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Oda assumes we should still find Jack intimidating

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by San Juan Wolf, Sep 13, 2018.

  1. San Juan Wolf They're even better when you're dead

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    * He was unable to take dog Nekomamushi and Inuarashi for several days without resorting to gassing the island

    * He was beaten so badly by Sengoku, Fujitora and hopefully Tsuru he was reported dead

    * He got two punch KOd and wrecked by Zunisha

    Maybe we'd find him intimidating if he could accomplish literally anything he sets out to do, and maybe not get beaten all the time.
     
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  2. Pain In The Ass >_>

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    He;s probably the weakest of the Calamities, you can see it in his behaviour. He's basically an 11yo Call of Duty kid who gets angry over anything and makes reckless decisions.
     
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    Do people find any One Piece character intimidating?
     
  4. GrizzlyClaws Big Bad Grizzly

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  5. Vengarl Maniac fan club

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    Yeah because fighting 2 mink leaders for days without rest, going after top tier admirals and surviving a massive island attack are just pathetic feats
     
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  6. TheWiggian #AdmiralsIncorporated

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    This belongs to Oda's world building, precisely in Wano's built.
    Each calamity controls a certain area like Jack been brought up as an example.
     
  7. Samehadaman Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, Jack is ofc a big deal in the OPverse, but in this context of the specific region they are in the Beast Pirates are the ones outgunned.

    Luffy is Jack level or higher by feats, portrayal and plot.
    Jack's next best soldiers are fodder to Zoro.
    Hawkins is evened out by Law.

    Unless the Calamities PLURAL, Shogun (maybe) or Kaido are crashing in it is Beast Pirates that need to worry.
    For this region I mean, where it stated Jack and immediatly followed by the 3 headliners are the top fighting force.
     
  8. forkandspoon The only things that never end

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    The dude is basically the first person to be crazier than Luffy.
     
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    jack the jobber with the three recent losses before he even gets to the on-screen fights
     
  10. Fel1x Friend of the Grummles

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    who wouldn't be beaten so badly by this team?

    And as for minks, Nekomushi was a member of Roger's pirates crew, don't underestimate him
     
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  11. Samehadaman Well-Known Member

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    And Inu.
     
  12. Etherborn Cosmic Impulse

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    Well, he is the First Mate as it turns out. Scaling to Katakuri is literally the only thing that makes him intimidating right now.
     
  13. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    No thats what they call the Clamities ( Futoro Gatana) which means closest and most trusted warriors of Kaido.
    We dont know if Jack is the first mate or top calamity.
     
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    Hmm, I should know better by now. He might have been called the same thing on Zou, come to think of it.

    Doflamingo's executives had the same bullshit going on.
    Why can't a right hand man be just that? :gglife
     
  15. Samehadaman Well-Known Member

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    They are not necessarily ranked in an official way. Katakuri was explicitly stated to be the prodigy or best son or whatever but between Smoothie and Cracker only the bounty number hinted at ranked, and the WG decides that not Big Mom.
     
  16. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    I guess not every crew is structured like the Roger pirates/Strawhat pirates.

    With Kaido's crew I assume we have to have a showcase of all the calamities, see their bounties, and how strong they are before we call who the strongest is.

    I still think that Jack is the weakest of the three calamities if the King, Queen, Jack card theme is true.
     
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    That would make more sense.
     
  18. Vengeance Goldenhand the Just

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    Jack the Wrecked is back for another bashing. :hestonpls
     
  19. San Juan Wolf They're even better when you're dead

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    Except the problem is, it doesn't matter how strong Oda tells us he is, if Oda also keeps having him get wrecked. Even if it's such overwhelming odds, it doesn't add to his intimidation factor as an antagonist if he keeps losing or being unable to win.
     
  20. Bernkastel Welcome child of man

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    Getting wrecked by a combo of Sengoku,Issho and Tsuru isn't something to be ashamed of...every character in OP would lose to that trio.
     
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  21. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    I dont even think Tsuru or Sengoku even did anything.

    Fuji by himself probably rekd him by sinking his ship with his gravity or meteors. EZ GG
     
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  22. White Rabbit Yumi Carrotoid

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    We could put it this way too:

    He survived Neko + Inu during a 24/24 fight,

    He survived 2 admirals

    He survived an island sized trunk in his face...
     
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    Jack the drowned is going to drown one last time...
     
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    Dibs on his trunk
     
  25. TheOmega Real Nigga

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    Jack takin Ls against OGs.

    Kaido took Ls against OGs

    I think Oda's point with those guys isn't the point of being undefeated, it's the fall 7 times get up 8 mentality.

    It takes crazy shit to stop this guy and even then he's still not done.

    Don't just look at the score, look at the context of his performance.

    Jack is still gonna be strong as fuck. If he wasn't we woulda fought him right away instead of fighting fodder and warming up to him
     
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  26. Oberyn Nymeros Well-Known Member

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    No, Oda doesnt expect that. Luffy and Zoro are not afraid to challenge Jack and its quite clearl that Oda is intent in portraying Luffy as a Yonku First Mate caliber top tier fighter soooo
     
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    Jackk survived a battle agansit 2 Admirals and a Vice Admirals. He survived agansit Zunisha. And he could fight for 5 days long when the same cannot be said for Katakuri and Doflamingo.

    Jackk is very impressive, you just have an extremely poor grasp on One Piece power levels.
     
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    I would like to see Katakuri fight Duke and Neko while rotating shifts and some for four days days and nights non stop.

    Jack IS a monster.
     
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    Jack is already a loser. I hope Zoro blow him away
     
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    In my point of view, Jack stands right after BM, Kaido and Akainu in terms of durability
     
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