
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    Kid DMS Obito Full Rikudo Chakra, from chapter 688, giving some chakra to Kakashi (making him go from fodder to a living god who can tango with Kaguya) is literaly the strongest being in the Narutoverse.
     
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    DMS Obito would have had the same limitations as MS Obito unless Im missing something.
     
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    You're missing the entire manga
     
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    In other News water is wet, i think everyone know that it was plot that stopped obito, not that he was not capable
     
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    The “entire manga” is that your Obito hentai?
     
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    Same thing with no one using the rinnegans full potential bar nagato breifly
     
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    I can totally picture Maru looking at the manga with his left hand in his pants wanking off to every panel of Obito weeping and slobbering all over his computer with sliva and foam around the corners of his mouth.
     
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    Oh god did you have to make me picture that; too real man
     
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    Why everyone shitting on that maru guy for wanking obito, there is some truth to what hes staying, for example some characters can perform way better in battledome setting than in manga, for example Naruto if his one clone can perform such feats in war arc versus ressurected kages while weakened form then he actually could solo low and mid kages brackets combined and Even add few high tiers. Obito kamui is Just THAT stupid
     
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    DMS makes Kamui faster + he has long range kamui to snipe everything
    Also Obito's rigth arm is made of hashirama cells so he can just use Izanagi like Danzo did
     
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    I agree for the most part, outside of multi kage bunshin users with higher tier reflexes, and the obvious S/T users.

    Ninja that can avoid being touched give him trouble though. Ei4 (Amaterasu reflexes), Gengetsu (oil/water body/Joki Boy detonation), Oro (Hydra/LaC), Gaara (sand sphere) and Kimimaro (bracken bone leeching) are good examples if they have necessary conditions and implement the correct strategies.

    I had Obito beating a good handful of Akatsuki members in a previous thread.
     
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    The shadow clone trick was more plot shield than anything else because it is unlikely that a clone would get transported to the same spot as Obito's body parts. And normally even when up against multiple opponents Kamui worked flawlessly as seen against Danzo's subordinates.
     
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    He can already phase through and negate 99.9% of attacks so endless Izanagi spam wouldn't change much and you could say the same about anyone if you are letting them run away, prep, then come back to the fight, yet we know he didn't really approach the majority of the fights like this, most likely because of his phasing being superior to Izanagi.
     
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    Given both eyes together unleashes the Sharingan's true power he would be much stronger in DMS. Also both eyes gives him the potential to initially unlock Susanoo, whose attacks can be combined with Kamui. Besides all that he would still have the ability to use Izanagi although too much value in his original eyes to use them as sacrifices.
     
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    Obito was still about to warp KCM Naruto with a clone for backup so I’m not sure clones are as effective as they’re made out to be i this thread
     
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    Well another equatable ninja prevented it, several times, so equatable bunshin on the correct level should be able to.

    KCM Naruto was nerfed below the level of Kakashi in that battle by the author. He couldn’t even outspeed or beat a single 1 tailed Jin, Kakashi was pacing with V2 Jins and countering Obito from long range with kunai and Kamui.

    He was nerfed for majority of the war IIRC, he used an offensive shunshin against 1 ninja in the entire WA (Kisame) and his KCM reflexes dropped to mid kage level the moment after he dodged V2 Ei up until he unlocked BM. His SM reflex was the best between those two points, in all other fights within KCM he appeared nothing like the speedster SM clone which is a testament to the clear plot nerf that the author issued.

    He was relaying on chakra arms against majority of the speedsters he faced (Mu, Ei3, Obito) which tells you all you need to know about the nerfed condition of the ninja, even within the Bm phase where he was using chakra arms on a ridiculously slower Obito instead of just one paneling with a shunshin.
     
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    I never saw his feat against Kisame too impressive tbh, Kisame wasn't trying to battle him and furthermore... In what world does this poor hideous thing with no legs, seem like a man who can run at his fastest?


    His Sunshin which barely out sped V2 was never seen again, so perhaps Kishi didn't see it as a power able to blitz and one shot characters, which makes sense because combat reactions matter more than straight up running speed, as SM Naruto vs A3 showed.
     
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    Bee couldn’t see it so it was quite impressive, not to mention the compliment Kisame afforded to Naruto “unbelievable..” IIRC..

    Nah he just nerfed it. SM Naruto blitzed Asura Path from dozens of meters away starting on top of Gamabunta while Deva looked on and Asura was literally already at Tsunade’s face.

    KCM was shown and clearly hyped a level above so virtually everyone should’ve been getting one paneled, including Obito against two KCMs.

    He only used the shunshin once in the entire war so it’s irrelevant whether it’s a one panel, that’s an author nerf, that shunshin is basically Ei4’s entire offensive arsenal as a kage, and Naruto wasn’t allowed to use that on anyone, there’s no debating the reality of the shunshin nerf.

    The reflexes are a worse nerf, failing to react to a 1 tailed steam release kick or multiple V2 Jins is outright garbage writing.

    At one point KCM Naruto outright stated he had to take a direct hit from 1 tailed Roshi first to land a Rasengan. You’re talking potentially a lower kage level reflex nerf there, that’s some rusty Tsunade Kusanagi slash into surprise oro faceshot, old Hiruzen explosive tag drops after being kicked by edo Tobirama shit right there. Absurd nerf for the CQC based protagonist.
     
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    I don’t see how this would make him invincible...
     
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    Hes unbeatable relative to the standards of power at the Kage bracket...But once you hit High Kage tier Obito gets matched by quite a few people...KCM Naruto, Minato, Tobirama, EMS Sasuke...

    And once you get into Kage PLUS territory, and everyone and their grandmother has insane, endgame level hax just like Kamui, and also has a gargantuan stat advantage over Obito and basically can all blitz him in their sleep if they wanted?

    Hes nowhere near unbeatable

    Basically, if youre under High Kage, youre fucked against Obito, if youre High Kage you can compete and if youre high end in that spectrum you flat out win, and if youre better than High Kage you shit on Obito...Almost by default...

    Wow its almost like he functions like every other character on a tier list regardless of people who try to wank him and who dont realize Kamui has been beaten by qualities and Jutsu that practically everyone is REQUIRED to have to get into the High tier bracket or better :ohlord

    Shocker :jesuschrist
     
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    While im mostly agree with this post, due to kamui and izanagi combination, he can definately punch above his weight, he can cheese through some victories
     
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