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Neji's Jyuuken put to the test

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome Archive' started by EvilMoogle, Oct 22, 2006.

  1. EvilMoogle Well-Known Member Supporting Staff

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    Quite some time ago there was a quite interesting thread devised to "test" Kenshiro's Hokotu Shinken (don't remember who it was, and am too lazy to look it up, stand up and take a bow if you're still here).

    I thought it would be interesting to do the same thing with Neji's Juken. The general scenerio is this, each of the individuals listed stand up and take a hit from one of Neji's Juken-strike-to-the-heart (as he was going to use against Hinata). Who's still alive afterwards?

    The List:
    1. Captain America (Marvel) (Without his shield)
    2. Ryouga (Ranma 1/2)
    3. The Hulk (Marvel) (Current but with no healing factor)
    4. Superman (DC) (Post-crisis)
    5. Sebastian Shaw (Marvel)
    6. Luffy (One Piece) (Any gear, but specify if you think this matters)
    7. Black Panther (Marvel) (With his vibranium armor)
    8. Leech (Marvel)

    Just to stress, this is not a fight, the targets are not allowed to dodge, roll with the punches, or attempt to counter in any way other than their durability and innate defensive abilities. In example, Superman's bioelectric aura can (try to) defend, but he can't fry Neji with heat vision or just dodge the punch.
     
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  2. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    Neji has to make body contact for it to work. so anybody with thick armor or Bio-eleritc fields won't be affected
     
  3. Darklyre ponies!

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    1. Captain America - Dead
    2. Ryouga - No idea
    3. The Hulk - Alive (ridiculously durable)
    4. Superman - Alive (even his cells are invulnerable)
    5. Sebastian Shaw - Dead (His powers only affect kinetic energy, I think, not chakra to the inner organs)
    6. Luffy - Maybe (his internal organs are also rubber, so no idea if the jyuken strike is going to do anything to it)
    7. Black Panther - Alive (vibranium is supposedly able to absorb any and all energy short of cosmic)
    8. Leech - Dead (his power only affects mutants, which Neji is not)
     
  4. Hitotsumami Hahahahahahah!

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    I agree with the post above mine completely.
     
  5. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    The List:
    1. Captain America (Marvel) (Without his shield)Dead
    2. Ryouga (Ranma 1/2)Dead
    3. The Hulk (Marvel) (Current but with no healing factor)Dead
    4. Superman (DC) (Post-crisis)Alive
    5. Sebastian Shaw (Marvel) I dunno
    6. Luffy (One Piece) (Any gear, but specify if you think this matters)Dead
    7. Black Panther (Marvel) (With his vibranium armor) Alive
    8. Leech (Marvel)Dead
     
  6. Suzumebachi ReSpekt

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    Why do you think so rild?
     
  7. Gunshin Chocoball Mukai!!111

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    Actually, Neji doesn't have to physicaly touch you.
     
  8. Pipboy Now With 96% More Pip

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    1. America dies
    2. Ryouga for all his external toughness prolly woundn't survive.
    3. Hulk lives beause I am now no longer certain that anything can actually kill him. Of course there a good chance that it might knock him out, as a wasp sting to the brain did.
    4. Superman is very much beyond this scale of attack.
    5. Shaw is likewise dead. Its a chakra injection of death.
    6. Luffy would most likely survive. If he can survive gear 2, which pummels his internal organs and the rokuougan 3 times to the heart he can survive a Jyuuken strike.
    7. Vibranium is wrong, but it still stops contact.
    8. Leech, depends on who he has absorbed.
     
  9. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    Misworded it.
     
  10. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    I never heard of Luffy's organs being super-tough. And Jyuuken by-passes all that. I may be wrong, so don't try to hang me in Suzumebachi fasion
     
  11. Suzumebachi ReSpekt

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    Fine. Just see what Pipboy said on the matter.
     
  12. ZergKage Well-Known Member

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    The List:
    1. Captain America (Marvel) (Without his shield) Dead
    2. Ryouga (Ranma 1/2) I wouldnt know
    3. The Hulk (Marvel) (Current but with no healing factor) Alive
    4. Superman (DC) (Post-crisis) Alive
    5. Sebastian Shaw (Marvel) Dead
    6. Luffy (One Piece) (Any gear, but specify if you think this matters) Alive
    7. Black Panther (Marvel) (With his vibranium armor) Dead
    8. Leech (Marvel) Dead
     
  13. Gunshin Chocoball Mukai!!111

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    This sounds good to me, but I was wondering what people think about Neji's Jyuken vs Shinobi Shaw. If you become intangible, can something mystical like chakra get to you?
     
  14. Pipboy Now With 96% More Pip

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    Intangible would immunize you from chakra injection, it has properties of matter.
     
  15. Darklyre ponies!

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    Intangibility doesn't protect against magical effects. Shadowcat can be hurt by the sword she shared with Magik, whatever it's name was. However, I don't believe Neji's strikes are mystical in nature.
     
  16. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    What about Enel? he can restart his heart right?
     
  17. King Bookah Kiss my ring

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    Yes, Enel can restart his heart. I believe Wiper killed him when he did it.
     
  18. ZergKage Well-Known Member

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    I'd think no to chakra.
     
  19. Suzumebachi ReSpekt

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    It wouldn't work on Enel. Enel doesn't really appear to have a heart or organs at all when he turns into lightning. Wiper killed him because he used seastone.
     
