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Naruto figured out something

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives' started by nif, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. nif Banned

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    posted this already in prediction but might be worth its own thread

    naruto 's idea for completing the jutsu : using kage bunshin, one clone does rasengan, another clone transforms its chakra into wind nature

    so does suggest the kakashi clones looking respectively to the right and to the left :nod
     
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  2. Sasori <font color="#8B0000">● GB Genius ●</font>

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    Yes, one kage bunshin will concentrate on the form manipulation, while another combines it with the nature manipulation.

    The use of 2 kage bunshins to form Rasengan foreshadows this.

    And not forgetting what we just saw now of Kakashi's kage bunshin's individually looking left and right.
     
  3. bearzerger Major Cliff Allister McLane

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    Well he could probably create the windsengan that way but it would look really lame and I can't see how it would realistically work in a fight. Or do you see Sasuke waiting merrily while three Narutos stand in a circle working on it.
     
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    It's worked everytime he has made a Rasengan.
     
  5. CrazyMoronX Old Man

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    I would say "duh", but that seems redundant.

    I just hope that's not all there is to it. Wind Rasengan, WOW POWERFUL!
     
  6. B.o.t.i Active Member

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    ARghh I don't think it will work in battle like berzerger said also having one do 1 thing while another does the other thing naruto has been doing that in previous chapters=

    this page.
     
  7. floopyliangchu a thousand yrs of pain

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    im hoping he's only using it as a basis to learn.... once he masters it he'll whip it out of his butt at will with no bunshins
     
  8. Shishi-O Oda Is God

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    hey tell me if you agree, but that was the dumbest eureeka i have ever seen.:)
     
  9. 4ghost Seimei

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    The idea of Naruto using two clones to create the new jutsu as he is right now is impossible. He cannot complete the Rasengan without the total focus of both clones. It looks like this will be the reason for Naruto to first be capable of doing the Rasengan without a clone and possibly even one hand. If Naruto's goal is to first learn to do the Rasengan with one hand then his next goal could be to use his two hands to create the new jutsu.

    The only way I see him still using a clone in order to create his new jutsu, the completed Rasengan, is if he only decides to learn how to do the Rasengan with one body rather than one clone.

    The eureka he got from seeing Kakashi do the impossible could then be to divide the responsibility between two hands rather than two clones.
     
  10. Ofkinheimer Active Member

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    If after 3 years Naruto still can't do Rasengan by himself with two hands, I doubt he's all of a sudden gonna be doing it in one hand.
     
  11. SexyNoJutsu Zentastic

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    It's going to be a....


    right hand : rasengan

    left hand : wind control

    then smash'em all together and get out of the way kind of jutsu.
     
  12. alocxeno Member

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    The last times Naruto used Rasengan was the "Oodama Rasengan"s. So he would probably need two for that ocassion. Now, I think the clones are juz to learn and he can fuse easily afterwards.
     
  13. B.o.t.i Active Member

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    Finally someone thinking like me >>I thought it was obvious from what yamato said about mixing to natures after that I thought when it comes to mixing seems to hand is needed.

    I also thought that kazengan would be a hadokenesq stance move as well
     
  14. nif Banned

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    I don't think so
    Since it's as hard to do both nature and manipulation as looking right and left at the same time. I think it will be much easier to do all the chakra nature with one clone (creating wind chakra) and have the second clone only manipulating that wind chakra (doing a rasengan out of that chakra)

    makes so much sense! :nod

    And yeah that would look shabby but heh! that's how Naruto always did it!! :nod
     
  15. MasterOdin Stargazer

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    This is the one problem I have had with Naruto's training (which I have enjoyed otherwise). Why wouldn't Kakashi teach Naruto a simplier jutsu to start with where Naruto has to put together form and nature manipulation. All Naruto has done so far is send out his chakra as wind chakra and hit the waterfall. It doesn't make much sense to go from that to working on a jutsu that even the Fourth couldn't complete!

    On a side note, Kakashi showed that in making a clone, he could look left while the clone looked right. What if Naruto makes use of the kyuubi to help complete the jutsu. Naruto "looking left" while the kyuubi is "looking right". Now, I don't think it will happen, but it is something that popped up in my mind.
     
  16. 4ghost Seimei

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    I thought that Kakashi did have a reason behind having Naruto first gain mastery of his ultimate justsu. If Naruto completes this trainig then he would be theoretically capable of mastering any other jutsu within his element. Perhaps this is how Kakashi trains when it comes to element jutsu. If he can master one of the more difficult elemental jutsu when he comes across an opponents jutsu then he has no problem when he copies it and reproduces it against that very opponent.
     
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  17. LordoftheAbyss Dark Wizard

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    this is not DragonQuest :D
     
  18. AznEnigma69 Alucard of the Leaf

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    well, it would be much better than using 3 clone!! It's getting really anoying everytime naruto do something, there's a clone.
     
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    The word a bunch of you are looking for is epiphany, not eureka. Eureka is just an exclamation like 'wow!'.

