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Rinnegan Obito vs Tobirama

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by The_Conqueror, Jul 27, 2017.

Who Wins?

  1. Tobirama

    4 vote(s)
    21.1%
  2. Obito

    15 vote(s)
    78.9%
  1. The_Conqueror Well-Known Member

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    Obito


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    Tobirama




    Knowledge:
    Scenario 1: Manga
    Scenario 2 : Full for both sides

    Stipulations:
    -Obito cannot use Jin Paths or Gedo but can use Outer path rods Chains and Human path
    -Obito Has his gunbai
    - Tobirama has Edos

    Location: Madara vs Gokage
     
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  2. Monty Burns Release the hounds

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    I don't know how Tobirama wins with 1 Kunai. He'll probably get sent to boxland in S1. He wins S2 though by coming up with a strategy like Minato did.
     
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  3. Bonly Fire Fist

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    Obito gives Tobi a trip to boxland, Tobi's not fast enough tag Obito and land the killing blow so yeah
     
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    Tobirama wins.

    Obito cant tag him, nor can he warp him since Tobirama can escape with Hiraishin every time.
    Hiraishin Giri kills Obito. Tobirama can use Shadow clones to confuse him then use his weapons combined with Hiraishin. Obito gets shanked.
    Depending on how much Edo Tobirama has, he can use Gojo Kibakufuda which can as well outlast Obito's intangibility and kill him.
     
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  5. Veracity Miseducation

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    Rolling with this. Tobirama's intelligence, reactions, handspeed, bunshin, and aptitude with FTG at least allow him to tag Obito similarly to what Minato did. From there it's game over .
     
  6. ARGUS The conqueror

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    Without The bijuus, Obito cannot deal with him

    Mid diff win for Tobirama.
     
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    Tobirama’s inventive genius aside, most his assaults lack in any strategic value [1, 2, 3, 4] needed against right-eye Kamui, all of which would have failed if Obito had retained intangibility. His Edo Tensei is limited, and Gojo Kibaku Fuuda isn’t anywhere close to Konan’s countermeasure.

    . . . Kage Bunshin have some utility, in that Obito will be vary of warping a clone, but if he should play smart [1, 2, 3], he can have the clones deal with each other. . . which isn’t really hard. This is the thing about right-eye Kamui: There are no visual indicators to go by, and the technique’s active or inactive state can only be confirmed via physical contact. What if—
    1. Obito is pretending to attack, but the opponent assumes it to be genuine.
    2. Obito is genuinely attacking, but the opponent assumes it to a pretend attack.
    . . .? Although case (b) will rarely happen (if at all), if the fighting should prolong, but even this works in Obito’s favor. The opponent has to rely on intuition, then. In that, the level of opponent makes no difference, since none can tell if Kamui is active or inactive state. As I said, Tobirama’s an inventor and keen-observer, but from what little we have been shown, he falls short in coming up with effective countermeasures, of which one example is shown here (as such Minato’s superior in this regard). It’s imperative, he plays smart, but is lacking in ability to force Obito into turning off intangibility i.e. from his known arsenal.

    Obito vs Fuu/Torune is a perfect demonstration of the dynamics of right-eye Kamui in battle, as is the one with Naruto and company. . . in how there’s an interplay of intangibility and tangibility. This will continue on, until Tobirama falls.

    Obito takes this.

    EDIT: Link corrected. . .
     
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  8. The_Conqueror Well-Known Member

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    Clone is not a perfect counter to obito we have seen that with Naruto, him taking on the team to capture Itachi, Narutos clone and and in 4 vs 1 battle against masters and Naruto.

    Distraction like clones are just too obvious not to be noticed
    Obito reaction to minatos kunai " Damn he flew to the kunai he threw before". The situation would have been different had Minato used a clone because obito would be aware of that. Clone can simply be phased through , destroyed with gunbai or let tobirama destroy it himself

    Also tobirama has limited use of his marked seals and makes him predictable and obito having knowledge on FTG would make it that much difficult.

