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Question/Theory Hidan Invincible?

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives' started by bluestrider25, Oct 6, 2006.

  1. bluestrider25

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    I just got an idea...it struck me odd that Kakuzu didn't finish off Asuma instead of just kicking him. What if Asuma wounded himself? Would this hurt Hidan? I mean when Hidan is inside the circle all damage recieved is passed on to whom ever he curses. But what if that person hurts themselves? Would Hidan recieve the damage?

    I mean who in there right mind would wound themselves??? So Hidan never worries about it that much because his enemy isn't around long enough to realize it and thats what he feared the most when Shikamaru solved how to avoid the curse partially. If I was Asuma I'd cut my hand to see if it affects Hidan.

    Is this far fetched even for the naruverse? Love to have replies!
     
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  2. Dark Uchiha

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    maybe, but its too late though as the pike was driven through, if the cliff hanger was him about to do it maybe so.

    seems if u do dmg to hidan it get physically reflected back onto u
    if hidan does dmg to u, it seems emotionally reflected back to u i.e u will feel death

    so i think when hidan stabs himself asuma will feel death, but wont have a physcial mark on himself... i think
     
  3. The Times

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    Hidan has been having phycial marks on him every time he stabs himself. Hidan just doesn't care, because he can't die anyway. If he stabs himself through the heart, he will feel the pain of the other persons death, and live through it.
     
  4. martryn

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    Damn, that's a hella good point. I hadn't thought of that. Maybe Asuma will sacrifice himself all chesspiece-like to finish off Hidan.
     
  5. bluestrider25

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    Love how you described it as emotional pain/trauma!!! It makes me more curious about my original theory. Because if Asuma feels everything that happens to Hidan physically...Hidan might feel everything that physically happens to Asuma when Hidan is inside the circle...possibly???
     
  6. Grrblt

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    I really, really hope that the voodoo thing doesn't work in reverse. Hidan would be such a dumbfuck if he killed people by using a technique that countered his invincibility. If you cannot die and are given the following choices:
    1 Use strange jutsu on other person that removes your invincibility
    2 Kill them the normal way
    no one in their right mind would choose 1. It would make no sense to use that kind of jutsu at all. The reason he uses it is because it works with his invincibility, not because it counters it.
     
  7. bluestrider25

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    I had honestly forgotten that he was invincible before the ritual. Withthat information i have to acknowledge that it just about shuts down my theory.

    I just thought about something else...lol...it's strange that Kishi put emphasis
    on Hidan's blood dropping to the ground after it was revealed it was his own. Perhaps the way to dispell the jutsu is to drink the blood of Hidan just like we see him drink the mysterious blood after the rituals have been completed.

    I would also like to point out if you ever get the chance to eliminate an enemy....do not go for vital organs...just cut the damn head off!!! If those two morons had done that in the beginning instead of going after vital organs both Asuma and Shikamaru would be healthy enough to take on Kakuzu and have better chance of denying him the chance to tape Hidan's head back on!
     
  8. chauronity

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    I'm with the Grrblt here. He is right.

    We is immune to pain so anything else than killing yourself wont do. If even that.
    He cant be killed, you know.
     
  9. Shikamaru0193

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    i seriously hope that he doesnt...and asuma still hasnt shown his true colors as i said in the manga chapter thread. all we know is that he is a wind specialist. and the only "jutsu" we seen him do is just a fire technique and him using his brass knuckle things
     
  10. martryn

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    We'll see how unkillable he is in the next couple of chapters. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up as dead as Sasori.
     
  11. sepe-taichou

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    I would like to point out that if Asuma did hurt himself while Hidan was in the ring, and then died, wouldn't the spell be broken? If so then Asuma would still have all the wounds and he would start to feel them. That wouldnt be such a pleasant experience, and it probably lead to his death. It seems only Hidans body can tackle that much physical damage and survive.
     
  12. The Uchiha Wrath

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    meh, it would be just another Sakon\Ukon repeat =/
     
  13. Kiyoshi

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    Well, while the thing working in reverse would be interesting, but flawed it would be flawed with acceptable risk.

    Imagine you in a battle with a strong foe. That strong foe turns out to seem to be immortal, but he can't be, right? Yes, stronger attacks will beat him.... Oouch! Runaway to plan a cou.... *gurk* *Person dies*.

    Hidan's attack is perfect in a 1v1 batte. The main flaw comes if you have a person of Shikamaru's personality to sit back while his friends are in mortal danger and think. *THinks Shika might make a good journalist* Most people, normal people, would risk attempting to help immediately against this quick 1 hit kill. If a Shikamaru appears? Well, that is why Hidan has his little friend there...

    So a two way street method works fine if you believe the person will put up a hard fight or you have a partner. If the other person figures it out, have your partner "kill" you with a kunai.
     
  14. deuceswld84

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    just bury the S.O.B alive with a burial jutsu, and no more Hidan smile-big
     
  15. atom

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    Yes, this was already forshadowed in the Kiba vs. Ukon Fight

    " What?! Your going to kill yourself?!..... impossible! "
    " Heh.. If I die.. YOU die.. in that case, we both die "
    " NOO "
    *stab*
     
  16. elektroniks

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    welcome to the wonderful world of naruto and plot no jutsu :D ok this isnt a big plot no jutsu, but yeh if it was me, i would have hacked the head off before i stabbed an enemy. i have seen street fights where a guy gets stabbed in the gut and managed to pull the knife out and stab the other guy! now this is real life and people can do that, imagine would tolerance a ninja might have to pain.

    to me i would always do the exact same thing in my battle, kunai to the face and try to cut the enemies head off, it just makes for a more secure victory.

    as grrlbt said, who in their right mind would forsake invincibility to kill someone with a jutsu, thats crazy. as for how to kill hidan, i can still only see a couple of ways, either like tenzen from basilisk and poison him, MS him with eitehr kakashi's move to another dimension or tsukiyomi or amaterasu, or like every other movie with said invincible regenerative bad guy, get rid of every atom of him ie melt him = t-1000, kamehameha = cell, etc.
     
  18. Nekki

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    Wtf going for the vitals is almost as effective as chopping the head off, except with special people like hidan.

    Plus what tells you that Hidan would've died if his head was chopped off before the ritual?

    And while kakuzu hit asuma he was holding Hidan's head, and his body was out of the circle, so the ritual was already dispelled.

    I don't see where the plot no jutsu is... damn that term is killing the fun in reading the manga

     
  19. PotatoNin

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    Some questions to consider:
    1) What if Asuma enters Hidan's circle, going with the whole "feel others' pain" aspect of the ritual?

    2) What happens if Asuma draws his own circle with his own blood?

    And then of course who says the son of "The Professor" doesn't whip out Shinigami or some other non-descript jutsu? I agree with martryn, this one wasn't over the first time around and it ain't over yet.

    P.S. major props for AL sending Hidan out with the one guy in Akatsuki who can sew the little rag doll back together again :p

    EDIT: LOL, just reread it... Hidan left a pole for Asuma too :nuts
     
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    Yes! cut the hands!! and let Tsunade fix it back up ^_^
     
  21. Shinigami1980

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    This Hidan Vs. Asuma & Co. is going too far now...i mean...they stretching it too much...!! come on he cut off his head....now he shouldn't be talking...but he still does...well we all loved him for that!!./...but putting his head back on top of his body is friggin' insane!! okay we saw Deidera put his arm back on....but thats different its just an arm!! well one can argue if you can put back and arm why not the head.!

    NARUTO is NOT fun n e more
     
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