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Ominous Nebula is a 1 000 000 PL move?

Discussion in 'Nanatsu no Taizai' started by Keishin, Dec 24, 2018.

  1. Keishin

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    As we saw from 3TC Mael fight, stacking up on a stronger opponent with numbers can easily overpower them.

    Here we have an ability that would defeat everyone in the room at the same time, handling them all like pieces of meat provided that they don't stuck to walls and teleport around, and even teleporting was outsped once.
    Ominous Nebula was casually pulling and throwing anyone else except for
    The One
     
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    No matter how you trie to twist the manga, the One is still weaker than DK, SD and 5C Melodias (maybe even Kng, the OG demon and post purgatory ban for all we know
     
  3. Keishin

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    He's not. He's the invincible incarnation of power. No other NnT character has shown feats of The One's level while DK lost his arm to Mel and dropped to his knees by Ban.
     
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    Sure a human equipped with a fraction of the supreme deity power, who needed 6 page to overpower Zeldoris ominous nebula, is the strongest in the series because of an hyperbolic statement
     
  5. Keishin

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    The ONE has nothing to do with the SD's power, Sunshine (which he has as night Escanor as well) does.
     
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    Sure thing, sunshine works by becoming stronger the closer to noon it gets, but when it reaches noon, it's actually a totally different power :cat.

    You also didn't adresse how he struggled against Zeldis
     
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    :tiredpepe
     
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    No one knows how powerful The One is in comparison to other powerful characters as it has one shotted everyone that faced it, what we do know is that it’s weaker than the Gods ( SD and DK ) at their prime. Before you can say it’s weaker than anyone bar the Gods, you have to wait and see how powerful they are first.
     
  9. Keishin

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    Ominous Nebula is >>>>>>>Zeldris himself.
     
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    The One > Omnious Nebula >>>>>>> Zeldris.

    But please show me the proof that the One is different from sunshine
     
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    uhh Sunshine powers up by the Sun not freaking SD
     
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    Sunshine is a Grace that comes from SD. It originates from her regardless of how it powers up.
     
  13. Keishin

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    yes, and night escanor power comes from it? +0 PL
    The ONE > SD
     
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    ...what? :psyduck
     
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    Except for the fact that isn’t Zeldris was straight up resisting The One for a time with ON and managed to damage Escanor in that form.

    The OG demon is even stronger then Zeldris with ON and DK/SD multiple times stronger then him this notion of “ The one” being this invincible unstoppable entity died when Zeldris was able to resist/damage him.
     
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    AM Meliodas was one shotted by The One while he was holding back not to kill him, when he woke up,he went and stomped zeldris, which shows that the gap between AM Meliodas and Zeldris is too wide for zeldris too put up a fight and The One scales above that since he stomped that meliodas. So if The One which is stronger than AM Meliodas can be resisted for a while by ON and managed to injure him, then it would do worse to AM Meliodas since he is inferior to The One yet it won't change the fact that AM Meliodas is far stronger than zeldris. Except you have proof that the meliodas that fought zeldris is far stronger than the one that fought The One
    @Bold: The OG Demon is stronger than zeldris with ON likewise AM Meliodas and The One scales above that since he stomped AM Meliodas, so this does not proof OG Demon is stronger than The One.

    For the DK/SD Post: Where in my post did I remotely imply that The One is stronger or equal to DK/SD? This was what I said
    So wondering why you brought up DK/SD in this argument when I never implied that The One is equal to them:thinkchuu
     
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    The only characters that would no sell ON should be;

    DK/SD
    AM Mel
    OG Demon
    The One Escanor/Mael
    King

    and maybe even Ban considering his body got acostumbrated to Purgatory environment and pretty sure got a massive boost :riku

    AM Mel was stated to be stronger than The One Escanor by Zeldris after comparing both and was Mael equal in the past.

    Plus he was stated to be getting stronger after the fight.

    Mel was playing against Escanor that is confirmed by Merlin too in the fight and lost only because of his bad habit of underestimating strong opponents by Zeldris.

    Him powering-up doesn't change the fact that he wasn't serious or full power.
     
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    Mel was serious against the ONE.
    Chandler/Cusack said no one they know of is able to take on Ominous Nebula. The ONE could.
     
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    Mel wasn't serious against Escanor that is confirmed by Merlin and Zeldris and he was equal to Mael in the past who is obviously stronger than Escanor.

    They never said no one they know of is able to take on ON just that not "no creature exists should be able to reach Zeldris with it activated" by Cusack (CR translation)

    Statements like that are hyperbole just like The One Escanor "invincible incarnation of power" to hype.

    Demon King, Supreme Deity, AM Mel, The One Mael are above him.

    OG Demon should be too.