  20. Comic Book Guy Cassandra Cain Fanboy Retired Staff

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    No, that would be Uncle Sam.
     
  21. Giovanni Rild The mods are my enemy

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    It would, on his human form.
     
  22. jplaya2023 My Canon >>> Your Opinions

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    here's jplaya's canon response

    1. Captain America (Marvel) (Without his shield) R.I.P
    2. Ryouga (Ranma 1/2) ?? DUNNO WHO THIS IS
    3. The Hulk (Marvel) (Current but with no healing factor) R.I.P
    4. Superman (DC) (Post-crisis) R.I.P
    5. Sebastian Shaw (Marvel) ??????
    6. Luffy (One Piece) (Any gear, but specify if you think this matters) R.I.P
    7. Black Panther (Marvel) (With his vibranium armor) R.I.P
    8. Leech (Marvel)R.I.P
     
  23. Comic Book Guy Cassandra Cain Fanboy Retired Staff

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    Not canon. Opinion.

    My god. . . you never heard of Ranma 1/2?

    Superman > Neji's Jyuuken. Natual durability and bio-electric aura. Bio-electric aura can only be bypassed by magic and other Kryptonians.

    You have no idea what Wakadan Vibranium does, do you?

     
  24. Reznor Well-Known Member Administrator

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    You are a canon? :S
    What, are there people making filler jplaya responses?

    Well, my initial reaction:

    The List:
    1. Captain America (Marvel) (Without his shield) Dead
    2. Ryouga (Ranma 1/2) Dead, probably
    3. The Hulk (Marvel) (Current but with no healing factor) Alive
    4. Superman (DC) (Post-crisis) Alive
    5. Sebastian Shaw (Marvel) ?
    6. Luffy (One Piece) (Any gear, but specify if you think this matters) Hard to say. Not sure how his organs work
    7. Black Panther (Marvel) (With his vibranium armor) Alive - has good armor
    8. Leech (Marvel) Not sure
    Why?
     
  25. jplaya2023 My Canon >>> Your Opinions

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    lol im not a canon nevermind on that.

    Hulk is dead like superman because they do have pressure points that can be exploited and taken advantage of with the right move. Neiji's chakra can conceiveably(sp) penetrate hulk's thick skin and superman's bio aura to get to their pressure points through the use of gentle fist.
     
  26. Suzumebachi ReSpekt

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    Its simple, they are rubber.

    His organs are just as durable as his outside.
     
  27. Comic Book Guy Cassandra Cain Fanboy Retired Staff

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    He means that his opinions equals facts. Which is, of course, not true.
     
  28. EvilMoogle Well-Known Member Supporting Staff

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    Wow, this might be the most responses I've ever gotten in a battledome thread ;)

    Got to go to work, but here's my thoughts quickly:

    1. Captain America:
    Dead, he's really just the base-line so that Neji gets one for sure.

    2. Ryouga
    I am of the opinion that his internals are as weak as everyone elses, so he's dead too. But he'd probably be able to keep functioning for like 5 minutes after his heart explodes.

    3. The Hulk (Marvel) (Current but with no healing factor)
    Based on the fact that a fairly small layer of armor can stop Neji, Neji doesn't seem to have the depth of attack to kill the Hulk. I do think it would hurt him signifignatly though. Though the real Hulk with his healing factor wouldn't care.

    4. Superman (DC) (Post-crisis)
    Even if we assume Neji can somehow bypass the bioelectric aura, all of Supes' cells are superhuman so I don't see Neji hurting him. This was included to have a "Neji loses for sure" condition.

    5. Sebastian Shaw (Marvel)
    I tend to agree with above people's opinions that Neji's attack is not mearly kenitic energy, so he'd kill Shaw with no unusual problem. Which is too bad, because if Shaw could absorb it, watching Neji and Shaw fight would probably be pretty cool until one of them exploded ;)

    6. Luffy (One Piece) (Any gear, but specify if you think this matters)
    Using the logic above, Neji's attacks seem to be something more than blunt force, so I would say he'd tear at Luffy's heart despite it being rubber.

    7. Black Panther (Marvel) (With his vibranium armor)
    I presume Black Panther's armor is at least as good as spider-guy's.

    8. Leech (Marvel)
    Leech's ability can affect non-mutants, but there are serious questions to how much. So if it affects chakra-based-abilities, I think Leech would survive the hit (though he'd actually probably be hurt pretty bad just by a normal punch to the gut).

    I'll respond to individual posts later, as I'm already late getting out of the apartment.
     
  29. Perfect Moron More special than you

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    You don't really know what canon means, do you?
     
  30. CrazyMoronX Old Man

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    For the record, I made the Kenshiro thread. Featured was a kitten's furball.

    I'm going with this list:

    1. Captain America (Marvel) (Without his shield) Dead
    2. Ryouga (Ranma 1/2) I wouldnt know
    3. The Hulk (Marvel) (Current but with no healing factor) Alive
    4. Superman (DC) (Post-crisis) Alive
    5. Sebastian Shaw (Marvel) Dead
    6. Luffy (One Piece) (Any gear, but specify if you think this matters) Alive
    7. Black Panther (Marvel) (With his vibranium armor) Alive
    8. Leech (Marvel) Dead
     
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