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MUI Goku vs Sailor Moon

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by Dreams of Tommorow, Apr 15, 2018.

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  1. Dreams of Tommorow Well-Known Member

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    This is going on in another thread.
     
  3. Plague Punches People in the Face

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    I've seen Sailor Moon hurt by falling rocks, tripping over vines, burned by normal fire, blitzed by regular people, etc.

    Wtf puts her anywhere near even Kid Goku's speed and durability?

    Sailor Moon might have some crazy star destroying attack, but she takes time to cast them. Where is this wank coming from? Or is this a troll thread?

    I hope you guys aren't equating travel speed with combat speed again.
     
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    There's no such thing as travel speed and combat speed in here. You'd think it was common knowledge by now.
    Not that it matters since the crackhead has the advantage in speed either way.
    Also yeah..this is being discussed in another thread where people contest SM feats and shit.
    At best..it's gonna be undecisive ,at worst, it's gonna turn into a shitstorm.
     
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    Sailor moon due to hax imo.

    I could use goku's low end/worst showings to downplay the hell out of him too. :facepalm

    Don't go down this route dude. Your only gonna embarrass yourself.
     
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    And I've seen Goku hurt by Chi Chi, Bulma, bullets etc. Gag feats/low ends happen.
    Seriously where have you been? We dropped this travel/combat speed separation bullshit long ago. Unless there is something mechanically or inherently different about how Sailor Moon travels long distances then there is no reason her combat speed would be slower.
     
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    Nothing. Goku spites
     
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    There is a difference whether you retards want to admit it or not. But I'm not going to waste any more time on this. You really can't attack Death Battle if you think Travel Speed and Combat/Reaction Speed is the same.

    No wonder this section gets made fun of. Yikes....

    Some Examples:



    EDIT: If you really think about it, this applies to DB too. They have insane Combat Speed but lackluster Travel Speed early on. (Goku on Snakeway specifically)

    We separate Striking Strength from Lifting Strength, don't we? Why not this? 99% of the contenders that can so-called "Take on DBZ" turns out wouldn't do so well if we made this a seperate parameter.
     
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    There is no difference, if you can maintain a certain speed and stop under your own power you automatically have the reflexes.
     
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    I disagree. There are even characters that need to "charge up" then Travel really fast in 1 direction.
    You can't equate that to someone who can turn, identify attacks from the sides/behind and dodge unless it's the same character.
    In the case of Sailor Moon, even during non-gag/serious fights, she's been hit or tagged by far far FAR slower enemies than this "100 Billion x Lightspeed!" bs.

     
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    >Actually using CharacterRant as a source of argument.
     
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    Anime SM =/= Manga, she is low Trillion c in manga and shit in anime. Anyway, Goku Blitz and kill SM, she comes back, this remakes kill ect ... she gets in astral form, if Goku can not touch the thing on the astral plane, he loses.
     
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    That Justice League scan in no way invalidates that both Superman and Diana have MFTL+++ Combat & Travel Speed Feats.
     
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    I never said it did. The point was to show it was an acknowledged separated parameter even in comics.
    Again, if we seperate Lifting Strength from Striking Strength, why not Travel Speed from Combat/Reaction Speed?
     
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    Because you need to be able to see where the fuck you're going if you're flying at MFTL+
     
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    In 1 direction, perhaps.

    In this particular scenario, MUI Goku would teleport next to Sailor Moon, she turns to react, and is instantly killed via punch.

    EDIT: Even if we did grant her absurd reaction speed in front, Goku could just change his tactics and attack from other angles. UI would make it so the switch in tactics wouldn't take any time.
     
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    You better not be talking shit about the anime.:catfish

    Regardless, this match is pretty straightforward. If SM is faster, she dumps on any form of Goku (via hax). If not, it depends on whether or not Goku can get through her defensive hax. Though i've still yet to see any of the scans regarding the regeneration, astral projection, etc. Not saying they don't exist, just curious of the context.:caticon
     
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    Show me her reacting to a MFTL attack from the side (well, really any direction) and reacting in time to block or dodge it.
    I will concede if it's a decent showing.

    Durability is another factor....
     
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    Reported.

    Also, context. In FF5 a a building being destroyed with you in it results in a game over. AKA: Death.
    I didn't make that up, it's in the storyline.
     
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    Yeah, yeah...you come here and insult people who don't share your views without any sort of provocation and then have the audacity to report people who treat you the same way.
    Just fuck off and stop adressing me.
     
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    Goku was almost killed by a laser, that wasnt even wall level , considering how small the hole it made in him was. Meaning Super saiyan blue Goku,( or at least Blue Goku at that time), isnt even wall level.

    Goku died from a heart virus, something microscopic killed him. I didnt make this up, it's in the manga, Goku isnt even microscopic level. Anything showing otherwise is nothing but wank and stuff taken out of context.
     
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    Those are both false equivalences.
     
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    Astral Plane come from here: Scan 1, Scan 2 And if I remember correctly, little Moon and Saturn can also exist in astral
     
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    And Dante from DMC can be killed by fodder demons if you put the controller down, despite this he is shown. On multiple occasions, to be capable of fighting far more powerful beings without injury.:notrust
     
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    You're trying to equate a player/gameplay mechanic with a plot point.

    But regardless, this has nothing to do with MUI Goku vs. Sailor Moon.

    EDIT: I'm officially sick of this place. You people can believe what you want.
     
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    In the show maybe. Not in the manga. She's never hurt by regular attacks or people.
     
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    Care to explain why?

    Goku dying from a microscopic virus and almost dying from a sub-wall level laser are also plot points. The first is the whole fucking reason Trunks went back in time and save Goku, so he could fight the androids. The 2nd is for Goku to stop always having his guard down + having Vegeta do something in the movie/ arc.

    So not, not false equivalence. Goku is submicroscopic level, since low-ends are the only things accepted.
     
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