    And yea, I still think this whole use a clone thing is lame....I'm really hoping there's more to it.
     
  20. R3trograde Il n'y a pas de hors-texte.

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    Wasn't this kind of d'uh anyway? If he's been working for 200 hours, he didnt really do the same thing EVERY time, did he?
     
  21. NecroMaster Newbie is a filthy word

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    He's trying to make a wind chakra rasengan, not add wind chakra to his rasengan.

    Here I'll help you all understand.

    How does one make wind chakra? You rub one bit of your own chakra against another bit of your own chakra.

    So why is making a wind chakra rasengan "impossible" (like trying to look both right and left at the same time)? You must maintain the shape and flow of the chakra inside of the rasengan while rubbing said chakra against it's self, that sounds rather impossible to me.

    So how does one make a wind rasengan then? Simple really, you just grind the chakra of the rasengan against more chakra and poof wind chakra. It's as easy as making a ragengan in each hand and pushing them together.
     
  22. TenshiOni Active Member

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    People, if it was that easy, then how come Kakashi and Yondaime have been unable to do it till now?
     
  23. Kyuubi Naruto Hounds of Justice

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    I've been thinking of ways and truthfully I can't think of anything that will work outside of things that will make Kakashi and Yondaime think "Why didn't we do that?"

    Also Kakashi's explaination using Kage Bunshin doesn't mean there's going to be a Kage Bunshin to use in it (even though there probably will be), it just means doing the impossible by using an unorthadox manner. It was impossible to do it so Kakashi used an unorthadox manner to achieve so. It's the same with Naruto.

    It will probably be something new but someone probably thought of it already.
     
  24. The Pink Ninja Infamous Cocksucker

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    One making the form, one adding the element is LAME but I suppose it'll at elast get this show on the road.
     
  25. Odlam Team 7 4 Life

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    If it's something too simple, Kakashi's just going to lift up his head protector and that things is now going to be used by two Konoha shinobi. And Sasuke eventually.

    I'm keenly interested in seeing what kind of solution Naruto comes up with that keeps this from being copyable.
     
  26. atom on a Forums Break

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    Lmao. If its to easy this is what will happen.

    Kakashi: !!!!!!!!!!
    Naruto: ........
    Naruto: ALL RIGHT! I finally completed it..
    Naruto: I shall call it...
    Naruto: The Uzmaki BALL OF JUSTICE!
    Kakashi: You might want to change the name..
    Yamato: Do it or the girrafes will get you
    Naruto: !
    Naruto: ok... how about..
    Naruto: WASENGAN
    Naruto: Now FORM!
    * SFX: BOOOOOM! *
    Kakashi: !!!!!
    Yamato: .........!!
    Naruto: What... pooower
    Naruto: Cannnt control..
    * SFX: POOF *
    Naruto: So close... this is impossible!
    Naruto: Its like trying to look up and down at the same time
    Kakashi: ..........!
    Kakashi: Kage Bunshin no Jutsu!
    Kakashi(1): *looks up*
    Kakashi: * looks down*
    Kakashi: Your point was..?
    Naruto: .......... !!!
    Naruto: I GOT IT!

    ----------------

    Naruto: Kage Bunshin No Jutsu!!
    Naruto(1): We must make the wind chakra in one hand...
    Naruto: Make the Rasengan in another
    Naruto(1): Have the 2 circulating chakra's mix..
    * SFX: BAM!!!! *
    * SFX: POOF!! *
    Naruto: ....
    Naruto: WASNGEAN!!!
    Kakashi: !!!!!!!!!!
    Kakashi: IT WAS THAT EASY?!!
    Naruto: Heh..
    Kakashi: Well good job Naruto.. how about you try that again.. heh
    Naruto: Ok.
    Naruto: Wasengan!
    Kakashi: Screw learning
    *SFX: Movement*
    Naruto: Sharingan......!!
    Kakashi: *SFX: COPY*
    Kakashi: WASENGAN!!

    -- Sidetext: The 2 Shinobi who completed the ulimate ninjutsu. Truth.. power.. and Jutice!!! ----
     
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    I know this may sound ludicrous but here goes...

    Naruto will form a Kage Bunshin with two heads.

    One head will concentrate on wind chakra, the other head will focus on form manipulation.

    Normal Naruto will hold his hand out and release the massive chakra.

    Ok everyone can laugh now.
     
  28. The Pink Ninja Infamous Cocksucker

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    Or Kishi could totally ignor the copy factor or make a new reason up out of thin air.
     
  29. Odlam Team 7 4 Life

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    Considering that Kishi allowed Kakashi to even imitate the Rasengan, he seems to be even more keenly aware of what the Sharingan can and cannot copy then we readers. ESPECIALLY with the rematch with Sasuke on the horizon, I doubt Kishi will simply just ignore the copy factor.
     
  30. nif Banned

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    did Jiraiya or Kakashi thought of doing a rasengan with a bunshin ? :nod
    I guess you could call that bad plot writing

    lol
     
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