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Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Troyse22, Aug 10, 2018.

  1. Troyse22 Tailed Beast Without a Tail

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  2. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

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    The characters in each tier aren’t being ranked against each other, but that doesn’t mean they are equals either.

    Spoiler: Entry S Rank Level
    Asuma
    Yamato
    Sai
    Fu
    Torune
    WA Shikamaru
    WA Ino
    WA Lee
    WA Neji
    WA Temari
    WA Kankuro
    Jugo
    Suigetsu


    Spoiler: Peak Jonin level
    Part One Kakashi
    Part One Kabuto
    Zabuza
    Hidan
    WA Choji
    BoS Naruto
    FKS Darui


    Spoiler: Entry Kage
    Hokage Kakashi
    Rasa
    Mifune
    Chiyo
    Konan
    War Arc Darui with Treasures
    Kitsuchi



    Spoiler: Low Kage
    Part Two Kakashi
    Wind Arc Naruto
    Gai
    Kisame
    Deidara
    Kakazu
    Kage Summit Gaara
    Start of Part Two Sasuke
    Mei
    K4



    Spoiler: Mid Kage
    Tsunade
    War Arc Sakura
    Orochimaru (no ET)
    Onoki
    Old Hiruzen
    Sasori
    3rd Raikage
    4th Raikage
    Hebi Sasuke
    End of War Arc Gaara
    Wild Hachibi



    Spoiler: High Kage
    Itachi (sick)
    MS Sasuke
    SM Naruto
    Jiraiya
    Kin (with tools)
    Gin (with tools)
    Killer Bee
    3rd Raikage with Pot
    Muu
    Gengetsu



    Spoiler: Top of conventional power structure

    50% Kyuubi
    Minato
    Prime Hiruzen
    Tobirama
    Prime Hanzo
    Pein
    MS Danzo
    SM Kabuto (no ET)
    MS Obito
    Edo Itachi
    EMS Sasuke (Kabuto fight)
    KCM Naruto (initial)



    Spoiler: Beyond conventional power structure


    Edo Nagato with Hachibi Chakra
    KCM Minato
    KCM2 Naruto
    Wild 100% Kyuubi
    Guruguru with Yamato



    Spoiler: “Demi God Tier”


    Rinnegan Obito (no Paths)
    BM Naruto
    EMS Sasuke(Jubito fight)


    Spoiler: Upper Demi-God Tier
    Post Juubito EMS Sasuke
    BSM Naruto
    BM Minato


    Spoiler: Founder (God) Tier
    VoTE Hashirama
    Edo Hashirama
    Edo Madara
    VoTE Madara
    Rinnegan Obito (with Paths)


    Spoiler: Transition tier
    One eyed SM Madara
    Kabuto (with ET)
    Orochimaru (with ET)


    Spoiler: Juubi Jin Tier
    Juubito
    One eyed JJ Madara
    Toneri


    Spoiler: Next tier
    JJ Madara (post tree absorption)
    Naruto (Post Rikudo Chakra)
    Sasuke (Post Rikudo Chakra)


    Spoiler: Infinite Tsukuyomi Tier
    Triclops Madara
    Hagoromo


    Spoiler: Top Tier
    Kaguya
    Momoshiki
     
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  3. WorldsStrongest Umu

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    Anyone you have in that tier would beat 3 Prime Hiruzens
     
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  4. ARGUS The conqueror

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    Tiers not in order
    Spoiler:
    Tier 0:
    Kaguya

    Tier 1:
    Jin hagoromo
    TCM hamura

    Tier 2:
    Hagoromo
    Hamura
    Prime Madara

    TIer 3:
    DR JJ madara
    Adult Naruto
    VOTE naruto
    VOTE Sasuke
    Fused Momoshiki

    Tier 4:
    Momoshiki
    Adult Sasuke
    RSM naruto

    Tier 5:
    Rinnegan Sasuke
    Shinju Madara 1RG
    Ashura
    Indra

    Tier 6:
    Juubito

    Tier 7:
    8G Guy
    DMS Kakashi
    VOTE madara
    SM Hashirama

    Tier 8:
    Edo madara
    EMS madara
    RT madara
    Edo Hashirama
    Toneri

    Tier 9:
    BM Minato
    BSM Naruto
    Rinnegan Obito w/bijuu
    BM Naruto

    Tier 10:
    Kinshiki
    EMS Sasuke

    Tier 11:
    Nagato

    Tier 12:
    DSM Kabuto
    Pein
    Early EMS Sasuke
    KCSM Naruto
    KCM Minato
    Edo Itachi
    Edo Tobirama
    Killer Bee
    KCM naruto

