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MS Obito vs Gokage

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by hbcaptain, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. hbcaptain Well-Known Member

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    Location : Madara vs Gokage
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    Apparently he can be compared to the founders, so how far can he go against the Gokage which is <<<<< founders
     
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    Obito loses
    Put Minato and Tobirama calibre ninja alongside him he destroys them.
     
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    Obito admitted that he couldn’t do it and used Sasuke to try and weaken them so he’d lose. Almost everyone knows that MS Obito isn’t on their general lvl bar founders haters/downplays or Obito wankers but that’s a just a small handful
     
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    If we take away PIS and nerfs, he could mind control them like he did with Yagura. Other than that, he loses.
     
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    MS Obito did downplay himself quite a bit though. He stated that without the Bijuu, he was powerless, yet he was still strong enough to force a deathmatch against Minato while he was just 14 and able to summon Kurama, a feat Jiraiya thought only Madara could do.
     
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    Obito wanted to do the moons eye plan. If Obito felt he could’ve beat the Gokage and take them hostage to go through with the plan then I think he might’ve done it. Even after having Sasuke and Taka go in and fight them he didn’t try to take out the Gokage. Instead he admitted he couldn’t do it and left to get his power together and get the Rinnegan and start a war. Nothing about Obito’s actions nor words during that moment suggests he was downplaying himself
     
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    He said that because he was refering to himself as Madara who is several times stronger than the Gokage. So, sure, he had to appear as a severly weackened Madara so that his actual strengh would make sens.
     
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    In terms of being Madara who he was masquerading it would definitely look like he was powerless in comparison. As Obito however he was actually a strong individual who was taught Six Paths jutsu by Madara.
     
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    Well, was anything stopping him from kidnapping Naruto as a child for Project TsukiNoMe? No.

    That does make sense.
     
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    Creating the Akatsuki, running the bloody mist, getting the other Jins, ITACHI :LOS
     
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    Obito was 14 during the Leaf attack (Itachi is ten years younger, so he was 4 or close to 5). Itachi joined when Obito was 24 and he was 14. That gave Obito ten years before Itachi ever came in. Running the bloody mist? He never really had to do that honestly. Same with creating the Akatsuki.
     
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    He didn’t have to but he did thus time went to those and Itachi for after he joined, not before :LOS
     
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    Wut?
     
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    Who?
     
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    Six Paths jutsu aren't usable without the Rinnegan.

    Having said that, why can't Obito beat the Gokage by summoning the Gedo Mazo? :hm
     
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    This is a cute distortion of what people were saying in other threads! :thumbsup
    OT:
    Obito picks them off one by one like a horror movie.

    Or he Summons GM and then picks them off one by one like a horror movie.

    Obito could have waltzed into any village he wanted to and snatched their Jin or Kage at any point as we see during the assault on Konoha, where he negs multiple barriers Minato only gets away because he can teleport.
    Only plot saved the world lol.



     
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    Where?
     
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    How? :catwalk
     
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    He admitted he couldn't have won and ran away so that's obviously untrue; he's portrayed as someone who's inferior to Itachi with intel by his own admission, Gokage would molest him.

    --can't react to lightened AY
    --can't deal with Byakugo amped Jinton
    -- no counter to hidden mist
    -- his only offense his kamui, the second he solidifies to warp one the other 4 rush him and kill him, and easily at that since Danzo's fodder bodyguards could tag him.

    He needs the Rinnegan to summon GM this is FKS MS Obito so he doesn't have it, War Arc Obito would obviously win.
     
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    MS Obito admitted inferiority to the Gokage, same Gokage that were negged with the shock-waves of a casual PS slash from Edo Madara, same Madara that was a tier below his VOTE counterpart, same Madara that got defeated by Hashi.

    MS Obito admitted that he couldn't have beaten the Gokage and ran away, he admitted that Itachi with intel would have killed him, he got tagged by Danzo's bodyguards, he died to Konan, he's nowhere near the founders.

    Same goes for alive Minato and Tobirama, they're portrayed as around high tier MS users level.

    Minato high diffed MS OBito and Tobi was MS Izuna's equal, EMS users would defeat them comfortably, let alone someone with INdra's EMS, let alone someone who soloed said EMS and 100% Kurama at the same time.

    That other thread (MS OBito, MInato and Tobi against Hashi) was like asking if KN1 Naruto, CS2 Sasuke and Jonin Kakashi could beat Orochimaru, that's the kind of difference in feats and portrayal between these characters and the founders.
     
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    That conversation was a trick to lead the armies to war like he wanted, as Tsunade later explains at HQ.
    Are you kidding? Kamui is automatic and it's them reacting to him that will be the problem.
    Which has no way of touching him remember?
    Lol he is a sensor, and the others can't figh in the mist like that.
    Why do people keep repeating this lie?
    Please stop.

    They never touched him even with knowledge.
    He got infected when he appeared out of Torune's butt.

    That's litteraly the opposite of what Madara tells him about GM. Because he has Senju and Uchiha DNA he is synced with it for use.
     
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    Problem being, this never happened. Obito tagged Torune himself, knowing he could discard his arm anyway.
     
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    He literally said he wanted Sasuke to weaken them in order to close the deal himself, when Sasuke failed, he backtracked knowing he couldn't win fighting all 5 at the same time, nothing about his inability to defeat the Gokage was changed or contradicted.

    He gets close to warp one, solidifies then the others kill him in that moment, simple as that.

    Only someone with the Rinnegan can summon the statue, it's stated countless times, Obito and Madara only did so once they had the Rinnegan despite needing it in other situations (mads vs Bijuu Tobi vs Gokage).
     
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    Gokage mid diff at best
    I’ll explain If needed
     
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    Gokage low diff.
     
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    Because he was telling them the truth there? When he lies to get them into a war?
    When even Tsunade and co. realize later on in 561 that he was just trolling them hard?

    Saying " Yes he showed up to lie to them and manipulate them into bringing out their Jinchuriki, but some of has to be true!" Doesn't make sense to me.

    Or he uses that very thought process against them like he did Fu and Torune in cannon.

    Even more, that very tactic was tried by the frickin dream team of shinobi and it did not work and mastered KCM Naruto, WA Kakashi, WA Kller B, and WA Guy, is a team that far surpasses the Gokage in speed, power and CQC ability.

    How did they land a blow?
    By having Kamui themselves and out playing him with it.

    Something the Gokage doesn't even have a chance at.

    So how is a weaker group supposed to do it without it?

    again here is Madara both explaining why even someone like Nagato would have issues controlling the Mazo without Uchiha and Senju cells combined, and explaining that Obito can use it because he has them.

    Obito could always use the Mazo, the giant stakes and Shruiken, black rods, etc. He just did not show off or explain his power unnecessarily at that point.
     
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