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North Korea warns US as it suspends South Korea talks over military drills

Discussion in 'The NF Café' started by RemChu, May 15, 2018.

  1. RemChu † Papa Bless †

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  2. HolyHands Let me touch you

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    It's bad timing to have a military drill meant to prepare for a war with the same country you're trying to make peace with. Dunno if this will really hurt relations in the long run though.
     
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    It's a regularly scheduled yearly drill. NK is aware of it too. Nk is just bipolar.

     
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    These drills are more than just yearly they're like quarterly.
     
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    I was thinking this morning, would be better if NK just didn't exist.

    Looks like Kim thinks so too!
     
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    Do not wrestle a tiger
    Do not plunge in the stream
    Know but one thing
    Know only this thing
    To quake and to tremble
    As if facing a chasm
    As if treading on ice.

    - The Book of Poetry (~500 BC)
     
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    Did North Korea say that they would suspend talks if they saw the US and South Korea drilling beforehand? If not, then they have no right to bitch about this. Also, if North Korea really does want to seek peace with the US and South Korea, then there is even more reason why they shouldn't be so upset.

    The onus is on North Korea to show that they are not going to be the insane, violent, criminal regime that they have been since their inception. Until then, I don't see a problem with continuing these drills.
     
  9. Cardboard Tube Knight Well-Known Member

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    They’re playing Trump. He needs a win and was celebrating about how he did something that no other President has. Yeah, get played super hard by multiple foreign powers.
     
  10. makeoutparadise I will have my revenge

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    Dat nobel peace prize :gar
     
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    Wow, totally didn't see this coming.
     
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    Already posted brah.
     
  13. makeoutparadise I will have my revenge

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    Oh! Zhongzi please!
    Do not climb our border wall
    Do not steal the jobs that we have created
    Its not that I mind about the jobs
    But Im afraid of drugs and crime
    You are dear to me Zhongzi
    But what will voters say?
    Of that I am afraid indeed
    -Odes of Trump (Qing dynasty)
     
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    I like to point to my post (some days back, in regards to the Iran deal).

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    The same goes for North Korea. I think its all just a show and somehow funny. Just think about it. Now after "rocket man" got the bomb, he wants to make a deal. For how long ? Isn't that the cat and mice play we saw for the last 30 years ? And why funny ... making "deals" with a dictator ?
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    Moreover these kinds of "forced deals" might end up more brittle then it looks currently.
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    I totally saw it coming :)

    (yes, I am a smartass)
     
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    Being responsible for a nuclear war on the Korean peninsula would accomplish that. :blobglare
     
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    Speaking of nukes:



    Lose or lose (there's no winning here, just different levels of losing), Trump is not going to come out unscathed by this. Most likely humiliated after all his bravado.
     
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    Then I suppose it may end up being a situation in which the only long-term solution is South Korea being armed with nukes as well, which is really not a good solution at all.
     
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  20. Hitt Never ending sea of disappoint

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    NK isn't giving up its nukes without something major in return. That shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. They aren't going to trust the US unless they provide a 100% guarantee that they won't try to topple NK sometime in the future.
     
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    they have no incentive towards abandoning their nukes. the history of the US involving Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Libya is a basis for them not to trust the US government in their eyes.
     
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    This is a victory for NK regardless of what happens. There's a reason no other administration wanted to meet him face to face...it's a concession in and of itself, and it feeds NK's propaganda machine. They can spin this as him facing the demon Trump down and telling him to go fuck himself and prepare for annihilation, even if the talks break down.
     
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    Still the only way you're going to get anywhere on NK is by having the people who actually have the authority to make decisions talk directly to each other.

    The North Korean ambassador to Sweden meeting the American ambassador to Sweden in some Stockholm café, like they've been doing before, will not result in any binding agreements because an ambassador does not have the clout to promise their country will give up nukes/withdraw troops. Only the Commanders-in-Chief of the two countries can make those decisions.

     
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    Trump got too cocky. Just in time for those primaries.
     
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    While I do agree that it would be stupid (from North Korea's perspective) to give up their nukes, I'm pretty sure they outright said that they would be willing to completely denuclearize, even if the US didn't leave the Korean peninsula. They're going back on their word here and therefore they're also the ones who can't be trusted in negotiations.
     
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    Nah... here comes the beauty of it. Who said "willing to completely denuclearize" means the same for Kim ?

    You see, I really doubt he wanted to give up his nukes.

    The reality is simple. There are no good options and the mess is pilling up. But lets wait and see.
     
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    I mean... Even he's well aware of what those words mean to the international community. There was no ambiguity about it.

    Same, which is why I was surprised when he said that originally and assumed it was either a massive misstep or that he was lying and it was too good to be true.
     
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    The nukes are a 100% guarantee against US invasion.

    Anyway why would NK develop nukes and then give them up?
     
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