    Tier 13:
    Living Itachi
    Minato
    Tobirama
    MS Sasuke
    SM naruto
    Third Raikage
    7G Guy
    War arc Kakashi
    Muu
    Gengetsu
    SM Jiraiya
    Ay
    Kisame
    Gaara
    Danzo
    Onoki
    Orochimaru

    Tier 14:
    Tsunade
    Deidara
    Hiruzen
    Sasori
    Kakuzu
    Mei
    Hanzo
    Sakura


    Tier 15:
    the rest goes on, ill go into further detail later on

     
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  5. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    Where would you place

    Darui
    DMS Kakashi
    8th Gate Gai
     
  6. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

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    Before Boruto, Entry Level Kage.

    Don’t know.

    I don’t give 8th Gate Gai his own level anymore than I give C0 Deidara or Shiki Fujin Minato their own level.
     
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  7. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough. Assuming the same goes with Oro with ET
     
  8. Bonly Tailless Tailed Beast

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    Mine is pretty much the same from September though a character or two might have been moved that I was too lazy to do this time around

    Spoiler:
    God Tier

    Kaguya
    The Sage(Juubi Jin)
    Juubi Jin Madara
    Six Paths Naruto
    Rinnegan Sasuke
    Juubi Jin Obito
    Eighth Gate Gai/Double MS Kakashi

    Top Tier

    Orochi
    Kabuto
    Edo Madara
    Hashi
    VotE Madara
    Edo Minato
    Rinnegan Obito
    BSM Naruto
    BM Naruto
    EMS Sasuke
    Nagato

    High Kage level
    MS Obito
    Pain
    Danzo
    Itachi/Minato
    Killer B/KCM Naruto
    SM Naruto(War arc)/Kabuto(no Edo)
    The Sannin(no Edo)/Tobi
    Onoki

    Mid Kage level

    Danzo(No Koto)
    MS Sasuke/SM Naruto(Kage summit)
    The French Dude
    Mu
    Sandaime Raikage
    Sasori
    Kisame/Konan
    Gaara
    Kakuzu
    Deidara
    Mei
    Kakashi/Gai
    A
    Rasa
    Chiyo

    Low Kage level
    Hokage Kakashi/ Old Hiruzen
    Mifune/Rusty Hanzo
    Hidan
    Healthy Kimi
    Darui
    Kitsuchi
     
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  9. ThomasTheCat Wannabe Battledomer, Less Active Than Preferred

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  10. Eliyua23 Well-Known Member

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    1. Kaguya
    2. Momoshiki
    3. Hagoromo
    4. Hamura
    5. Jigen

    6. Naruto(Boruto)
    7. Sasuke(Boruto)
    8. Madara(Juubi)
    9. Naruto(The Last)
    10. Sasuke(The Last)
    11. Toneri
    12. Ashura
    13. Indra
    14. Obito(Juubi)
    15. Naruto(VOTEII)
    16. Sasuke(VOTEII)
    17. Toneri

    18. Kinshiki
    19. Hashirama
    20. Madara(EMS/Edo)
    21. Obito(Rinnegan)

    22. Naruto(Juubito Fight)
    23. Minato(Juubito Fight)
    24. Sasuke(Juubito Fight)
    25. Kabuto(War Arc)
    26. Orochimaru(Boruto)

    27. Minato(Kurama Attack)
    28. Obito(Kages Arc)
    29. Naruto(War Arc)
    30. Nagato(War Arc)
    31. Gaara(Boruto
    32. Itachi(War Arc)
    33. Sasuke(War Arc)
    34. Nagato(6 Paths of Pain)
    35. Hiruzen(2nd War)
    36. Sakura(Boruto)
    37. Shin
    38. Danzo
    39. Kashin Koji
    40. Hanzo(2nd War)
    41. Kushina

    42. Jiraiya
    43. Itachi(Uchiha Bros Arc)
    44. Naruto(Kages Arc)
    45. Sasuke(Kages Arc)
    46. Tobirama
    47. Izuna Uchiha
    48. Shisui Uchiha
    49. Fugaku Uchiha(Novel)
    50. Killer Bee