    PD: My last post about this :kittenpeek
     
  20. Keishin

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    Nah he was at full power, Zeldris never saw him take on The ONE.. he was amped and tried 1000 holy slashes but didn't manage to leave a scratch. Then he shouted in pain and lost to the ONE.
    Mael is not above Escanor The One form and never was.

    Yes, no one they know of is able to do that...

    No they are not. OG is having far more problems with noon Escanor than The ONE had with Ominous Nebula (amped by Demon King power)
     
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    It's irrelevant if Zeldris didn't saw Escanor vs Mel he has seen a serious Mel and confirmed he was stronger than The One Escanor.

    Merlin stated Mel was toying with Escanor in the fight too and he was getting stronger after the fight.

    Him powering-up doesn't change the fact that he was playing/toying and only lost because he of his bad habit of underestimating strong opponents.

    Escanor base PL is 5 while Mael is at least 88k it's easy to know which one will be stronger once they reach their peak.

    Only a Archangel can use a Grace to it's full potential with no drawback.

    So AM Mel and The One Mael are above him and above them are the gods Demong King and Supreme Deity.

    Escanor is the one having trouble while OG Demon is blocking everything and was disappointed.

    After that the OG Demon left Escanor on the ground with just a kick and would've killed him and Merlin if not for King.

    PD: This is truly my last post about this.

    Today is Christmas and I don't wanna waste precious time arguing/debating.

    Merry Xmas :kittenpeek
     
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  22. Keishin

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    Mel wasn't toying around when he facded the ONE at all. And Escanor Tanked multiple attacks from OG demon...
    88k pl difference mean nothing to
    The ONE

    That's what this thread is about. 1 000 000 PL Ominous Nebula... taking on 200k's like nothing.

    Yes, X mas. It was her eyesterday though not on 25th but ys
     
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    Your entire post is based on the flat out wrong assumption that AM Meliodas is stronger then Zeldris without using his original magic power when Zeldris has flat out better feats then AM does he did what Meliodas couldn’t and actually able to damage Escanor and was able to resist his attacks all things that AM Meliodas failed to do and he was able to render Ludociel who has 200k PL entirely helpless with ON.

    Meliodas doesn’t have any counters to Ominous and Nebula either as we’ve seen beings far stronger then him unable to break through it Meliodas needs to use his original magic power to beat Zeldris with ON.

    So AM Meliodas doesn’t get scaling that puts him above Zeldris and the OG demon as he has worse feats and the version of “The One” that Escanor he fought put in less effort against him then it did against Zeldris.
     
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    Dude we saw how fast AM Meliodas stomped zeldris, even zeldris accepted that he was inferior to meliodas, if he believed he will have beaten meliodas if he used OM then he would have but he didn't cause he knew it won't be enough to beat him
    True thanks to OM, which will wound Meliodas too but it won't change the fact that meliodas will still break it and overpower it in the end.
    AM Meliodas is far above 200 PL as he stomped zeldris who is above that and stomped the second strongest form of escanor like nothing. You are implying if zeldris used OM he would have beaten AM Meliodas which is not the case as zeldris himself admitted inferiority to him, if OM would have worked he would have tried it except you think zeldris would rather submit the throne of the DK to someone weaker than him
    Meliodas will use brute force to overpower it, this dude literally stomped zeldris who said even with the DK powers he could not prevent meliodas from stomping him. You are yet assuming ludo is stronger than AM meliodas when zeldris is on par or even stronger than ludo yet meliodas stomped him
    He does not need scaling when he has the feats of literally stomping zeldris in the manga
    No doubt OG Demon is stronger than AM Meliodas likewise zeldris. How can you say meliodas is not stronger than zeldris when he literally stomped him lol
     
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    Ominous Nebula is way above Zeldris himself with god and 2nd demon mark activated (which also powers ON)
     
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    i can guarantee 5 commandments mel will be above ominous nebula and that isn't even half of demon king's power since we know its only all 10 that equates to half his power

    he and supreme deity casually smite ominous nebula and the one
     
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    merlin's quote is hyperbole at this segment of the story
     
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    Garbage-ass clickbait title for a real shitty Keishin thread, classic.
     
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    Wanking Ominous Nebula so that the One could look better...
    The Gods are>the One
    Stay mad Kenshit :mjlol
     
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    You're utterly wrong, dear friend. The way Meliodas talked about his OG Magic with his father in Purgatory makes it clear that he ceased to use his OG Magic long time ago because it was EXTREMELY dangerous. Zeldris admitted that Meliodas is way stronger than him and the One Escanor, and we know that Meliodas would never use that extremely dangerous magic on his lil bro whom he deeply cares for. Thus, Meliodas (without his OG Magic) >>>>> Zeldris.
     
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