    Also note that obito himself that he could have speed up his kamui speed against Minato so only way tobirama is winning is a last second manuever without being wrapped with obito having knowledge on tobiramas signature fighting style

    Also tobirama is intelligent does not mean obito is dumb.

    With human path and rinnegan he does not have to opt for kamui one rod inside tobirama that's it , once soul sucked that's him.basically tobirama cannot let obito even touch him

    I dont think the match would be easy for tobirama as people think and obito has a fair chance of winning this.
     
  9. Troyse22 Tailed Beast Without a Tail

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    Can tag JJ Obito, but can't tag Rinne Obito

    Lolk
     
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    Fixed for accuracy. To add to it Obito was mindless and Tobi didn't tag Obito again unless he was distracted once he knew he was marked
     
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    Obito summons the Mazo and overwhelm Tobirama with Kamui combined to the six paths powers. Low diff win.
     
  12. The_Conqueror Well-Known Member

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    Mazo restricted
    Only outer path And Human path that obito has shown or has been indicated that he can use is given to him
     
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    Kakashi said the only reason Obito wasn't using 6 paths techniques was because of Bijuu control, and Obito agreed. Furthemore Madara said he learnt Rikudou Jutsus in the flash-back which means he can use Pain's techniques if he wants.
    Saying Obito can't use them is the same as saying Madara can't use Nagato's powers because he never showed them on panel.
     
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    Tobirama gets genjutsu gg he probably will put up a great fight but obito can in theory use rinnegan techs too or just rip his soul out . Obito has regen too so I think he will edge it out. Now obito is intangible but if somehow the second manages to get him in that replicating exploding tag tech than he could take the w too
     
  15. Ishmael I'd rather you hadn't seen that.

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    If only I could ;)oh I didn’t realize how old this was ha
     
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    Obito wins of he plays it smart and attacks with the rinnegan rods instead of Kamui. Otherwise Tobirama.
     
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    With the jins restricted, Tobirama blows him up with Gojo.
     
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    Anyways, Tobirama loses both scenarios. Hiraishin Slash won't work, Rinnegan Obito ate up a Chidori to the heart.. Even if that did work Tobirama wouldn't be able to before it's Rinnegan chakra rods gg
     
  20. T-Bag The Strongest

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    Don't think Obito can take on a legendary Hokage, Hashirama's brother.

    He ain't rdy for him
     
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    Obito took on 4 high end kage opponents at once and one of them literally had his other eye and they couldn’t do jack still lol he is more than ready for him it would be a great fight though and could go either way. But I would say obito 7/8 -10 matches. I don’t see tobirama making it out alive even against just the 8 and 9 tailed Jin’s you throw in Kakashi and Gai it would be a stomp . And all of them combined ,while wielding obitos weakness couldn’t even injure him ( and when they did he instantly regen)
     
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  22. Arles Celes The Psychologist

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    Minato said how his battle with Obito would be decided by a split second and indeed we saw Obito touching Minato which is something that even V2 Ei couldn't accomplish. Tobirama outright stated how Minato is faster than him.

    Besides with Human Path Obito does not need to bother with sending him to boxland. The moment he touches Tobirama he can rip off his soul. Would even Hirashin escape work there when Obito holds Tobirama's very soul in his grasp? And if Obito touches Tobirama's head when activating Human path then it will leave Tobirama as "unconscious" as all victims of Human path are when the user touches their head.

    Unless Tobirama's edos are kage level(and even then they would be nowhere near their original power since Tobirama never mastered ET to Kabuto's level) I do not see how he can beat Rinnegan Obito.
     
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    I mean in my opinion between madara fighting the 5 kage and obitos fight with Kakashi , Gai , naruto and bee, Obito without a doubt had to fight the more difficult of the two teams and the one he fought had the only counter to his intangibility and he still held down the fort like a champ and was totally chill about it lol he didn’t seem worried about a thing really . Obitos downfall as a villain was that he secretly wanted to be defeated by naruto ( who he thought of as his old self or his past self ) and so in a way he wanted his past self to overcome his present self and strange as it may sound I think he only lost because he actually wanted to lose . other than that weird flaw I felt like he was nigh unstoppable . ( with a few exceptions of course )
     
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