    51. Orochimaru(Konoha Crush)/Spiral
    52. Tsunade/Sakura(War)
    53. Onoki
    54. Genjutsu
    55. Mu
    56. Gaara(War)
    57. Darui(Boruto)
    58. Onoki Granddaughter(Boruto)
    59. Raikage(4th)
    60. Raikage (3rd)
    61. Kakashi(Prime)
    61. Konohamaru(Boruto)
    62. Choujiro(Boruto)
    63. Mei
    64. Sasori
    65. Rasa
    66. Naruto(Immortals)
    67. Sasuke(Uchiha Brothers)
    68. Kakashi(Pain Arc)
    69. Gai
    70. Kisame
    71. Kakuzu
    72. Deidara
    73. Shikamaru(Adult)
    74. Konan
    75. Adult Rookies(Lee , Chouji , Hinata, Ino , Kiba)

    76. AO(Boruto)
    77. Hidan
    78. Kawaki
    79. Boruto
    80. Mitsuki
    81. Sarada
    82. Asuma
    83. Mifune
    84. Hanzo(Rusty)
    85. Chiyo
    86. Zabuza
    87. Kimmimaro
    88. War Arc Rookies/Taka
    89. Zetsu
    90. Yammato
     
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  11. Maverick04 Susanoo's nose is a waste of Chakra

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    Spoiler: God Tier

    High God Tier:
    Kaguya
    Haguromo*
    Momoshiki (After eating Kinshiki)
    Madara (3 Eyed)

    Mid God Tier:
    Naruto
    Sasuke
    Kakashi (Rikudou amped DMS)
    Obito (JJ)

    Low God Tier:
    Hamura*
    Toneri
    Ashura*
    Indra*
    Might Guy



    Spoiler: Pseudo God Tier

    Kabuto (DSM + Edo Tensei Summons)
    Orochimaru (WA Hokage Summons)
    Urashiki
    Kinshiki
    Hashirama (SM)
    Minato (Edo BM)
    Kurama


    Spoiler: Kage + Tier

    Nagato (Edo)
    Kabuto (DSM)
    Killer Bee (BM)
    Gaara (Adult)
    Tobirama
    Itachi (Edo)
    Spiral Zetsu*
    Muu / Gengetsu
    Hiruzen (Prime)*
    Onoki
    A3 / Gyuuki
    SM Jiraiya
    Son Goku / Kokuo
    Hanzo (Prime)
    Kin and Gin


    Spoiler: Kage Tier

    High Kage:
    Orochimaru (Zetsu Body + Hydra)
    Danzo
    Shisui*
    A4
    Yagura
    Saiken
    Kisame (Merged With Samehada)
    Sakura (Adult)
    Tsunade

    Mid Kage:
    Roshi
    Kakuzu
    Mei
    Sasori
    Deidara
    Chomei
    3rd Kazekage

    Low Kage:
    Rasa
    Kushina*
    Shukaku
    Isobu
    Fuu / Utakata / Yugito / Han
    Matatabi
    Konan
    Darui / Kurotsuchi / Chojuro
    Chiyo
    Rock Lee
    Mifune
    Suigetsu / Mangetsu
    Kitsuchi
    Hidan


    Spoiler: Jonin Tier

    High Jonin:
    Kimimaro (Edo CS2 Hypothetical)
    Choji (Adult)
    Choza
    Ao (With Ninja tools)
    Karin (Chains)
    Pakura
    Yamato
    Hiashi / Hizashi
    Gari
    Dodoi (WA)
    Zabuza
    Asuma

    Mid Jonin:
    Neji (War Arc)
    Rest of the Swordsmen
    Juugo (V2)
    Sai (Adult)
    Konohamaru (Adult)
    Shinki
    Mitsuki (SM)
    Shino (Adult)
    Shikamaru (Adult) / Shikaku
    Temari / Konkuro (Adults)
    Foo / Torune

    Low Jonin:
    Hanabi (Adult)
    Hinata (Adult)*
    Kiba (Adult)*
    Haku
    Kagura
    Akatsuchi
    TenTen (Adult)
    Ino (Adult) / Inoichi
    Genma / Raido / Aoba
    Anko / Baki / Ibiki
    Omoi / Karui / Samui
    Hayate
    Moegi / Udon (Adult)
    Ebisu


    Spoiler: Chuunin Tier

    Sakon and Ukon
    Tayuya / Kidomaru
    Jirobo
    Izumo / Kotetsu
    Boruto
    Metal Lee (With Gates)
    Mirai
    Sarada
    Araya
    Shikadai
    Chocho
    Iwabe
    Yodo
    Inojin


    * --> Not sure
     
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    Rikudo/god tier:
    Kaguya
    Hagoromo
    *hamura
    Juubidara
    Fused momoshiki
    Juubi obito
    Rsm naruto/rinnegan sasuke
    *Indra/ashura
    Toneri
    Momoshiki
    Kinshiki
    Rinnegan madara
    Dms kakashi
    Gate of death guy


    legendary tier:
    Orochimaru w/edo
    Bsm naruto
    Hashirama
    Rinnegan obito
    Ems madara(w/kurama)
    Nagato


    Top tier:
    Bm minato
    Bm naruto~Byakugo sakura~Ems sasuke
    Adult gaara
    Sm kabuto
    Kcm1 naruto
    Ms obito
    6pop


    High kage tier:
    Adult kurotsuchi
    Adult chojuro
    Ms sasuke~Sm naruto
    Alive Minato
    Itachi
    Killa bee
    sannin w/o edo
    Tobirama
    Danzo
    Mu~Gengetsu
    Onoki
    Konan
    A4~A3


    Mid kage tier:
    Sasori
    7th Gate Gai~WA Kakashi,
    Hiruzen
    Mei
    Hebi sasuke
    WA sai
    Kisame
    Deidara
    6th gate Gai
    6th gate lee
    Bm choji
    WA gaara
    Kakuzu
    Kushina (w/chains)
    Kitsuchi
    WA Karin(w/chains)
    Rasa


    Low kage tier:
    Wind naruto
    WA neji/hiashi
    3ts kakashi/3ts itachi
    Wa Tenten with elemental fan/6path weaponery
    Kimmimaro
    dariu/mifune
    Bos sakura
    Chiyo
    Yamato
    WA temari
    WA kankuro
    Hidan
    WA Asuma
    Suigetsu


    Jonin class:
    P1 kakashi
    Bos naruto(w/o kyuubi)
    Zabuza/haku
    Bos sai
    Jugo
    P1 kurenai
    P1 Asuma
    WA hinata
     
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  13. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    Kakashi and Gai are situational placements. It's not like they can be placed without restrictions.

    Kamui was going to end several Bijuu armed with TBBs at once (if at full strength) and Gai can go god tier whenever he needs to.

    Name another low kage - Mid Kage with those options in their capabilities ?
     
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    It's a rough draft. Gaara, Tsunade, Sakura, tier 4 and tier 6 were hard to rank.


    Tier 7
    47. Hidan
    46. Rasa
    45. Chiyo
    44. Konan
    43. Wind Arc Naruto


    Tier 6
    42. Mei
    41. Kakuzu
    40. Deidara
    39. Sasori
    38. Kisame
    37. Gai
    36. Kakashi
    35. War Arc Sakura
    34. Tsunade
    33. Hebi Sasuke
    32. Gaara (War arc)
    31. 4th Raikage
    30. 3rd Raikage


    Tier 5
    29. Onoki
    28. Orochimaru
    27. Mū
    26. Gengetsu
    25. Jiraiya
    24. Sennin Naruto
    23. MS Sasuke
    22. Danzo


    Tier 4
    21. Tobirama
    20. Itachi
    19. Killer Bee
    18. MS Obito
    17. KCM Naruto
    16. EMS Sasuke (Kabuto fight)
    15. Minato
    14. SM Kabuto


    Tier 3
    13. Nagato
    12. EMS Sasuke (Jūbito fight)
    11. Bijū Mode Minato
    10. Bijū Mode Naruto


    Tier 2
    9. EMS Madara
    8. Rinnegan Obito (with Jinchūriki)
    7. Edo Madara
    6. Hashirama


    Tier 1
    5. Jūbito
    4. Rikūdo Sasuke
    3. Rikūdo Naruto


    Tier 0
    2. Jūbi Jinchūriki Madara
    1. Kaguya
     
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    Tiers are more or less in order. Strongest to weakest within each tier. List doesnt necessarily account for every individual matchup tho. Thats impossible the further down you get toward Kage tiers (Tiers 3-5) and lower where that kind of shit is really important, so just because X is above Y in Tier 4, doesnt necessarily mean X cant beat Y provided the gap isnt huge. For instance...No one is climbing a full damn tier and beating someone within it because "matchup". Tried my best to include matchups as much as possible when placing anyone above someone else. Higher tiers are much easier to rank on power alone as sheer force makes matchups moot.

    "/" indicates borderline interchangeability or no real difference

    Tier 0
    • Kaguya
    • Hagoromo
    • Hamura
    • JJ Madara
    • Fused Momoshiki
    • Adult Naruto/Adult Sasuke
    • Teen RSM Naruto
    • Teen Rinnegan Sasuke
    • Kinshiki
    • Toneri
    • JJ Obito
    • DMS Kakashi
    • 8 Gate Gai
    Tier 1
    • Rinnegan RT Madara (Both Eyes, Pre JJ)
    • Hashirama
    • VOTE Madara
    • Edo Madara
    • BM Minato
    • BSM Naruto
    • Rinnegan Obito (with Jins)
    • EMS Sasuke (Juubito fight)
    Tier 2

    *I question the need of this tier due to virtually no one being in it, but those within it are simply too powerful to be clumped in with the guys below them, and simply too weak to compete with the tier above..Hence this
    • Nagato
    • SM Kabuto
    Tier 3
    • Pain
    • EMS Sasuke (Kabuto fight)
    • Living Minato
    • Tobirama
    • KCM Naruto
    • WA SM naruto
    • Mu
    • Itachi/MS Sasuke/Pre war SM Naruto
    • Ohnoki
    • Killer Bee (AT LEAST here...Unsure on solid placement tho. Refer to end of tier list for complications...I actually find Bee to be one of the hardest characters to place)
    • Gengetsu
    • Danzo
    Tier 4
    • AAA
    • AAAA
    • Jman
    • Oro
    • Deidara
    • Gaara
    • Hebi Sasuke
    • Tsunade/War Arc Sakura
    • WA Kakashi
    • Gai (8th Gate Restricted)
    • Sasori
    • Kisame
    • Kakuzu
    • Mei

    Tier 5
    • BoS Sasuke
    • Hiruzen
    • Konan
    • Darui
    • Rasa/Sandaime Kazekage
    • Chiyo
    • Mifune
    Tier 6
    • Pre war Kakashi
    • Wind Naruto
    • Suigetsu
    • Jugo
    • Zabuza
    • Yamato
    • Hidan
    • Part 1 Kabuto
    • Healthy Kimimaro
    Tier 7
    • War Choji
    • Asuma
    • War Neji
    • War Lee
    • Temari
    • Kankuro
    • Kurenai
    Tier 8
    • BOS Naruto
    • Sai
    • Gated Part 1 Lee
    • SRA Gaara
    • Sick Kimimaro
    Tier 9
    • VOTE 1 Sasuke
    • VOTE 1 Naruto
    • Part 1 Neji
    • Sound 4 (Individually)
    Tier 10
    • Pre VOTE Sasuke
    • Pre VOTE Naruto
    • Part 1 Temari
    • Part 1 Shikamaru
    • Part 1 Shino
    • Part 1 Kiba
    Tier 11
    • Tonton
    • Part 1 Konohamaru Ninja Squad
    • The Dirt
    • The worms inside of the dirt
    • Human feces
    • Part 1 Sakura

    On Killer Bee...Unsure where exactly to put him, most people in Tier 3 (where he is tentatively placed) have techniques that make his BM state more of a liability than a strength. Such as Jinton or Amaterasu or FTG. Naruto also has feats of wrestling a Biju stronger than Gyuki. But Bees sheer power advantage he holds over literally everyone in Tier 3, and the ease with which he can output that power...His BM state almost merits he be bumped up an entire tier with Nagato and Kabuto in Tier 2.
     
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  17. Gianfi Well-Known Member

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    People not in order within tiers (only strongest form included):

    Upper Deity Level:
    Kaguya
    Hagoromo
    Momoshiki
    Madara
    Naruto
    Sasuke

    Lower Deity Level:
    Obito
    Toneri
    Kinshiki
    The fisher man Otsuki
    God Kakashi
    8th Gate

    Demi-God Level:
    BM Minato
    Hashirama
    Nagato
    Dsm Kabuto
    Orochi w/ET

    Legendary Level:
    Pain
    Tobirama
    Itachi
    Killer Bee
    Onoki
    SM Jiraya
    Mu
    A3
    Gengetsu
    Adult Gaara
    Danzo

    Upper Kage Level
    Adult Darui
    Tsunade
    Adult Sakura
    A4
    3rd Kamikaze
    Sasori
    Kisame
    Deidara
    Kakuzu
    Yagura
    Hiruzen
    Hanzo
    GuruGuru
    Adult Lee

    Lower Kage Level:
    Mei
    Mifune
    Konan
    Rasa
    Most of unknown Kage
    Chiyo
    Adult Chojuro
    Adult Kurotsuchi

    Upper Jonin Level:
    Hidan
    Asuma
    Kimimaro
    Choji
    Neji
    Shikamaru
    Kurenai
    Temari
    Yamato
    Kankuro

    Etc
     
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  18. Sage light Well-Known Member

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    Itachi. Totsuka and Tsukiyomi. HQ bypassing illusion technique.

    Those are 3 "God" tier moves in the arsenal of a "High Kage" level Individual.
     
  19. Troyse22 Tailed Beast Without a Tail

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    What's the difference?

    Also on an unrelated note, how many psychedelic drugs did you ingest to reach the conclusion that KCM Naruto>Bee

    Or Pein>Bee

    Or Hebi Sasuke above the Masters and Kisame?

    Bee is cleanly above literally everyone in the tier you have him posted in, that's not a biased opinion, that's fact.
     
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    Pain stomps bee, his chakra cloak won't work on the chakra absorber, also SM Jiraya stated he couldn't take 3 of them at once, never mind 6. And the deva path is on a whole new tier than the rest of them he took on a 6 tails tb state kyuubi which was the strongest. And there's the revival path for more annoyance.
     
  21. WorldsStrongest Umu

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    I didnt reach a conclusion on Bee PERIOD kiddo

    Read my post FOR ONCE if youre gonna quote it
    That said...
    Has something to do with the fact SM Naruto slapped around fucking Kurama if you must know

    Kurama who is > Gyuki

    And KCM Naruto > SM Naruto

    Theres a very clear precedent for arguing KCM Naruto is possibly > Bee is

    Maybe cool it with the drug accusations...Lest you further embarrass your own ass in the future

    Tho i doubt this warning will help you anyway and youll just jump right back to square 1 and misquote me like you always do (and just did again)
    Probably because Pain has a technique that can restrain and seal Kurama :catshrug

    Kurama who is > Bee :catshrug

    But again, Bees placement is tentative
    Cuz it can be easily argued he is for quite a few reasons

    Especially over Kakashi as Sasukes entire shtick is being essentially "Kakashi+"

    That said, they are all relative and literally AT THE TOP OF MY POST AKA THE FIRST THING YOU READ is the following
    I swear kid, its like English isnt even your first language...If its not, that clears quite a few things up. And i apologize for being rude.

    But if English is your first language...What the fuck is your excuse?
    Except no hes not "cleanly" above shit

    And i went over several reasons why in my post AND this one

    Everyone in that tier has a way of making Bees greatest state work against him in a big way.
     
  22. Troyse22 Tailed Beast Without a Tail

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    Paths bar Deva have dogshit durability.

    As shown in the Nagato battle, Bee will land a hit prior to it being absorbed.

    He one shots preta no diff in V1 or V2. Hell Base Bees lariat put V1 Ay on his ass


    This is irrelevant since Bee>>>>>>>>>>SM Jiraiya
    No

    He ran like a pussy

    Bee ragdolls Pein

    Bee is on another level, you'd need to restrict his BM and V2 for Pein to even have a shot, even then V1 still dumpsters the paths
     
  23. Troyse22 Tailed Beast Without a Tail

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    With Bees and Kushinas assistance
    :hestonpls

    Also he did things he couldn't do in the real world at that time, such as going into SM mid air

    You're fucking delusional as fuck if you think that battle in Narutos headspace puts him above Bee

    Impossible real world feats, AND outside assistance

    "Bee<KCM Naruto"

    :hestonpls

    No version of Naruto short of BM is superior to Bee.


    Sure didn't help Nagato from shitting his pants watching 8 tailed wild Kyuubi rape his CT

    No it can't LMFAO

    I'm not getting into extensive debates for reasons I've stated before, but anyone who actually realistically thinks Hebi Sasuke beats more opponents than Kisame or Gai, or beats them in a 1v1 actually has a serious mental problem, and I'm simply incapable of helping them. I'd advise those people see a psychiatrist or maybe even a neurosurgeon ASAP.
     
  24. WorldsStrongest Umu

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    Bee caught 1 small TBB and Kushina didnt contribute until after some of Narutos most notable feats against kurama actually

    And again...the Naruto in question is > that Naruto regardless, and Kurama is > Gyuki regardless

    Which doesnt mean much of anything as i have him relative to SM naruto in my tier list, not base Naruto

    Youre arguing matchup things now, which ive ALSO already accounted for at the top of my list

    Yes if Bee fought Naruto in a chance encounter and immediately went for BM TBB spam hed fuck up Naruto who hasnt had a chance to breathe or even attempt to enter SM yet

    But the same is true of most people in the same bracket as SM naruto...Thats why i specified "SM" Naruto and not "Naruto who starts in base" because if i did that the list would be about 10,000 words long as it wouldnt be a list...But a complicated breakdown of the pros and cons of each fucking characters powersets in relation to those above or below them...

    But by all means generalize when ive already told you how fucking pointless it is :catshrug
    And youre a moronic child who is literally arguing for the sake of arguing if you refuse to acknowledged the fact ive said "tentative" like 6 times now

    I havent put Bee definitively above or below ANYONE thus far aside from Kurama...Because fucking obviously. All im doing is pointing out facts that merit discussion on the topic of Bees general standing while you get butthurt and analmad about it.

    Youre incapable of following simple logic if you dont think that when you combine the 2 facts that KCM Naruto>>>SM Naruto and Kurama>>>Gyuki that KCM naruto compared to Gyuki becomes a fucking discussion.

    Lest we ALSO forget, SM narutos clone fucking beat A3 who is Gyukis DEFINITIVE peer...

    So that makes 3 fucking facts that merit discussion

    You ignore these things for 0 reason and the state im the delusional one :lmao
    >"Nagato was shitting his pants"

    :catshrug

    Do you get off on ignoring canon and making up your own conclusions or something?
    Youre not actually capable of having "debates" because you refuse to acknowledge facts...Case in point...This post ive just addressed where you twisted canon and/or blatantly ignored it and made up your own shit at every turn.

    Its the main reason i have you on ignore and really only take you off when im bored and want to kill time by sharing my opinions with people in threads you just so happened to make
    Sasuke can easily beat characters they cant for many reasons.

    Deidara is an opponent Sasuke defeated with less than his full effort and Deidara is a horrible matchup for Kisame OR Gai for several reasons.

    Youre a moron if you dont think all of these names are comparable anyway :catshrug

    And thats just one example

    Youre also goalpost shifting now. First it was "How is Hebi on the same level as the Masters and Kisame" now its just down to "How does Hebi beat more people than Kisame and Gai" with a distinct absence of Kakashi

    Slowly getting a concession it seems
    You dont "go see" a neurosurgeon

    Bit more to it than that
     
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    1. Why are people ranking DMS Kakashi it was a temporary powerup given to him by Obito and was never used again after the War?

    2. Why is Kakuzu being ranked above Naruto in the Immortals Arc

    3. Why is Immortals Arc Naruto so far below Hebi Sasuke

    4. Why do I see Hebi Sasuke and Deidara in the same tier as Jiraiya , I mean you would think this is 2012 same fucking shit over and over again smh
     
  26. WorldsStrongest Umu

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    Because he never would have beaten him without help and the fact Kakuzu was considerably worn down upon Narutos arrival?

    Because Naruto states he is?

    And a 1 off jutsu that Sasuke can counter a million different ways that only works 50% of the time doesnt merit parity whatsoever?
    Cuz feats put them there as well as hype

    Dont think you realize how vague a term a "tier" can be either
    No instead its 2018 where morons think he can defeat Pain and Nagato despite SM Naruto, his stated better, failing to do so even after getting stronger than his SM state and fighting Pain a second time in KN6...Before losing again...
     
  27. ThomasTheCat Wannabe Battledomer, Less Active Than Preferred

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    Because Kakuzu is better in virtually everything.
    All Immortals Naruto has on BoS Naruto is the RS. Hebi Sasuke shat on Team 7 as a whole, granted Yamato was more than likely holding back.
    Hebi Sasuke can at least push Jiraiya high diff, same for others in the tier. Not too sure about Deidara.
     
  28. Shazam Well-Known Member

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    I didn't say name a high kage tier. Generally speaking people place the masters relatively low
     
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    Whole heartily disagree .

    Base Jman alone could win that high diff. In SM it's a stomp
     
  30. WorldsStrongest Umu

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    Then...Uhh...

    No you fucking dont?
     
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