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OPBD Tournament: Bartolomeo vs Apoo

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by Soca, May 15, 2018.

  1. Soca The Mud and the Oil Super Moderator

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  2. Samehadaman Well-Known Member

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    Barrier isn't soundproof. :skully
     
  3. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    Just by knowing that Apoo is SN who most definitely going to be in M3 territory in terms of power is enough to declare him winner of this fight.
    So yeah he wins.
     
  4. Soca The Mud and the Oil Super Moderator

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    You gotta use feats in these matchups.
     
  5. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    But Post TS Apoo is featless.
    We can't evaluate him unless we do powerscaling. :hmm
     
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    That's why we've been using pre-skip apoo.
     
  7. Milkydean Well-Known Member

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    Bartolomeo wins quite easily tbh,Apoo doesn't have feats to match Bartolomeo yet.
     
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    These two are both heavy ability users, and it seems to me that Apoo wins.

    Bartolomeo's barriers don't block sound, while Apoo's attacks propagate via sound. He should be able to bypass Bartolomeo's barriers via indirect attack unless Bartolomeo can modulate his barrier to be sound proof.
     
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    This is pre-skip Apoo. Dude who didn't defeat/hurt anyone with intention to fight. Bartolomeo Barrier-crashes him.
     
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    I can see a good argument being made for both of those characters winning that match up in my opinion. I'm not sure why Supernovas in the same rank as Luffy often get automatically ranked superior to any other Supernovas. Obviously on average those Supernovas are superior to most other Supernovas. However it's not like top ranked Supernovas from other ranks can't be on par with the lowest ranked Supernovas in the same rank as Luffy. :p
     
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    Oh snap, didn't realize this in the other Apoo thread. :O

    If it's pre skip Apoo I'm giving this to Bart.
     
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    You gotta mention that in OP man because I have been using Post TS versions of everybody in entire tournament. :psyduck
     
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    Preskip vs postskip doesn't really matter that much. They both rely heavily on their devil fruits and neither has shown Haki.
     
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    Apoo's DF attack that dismantles people seems plenty enough to defeat Bartolomeo if it lands, he hasn't shown haki to tank it or any ability to counter it's effects (like being logia or having some body manipulation DF).
    I do believe Bartolomeo may be overall a stronger fighter (than preskip version Apoo) but this is a nightmare matchup for him, his barrier is irrelevant as a defense as far as Apoo's attacks go. And they both rely heavily on DF.

    Bartolomeo's initial approach to every battle is to use the barrier to see what's up and bait attacks, and Apoo when we saw him opened with the sound attack. This is obviously terrible news for Bartolomeo.

    It's a turtle defense focused DF user against a glass cannon DF user, except in these specific abilities the turtle defense is naturally useless.
    So in this case matchup gives Apoo the win in my opinion.
     
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    Apoo hard counters his barriers ..attacks that spawn directly onto their targets like apoo or robin are the dread of baartolomeo ..apoo wins imo unless the speed difference is so huge that bart can blitz him ..which I doubt..either pre/post skip apoo barely have feats though ..strange matchup
     
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    Apoo's a bad matchup for Bart
     
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    Apoo wins using the same trick he used on Kizaru.
     
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    Will go for Apoo, because we don't know how to counter Apoo's DF since its a noise based DF.
     
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    Apoo.

    As stated already this is a bad matchup for Bart. A guy who has an ability to circumvent his most prominent ability.
     
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    Again, how long does it take to Apoo to use his soundbomb attack? Do you think that in real duel anyone will just stand here and wait like Kizaru did? He won't even have chance to use his DF. And even if, what prevents Barto from creating barrier bubble to hide right before each attack?
     
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    That's what Bartolomeo has done in his every fight so far. Relying on the barrier.
     
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    Apoo is also an martial artist who should be expected to have some agility if he knows his opponent has a barrier ability. As Fukasaku and Shima proved over in Naruto, the nice thing about sound attacks is they don't require line of sight to connect.
     
  23. Typhon "The Roaring Tide"

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    Apoo has shown no problem entering cqc range with Eustass Kidd twice now in the story.

    I disagree that Bart is fast enough to just stop him from using his powers. And you act like Apoo is stationary when playing music.
     
  24. charles101 Well-Known Member

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    Read first post - "both serious". He won't playing around like he was in colosseum. He was serious against Gladius.

    Can you provide panels of that? Especially 2nd one.

    It's just ridiculous. At this point you should be happy that Apoo counters Marco's regeneration too. Maybe he will win the whole tournament.
     
  25. Typhon "The Roaring Tide"

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    Chapter 498 and 677. I don't do pages after the update
    I don't get if you're trying to be funny or not. Marco obviously has ways of dealing with Apoo.
     
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