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Roger & Shiki Alliance vs. Big Mom & Kaido Alliance

Discussion in 'One Piece Battledome' started by Louis-954, Oct 16, 2019.

  1. Louis-954

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    Crew vs Crew in Wano. Who wins?
     
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    Roger>Big Mom or Kaido unarguably at high/extreme diff 10/10 times.

    Assuming Shiki is average Top Tier level, with his telekinetic prowess he could hold off either of the pair for longer than it would take Roger to fell one.

    Even asiding this, until further notice, for me its-

    Roger>Kaido~Big Mom~Edd War Shiki

    So one team is stacked.

    Not even gonna discuss the fodders, but Prime Ray+Prime Scopper+whoever is Shiki's 1st, 2nd, and 3rd mate will crush the other commanders.
     
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    Only one team is stacked? There’s 7 YC commanders within the Big Mom x Kaido alliance, 4 of them being worth a billion+. I don’t think it’d be a cake walk for the Roger Shiki alliance.

    How long do you think it would take for Roger to take down a Yonko 1v1? I imagine it would take at least a full day.
     
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    Roger & Ray vs Kaido & Big Mom. The former duo wins after a very long time.

    I assume Shiki is a solid top tier, probably Emperor level. He takes care of Kaido's top 3.

    Oden should atleast be FM level. At worst Katakuri is an extreme diff fight for him. At best, he's an Admiral level and walks through Kata with little problem. In which case he assists the below guy.

    Scopper>Smoothie+Cracker.

    Shiki should have capable top 3 YC under him. They take care of Kyoshiro, Perespero & Drake with moderate difficulty.

    The other Flying 6, Numbers, BM's competent children + large fodders will probably overcome young Inu/Neko/Shanks and others with room to spare. I see Shiki lifting a finger to sink them though (he could rest as his top 3, Oden/Scopper drain them further). I think him, Oden and possibly Scopper will have the least injuries which a couple days rest would take care of. Rest will either be dead or greatly injured. Overall high to extreme diff would be my guess.
     
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    Yeah. Both teams are stacked in relation to the OP world. But the Roger-Shiki team is more stacked relative to the matchup itself.

    It'd take a while. Dunno if I could really get a number. A day is a good baseline to start off with. I know it wouldn't take the full 10 days of Akainu vs Aokiji, and I doubt it'd take the 5 of Ace vs Jinbe either. I'll tentatively say 2-3.
     
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    Roger and Shiki.
     
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    Roger - Shiki alliance wins without a doubt.
     
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    Roger alliance annihilates
     
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    Kaido fight Roger
    Big Mom fights Shiki
    Ray prays to Im-Sama & wonders who and where the rest of his backup with feats is
     
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    well it's a hard one but if we are talking about Prime Crew ... Roger alone is capable of giving a good fight to 2 Yonko with his crew

    • Roger
    • Dark King
    • Shiki
    • Oden

    Vs

    • Kaido
    • Big Mom

    3 Yonko can win this but not 2 Yonko ...
     
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    Roger alliance shits
     
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    Roger's crew probably soloes. Roger and Rayleigh are both significantly stronger than the two Yonkou, Oden should be able to handle King and Scopper should be able to deal with the riff-raff. If you include Shiki, this is way too one-sided, especially considering Big Mom's weakness to gravity. Shiki could most likely defeat Big Mom just by lifting her up and placing her in a pool of water.
     
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    Roger alliances win because of prime ray.
     
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    Movie shiki isn't canon, he'd reasonably have a top crew of his own, seeing as he's a top 5 pirate of rogers era.

    This isn't old Roger, this is prime Roger, who is vastly stronger than old healthy whitebeard, who is the one who kaidou rivals. So he outright is much stronger. Canon prime shiki should be stronger than either as well and have a solid crew of his own as essentially a yonkou of roger's time period.

    Sorry but Rayleigh isn't close to Roger leveled. He should be comparable more to someone like captain john or silver axe, if even.
     
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    With Roger, Rayleigh, Oden, Scopper other tough guys and probably a legion of followers as the pirate king Roger crew alone gives the 2 Yonkou a run for their money. With Shiki and his armies it is unfair.
     
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    Roger's crew can't solo 2 current Yonko crews
    stop it


    you are overhyping Roger pirates. Your headcanon crew wouldn't even have rivals. But Roger had it. Shiki's crew put them in near death situations in the past and its canon fact

    but if we are talking right according to the thread - Roger's+Shiki's crews >
     
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