Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Shoten, Oct 24, 2005.
How would Oro, Jiraiya, and Tsunade do against these three?
I have no real reason why, But I think the sannin would win. Sasori, is the strongest and oro would cripple him. Jiraiya would cripple diedara, and Tsunade is probably stronger than Kisame, and I bet she is familiar with high level water techniques.
Considering what happened with Itachi and Kisame facing Jiraiya alone, Team Akatsuki bails before the fight begins.
^ There's no Itachi so no one will prevent Kisame from dishing out his "flashy" jutsus.
I'm going for the sannin on this, they have a medical ninja on their side.
I'd go with the Akatsuki. It nowhere in the manga states that Sasori is stronger than Kisame. I think it'd actually be a pretty good match. Do remember that Orochimaru was once an Akatsuki member, but left it since he was having in own issues. He also stated that he couldn't obtain Itachi, most likely meaning he is not strong enough to beat Itachi down. So, most of these guys are on the Orochimaru+ level of strength and chakra, so it's not going to be easy for the Konoha Sannin.
Although Jiraiya, Tsunade and Orochimaru are extrodinarily strong and talented, and think this would be an amazing match. In the end, I would give it to Deidara, Kisame and Sasori.
i think the sannin would win, they have more experience as a team not to mention i think they're stronger. not by much but still, i think the sannin win this one.
I know that this is the most commonly used arguement and is quite annoying, but they aren't called the Legendary Sannin for no reason... They are THE Legendary 3 NINJA! Not DeiSasoKisa.
i think the 3 ls and the akatsuki co. would win. i mean look!!! they got sasori on their side!!!!!!!!!!
Replace Itachi with Deidara and have Jiraiya kill both Kisame and Deidara.
Tsunade neutralizes Sasori's main threat while Oro takes Kisame back to his lab for 'research' with that stupid grin on his face
Well this is a slaughter, Akatsuki loses badly
Not only are they totally outclassed 1v1, but they completely lack the Sannins "synergy" fighting together as well
the Sannin have decades of experience watching each others back, the Akatsuki guys couldnt care less, Deidara royally screwed Sasori over the last time they were in a teamwork situation, and Sasori got killed because of it
Wahahaha, couldn't have said it better.
Sannin take this, although team Akatsuki would be able to put up a good fight.
even if itachi is with them , akatsuki member move away
with just the name of Jiraiya , 2 member are afraid , so immagine what are they doing if they meet the 3 sannin in the same time...
even if they want to fight , sasori is no as strong as he look's like ( remember with sakura a chunnin )
I 2 agree that the sannin would win but they would have to try their best to defeat the akatsuki. Also if itachi was on the akatsuki team then the sannin's would not be able to win the fight. Keep in mind that itachi got away from jiraiya because
a. He was tired
b. He didn't come to fight
c. There wasn't much of a point to go back after him considering naruto was still young and didn't have as much control of nine tails as they thought.
Plus Oro clearly stated that itachi was more powerful than him and oro and jiraiya are tied in strenght which would make itachi stronger than both of them.
Someone stated before that the sannin could work well 2gether... LOL is that a joke? When was the last time oro faught on the same side as tsunade and jiraiya??? Akatsuki are trained to fight together. They can cooperate wit eachother alot more than the sannin. Keep in mind that The Title Legendary Sannin wasn't given to them by the enemy but by konoha so that doesn't mean anything when they are fighting against the akatsuki.
Here's your answer.
If Akatsuki fails to run, total slaughter.
EDIT: To expound:
Kisame is inferior to Jiraiya. Vastly so. So much so that adding Itachi doesn't tip the balance in his favor.
Deidara has flashy jutsus, but as we've seen, he's nothing much on the defensive.
Sasori was severely mismatched against Sakura, who was doing well (not winning, mind you) completely on her own, despite being a Chuunin.
Tsunade is Sakura times twenty.
And Orochimaru is the man described as having the power of an entire country.
Not at all.
a. "Clearly", Itachi bailed by giving his reson - that together with Kisame, even with more members by their side, they won't be able to secure victory...Now that's something that's clearly shown.
b. The "tired" argument is a nail in the coffin of Itachi. If by using one or two of his specialized moves, he becomes tired to the point of where even double teaming or triple teaming one Sannin means death for him, he doesn't have a chance in a fight against them. All it takes is one miss, and he'll be gone. So it's not a good argument in favor of Itachi.
c. And there's no such fact that Oro and Jiraiya are tied in strength..Jiraiya always had a soft spot for Orochimaru, much like Sandaime.
d. Whether there was a point in going back after Naruto is an entirely different subject, irrelevant to Itachi's fear of Jiraiya.
So what we do know - Itachi *AND* Kisame, both supposed to be high level Akatsuki members, fled from Jiraiya.
Itachi himself gave the reason why they did it. Ie, even together, even with more members, at best they could hope for a tie or mutual death, ie no victory against one Jiraiya.
As for the sannin fighting together being a joke....You're talking about an imaginary fight where the sannin are fighting together. They made their name as the "legendary sannin" by fighting together.
The title may or may not be given to them by Konoha, but whereever they are, you can see their enemies, including the Akatsuki referring to them by that very title..
And if it doesn't mean anything against Akatsuki, you missed a couple of statements made by Itachi and Kisame of Akatsuki..
And that's why, if Itachi and Kisame together ran away from Jiraiya, it's extremely unlikely that these 3 members would stay around to fight all 3 of the legendary Sannin.
Remember, it's not Jiraiya alone, but Orochimaru and Tsunade as well, and all 3 of them fighting together..Kiri no Kuchiki summed it up pretty nicely.
sasori = can control 100 puppets with his body + sandaime kazekage with his fingers + his body is a weapon itself.
I assume in the chaos that would follow, Sasori would nick all three of the Sannin *and most likely his own team-mates*
But anywhoo - Oro wouldnt stand a chance against Sasori,
Tsunade is useless against Kisame and his sword,
Undara drops a bomb on Jiraiya
why would Tsunade be useless against kisame's sword? she'll break the sword in half...
Chakra laden punches arnt going to do much against a Taijutsu powerhouse (stronger and faster than Gai at only 30%) with a chakra eating sword
If Oro hadn't had his arms crippled by Sarutobi, I think that it would be a good fight but the Sannin would come out on top. However, it was the spirit aspect of Oro's arms that were taken, and so there's no reason to believe that simply changing bodies would give him the ability to form seals and perform jutsus again. If Kishi allows Oro to be able to perform jutsus again, then I think that the Sannin once again have the edge. If Oro were able to take over Sasuke's body and fight with that, it would be a rout. He could simply copy all of Kisame's jutsus and fire them back at him while Tsunade would smash the crap out of Sasori's puppets and cure herself if injured, like Sakura, and Jiraiya would trap Deidara in his frog's stomach and let it digest him.
Oro in Sasuke's body would >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Itachi.
Kisame wouldnt even count.
There is a fact that they are equal. The episode when narto returned after the fight wit sasuke, jiraiya came to his window and explained everything. He mentioned that him and oro were equal many years back and considering oro has the immortality technique, he can grow alot stronger while jiraiya's speed and strength decrease as he gets older.
The reason Itachi got away was because he heard of jiraiya's power not witnessed it. He ran away assuming that jiraiya was more powerful than him but the stories that he did hear were about his powers years back considering he hasn't had a real battle in a long time. The akatsuki are specialized in working together and they can work alot better than 3 people that havn't faught, trained or even talked 2gether for several years. Also don't 4get about the fact that jiraiya is getting older and weaker just like saratobi.
sannin are too much for team akatsuki.
Sigh, another poll where Kisame is losing???? Absolutely ludicrous, I suppose the blame for this one falls squarely on his teammates Mud Flinger and Pinocchio, I can't imagine why anyone would think Kisame is less buff than any of the Sannin. It's hard to compare their buffnesses because they're all so buff, so it's only reasonable that I judge them on other criteria, namely... their ability to pimp on da ladeeez.
KISAME VS ORO:
Oro could theoretically be a major pimp on da ladeeez, except for a few little things.
1) His attitude is garbage. Women like the bad boys, but trying to kill your ex-sensei??? And your entire ex-village??? What is he trying to do, one-up Itachi and Itachi's murder of his clan??? Only an evil bitch would like a bad boy like him.
2) He's killed every woman in Sound Village. I don't have proof of this, but other than Tayuya, who is decidedly an honorary man, have we seen any woman in Oro's service or village? I think they've all been experimented on or sacrificed (e.g. Kin). And if this is true, this is obviously a strike against Oro when it comes to women.
3) He's a homo to the extreme. His affair with Kabuto is well documented on these forums. Plus, I firmly believe that he never once tried to hit on Tsunade while they grew up. And if you're a healthy young boy growing up, and you're watching your girl buddy teammate growing bigger in proportions in all sorts of "really neat ways" as she goes through puberty, you've got to make a move sooner or later. But it's been strongly hinted that Oro never did anything of the sort, which meant that he was either a sick demented bastard or a flaming queer or a combination of both sicko and queer (I'd go for the last one).
Frankly I don't even need to say anything for support of Kisame in this matchup, because hell even blubberbutts like Choji would be more likely to be pimping on ladeeez than Oro.
WINNER: KISAME BY DEFAULT
now, the next matchup,
KISAME VS JIRAIYA:
Ok, Jiraiya is a pretty cool guy, and maybe he'll get himself that occassional 40 year old woman who is attracted to men who wear their hair like their favorite 80's rock star once did (think David lee Roth or Motley Crue's Vince Neil, for example), but other than that? the Only wimmin we see him with are wimmin he PAYS FOR AT SOME STINKY STD INFESTED WHOREHOUSE, and that is not pimping, that is the total antithesis, that is called GIVING MONEY TO BITCHES SO THEY CAN THEN GIVE THEIR MONEY TO THEIR PIMP.
Plus, the most important woman in Jiraiya's targeted over 40 year old demographic is Tsunade, and it's pretty obvious that Jiraiya's game failed miserably with her. Heck Tsunade would most likely rather roll in the sack with Chiyo's brother before she rolls around with Jiraiya, that's how much Jiraiya probably struck out with her when they were young. Heck, Tsunade would rather date some dude with some stupid generic Anglo Saxon name like "Dan" before dating Jiraiya, which leads me to believe that she's like some of those Asian chicks out there who dig non-Asian dudes, or at least Asian dudes with white guy names. Jiraiya is obviously an Asian pervert to the max, so he's out of the running, but guess who obviously isn't Asian??
If you guessed KISAME, u guessed RIGHT, give yourself a pat on the back and paste a little gold star next to your name. How do I know Kisame isn't some asian dude??? Asians are yellow. Kisame is blue. Simple and obvious as that. Dont ask me what Kisame is either, I don't know, but he's definitely not Asian, which means he's already got a head start on Jiraiya. PLus, when Tsunade and Jiraiya got together for a drink, what ended up happening??? TSunade was so offended by Jiraiya's lack of game, she ended up DRUGGING him so that he couldn't even pee into a toilet for the next week, let alone be agile enough to romp around in bed.
But let's say KISAME was the one taking Tsunade out for a drink, oh hoooooly shit, Tsunade would be fucking ALL OVER HIM, I'd actually fear for Kisame's life!!! She'd be thinking stuff like, "OMG I JUST WANT TO DRAG HIM BACK TO THE MOTEL, RIP OFF HIS CLOTHES, AND RAVISH HIM UNTIL WE ARE ONE BIG SWEATY WRITHING MESS!!!! And fuck what Shizune whines about him being an S ranked criminal, I need some of them S ranked kama sutra techniques tonite!!!"
Course Tsunade wouldn't be that overt, she'd try to contain her interest at first, she'd joke around stuff like "Hahaha, oh Kisame, is that your Samehada, or are you just happy to see me?" And then Kisame would say in all seriousness, "Babe, I left Samehada back at my place. I'm just happy to see you and your two friends." And Tsundae would be like, "OMG, HE'S HUNG LIKE A HORSE! A horse with gills and high top hair!" She'd be touching him and stuff, taking opportunities whenver she can to pat and squeeze and sample his arms and stuff to confirm that, yes, he's got ripped muscles like galvanized steel, and then it's all over after he drops a little of his smooth suave charm on her, she'll be thinking "take me take me take me take me take me!!!!", and she'll be slipping drugs into his drink, but not sleepy pills, mind you! More like Viagra or some sort of aphrodisiac which would would seal the deal and make Kisame decide that hitting it with her would be "really nice", not that he'd need any encouragement anyways.
Anyway, next morning, I fully expect both of them to wake up at his place with a few more white hairs on their heads, and Kisame will be thinking stuff like man, chakra-control-specialist chicks are awesome, while Tsunade will be getting ready to go back to her place thinking about the mind boggling level of chakra Kisame displayed last nite, heck, she'll be like the rest of us and wondering if he's got a jinchuuriki or not cooped up inside him, THAT's how much of a monster in bed he will be. :
Meanwhile, Jiraiya will be all by his lonesome self with his full head of premature non-sex-related white hair. At best, he'd be hitting it with some fat soccer mom who still listens to Tears For Fears.
ADVANTAGE: THE STALLION OF THE MIST WINS THIS RACE BY A DOZEN LENGTHS
KISAME VS TSUNADE
Ok, the stallion of the mist is clearly superior to oro and jiraiya when it comes to pimping, he might as well go for the triple crown against tsunade. but wait, it's not as easy as it sounds, because frankly, tsunade is attractive, and if she gets a lady drunk who already has lesbian tendencies, heck, she could pimp hard on women just as much as Kisame, probably!!! And I'm talking about hot women with lesbian tendencies, not those manbeast dykes whose attractiveness, on a scale of one to ten, is somewhere around negative fifty seven. You know who I'm talking about, you're walking around, and you see this "woman" (loose terms here) who cuts her hair with a cereal bowl, and the first thing you think is "DYKE".
But in the end, Kisame wins because I said so, and I'm a biased bastard, even though Tsunade obviously has those magical hands who could probably send women to heaven. But hey, Kisame's got two hands too, last time I checked (which is more than what Deidara can say, more proof that Deidara is the reason why Kisame is losing in the poll), and he's got of course, the KLASPERS. He's so freaking famous for his loving, you know those companies that send out all these spam emails about penis enlargment and improved sexual virility??? