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Orihime (Bleach) vs Lucy (Fairy Tail)

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by Artist, Jul 14, 2019.

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  1. Artist

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    All characters are in character and at their best with their own unique weapons, armor, skills, powers, & abilities included no outside help. This fight takes place in the Soul Society. Who wins?

     
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    is it 2027 already

    :mjlol

    edit: seriously, does Orihime have any notable offense?
     
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    Lucy via CSK
     
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    she put on way too much weight by the end of the series does that count?
    Kubo likes em THICC :dotell
     
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    Nope. Orihime's only significant offence is a barrier which redirects attacks at her, and even that looked non-lethal. And her best feast was redirecting a fairly casual attack from Fullbring Ginjo.

    Lucy doesn't even need CSK. She could probably figure out that Orihime's powers come from the hairpin and break them with Sagittarius. Lucy has the edge in DC, Speed, combat experience and battle intelligence. The only thing Orihime has going for her is her barrier, but even that can be bypassed or exhausted over time.
     
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    don't think lucy has an edge in speed, but everything else is fair.
     
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    She killed a basic hollow that was dumb and totally underestimated her. That's not notable compared to some of the attacks that Lucy has survived.
     
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    Lucy wont survive that
    that attack creates the barrier and rejects to both sides
    cutting her in half by rejecting
     
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    Are we just going to ignore the fact that Orihime was blocking attacks, even casual ones from Lord Moustache Soul King Yhwach? Attacks powerful enough to harm EoS Ichigo I might add. I mean I agree that it was fucking dumb that she was suddenly able to block top tiers out of nowhere, but it still happened.

    Not to mention that the only reason her offence isn't as good as her defence, is because of her lack of killing intent. This is established as early as the Soul Society arc. A bloodlusted Orihime's not going to have that issue.

    So yeah, Lucy is pretty much fucked AFAIK
     
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  11. Aduro

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    If Orihime had ever successfully landed a hit with that on anything but fodder with that. Or used reject offensively to damage anything but fodder.
    Tsubaki needs to penetrate the enemy to break their body apart and he doesn't remotely have the feats for that. Not to mention he's easily broken. In chapter 91, Orihime tried to use that technique it was casually countered by a low-seated officer. Later it was very casually crushed by Yammy's bare hands in his unreleased form.
    It absolutely doesn't ignore conventional durability.

    Bloodlusting doesnt' negate the fact that Orihime has absolutely no relevant offensive feats whatsoever. Orihime's barrier can't actually hurt Lucy. Her role against Ywach was purely defensive. She can only sit there behind her shields and wait for Lucy to find away around them.
     
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    This is EoS orihime after urahara training and powerful will to fight.
    Rejection is rejection it's one ability used in many ways.
     
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    Except it does, Jirobo and Uryu both point out the fact that the reason Orihime's attacks are weak, is because she lacks killing intent. Her powers are based on her will so if she can't bring herself to hurt someone, her attacks are going to suck. Being bloodlusted completely negates that issue.

    So just to be clear here, if she's powerful enough to block even casual attacks from Lord Moustache, there is absolutely fucking nothing to stop a Bloodlusted Orihime putting the same amount of power into her offence because that is how her powers work.

    Lucy is fucked, plain and simple.
     
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    Mashima(master of the pencil) vs Kubo?

    Tittes und ass vs tittes und ass?
     
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    Orihime, funnily enough, scales to a casual Yhwach and Ichigo who are now continent level. She could take a shit on FT as a whole since shes several times faster than all of them
     
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    Rejection was rejection when that seated officer totally non-sold it. She has never practiced or developed the skills to use it lethally. If this was Orihime vs. Kenpachi you wouldn't be arguing that she could cut him in half.

    She can block attacks from Ywach but splitting an opponent in half with her shields is an entire different skill. Tsubaki explicitly needs to stab into an enemy before raising its shields and pushing them apart. He can't do that against an opponent who has taken hits from the likes of Jackal and Jacob.
     
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    we dont go by BoS low tier feats
    - bringing back a person who was missing everything above her legs
    - reflecting ginjo and making him bleed
    - stopping uryus arrows
    - constantly stopping yhwach
    ...
     
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    You brought in the BoS low-tier feat because you know its the only offensive feat Orihime has LOL.

    The reflecting technique only works with as much damage as the attacker puts into them and even then just disperses the attack. Its not like she used it to damage Ywach.
    Nor would Lucy take damage if an attack was redirected at her summoned spirit or necessarily even from a long range attack from Lucy herself. Lucy isn't going to slam herself into it when she has abilities which are good for catching the highly unskilled Orihime off-guard.

    The rest, once again, did not do damage to anyone.
     
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    A different skill that is fuelled by the same power source (ie Orihime). :facepalm

    Again, it is specifically mentioned MULTIPLE TIMES (including by Tsubaki himself) that Orihime's offence is weak because she lacks killing INTENT, not because she lacks the power to do it.

    Being bloodlusted gives her the killing intent she ordinarily lacks, thus eliminating the factor that normally hinders her offence (her pacifism). In such a scenario, there is no reason why her attacks would be any weaker than her defence.

    So yeah, if she can block Lord Moustache's attacks, bloodlusted Tsubaki is casually cutting through anything short of Bleach top tiers.
     
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    She can easily kill Lucy with that BoS ability with EoS feats...
     
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    This is the OBD. Not your livejournal. She never trained or developed the ability to use it offensively. For the third time of saying this. Tsubaki explicitely needs to pierce the opponent, then make shields using the reject power. That's the part where Koten Zanshun always screws up. It doesn't have the power to pierce through Lucy.

    The fact that she didn't intend to kill anyone doesn't suddenly mean that she can kill anyone she can block if she wants to.

    If she'd had any EoS feats with that ability. Or an offensive ability that was acually good. Sure.
     
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    So you dont know what youre talking about then? Okay
     
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    So much quality :tupac
     
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    Her powers are based on her WILL you moron, this is established in-verse with multiple characters (including her own spirits) confirming as much.

    This applies to both her defensive AND offensive abilities. If she made a shield but lacked the will to protect anything then it would be the same result, her defence would suck just as bad as her offence does in canon.

    Both abilities are fuelled by her will/reiatsu. The only reason her defence has better feats is because of her lack of killing INTENT. Being bloodlusted removes this issue, ergo making her attacks AT LEAST as strong as her shields.
    Except that's exactly what it fucking means.

    This is the equivalent of arguing bloodlusted Sanji loses to any female character, because he wont hit a woman in-character. Orihime's attacks are only inferior to her shields because of her in-character lack of killing intent. Neither of these issues exist in scenarios where the characters are blooodlusted.
     
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    You know what, fuck this I'm out of here.

    I don't care enough to argue for Bleach at the best of times, I'm sure as fuck not going to waste anymore time arguing against downplay of ORIHIME of all characters.
     
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    I'm just gonna go ahead and save this one for some other occasion :dotell
     
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    Yeah, I was going to say, Orihime shields withstood attacks from Ywach. Dont matter whether people like it or not, her shields are op in the bleach world. Plus she has that cancelling events thing, which if I'm honest dont remember all the details to right now.

    I think Hime wins this battle 7-8/10 times.
     
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    If you reread the two times where she actually used the attack the first time it worked the second time it didn't because SHE hesitated NOT because it couldn't get the job done. You're just in denial
     
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    Orihime can wall out Lucy and IF she gets an attack off its over but Lucy isn't getting in to hit her
     
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    :doggokek Pretty sure Orihime can suffocate even Acnologia to death with those barriers. Lucy who?
     
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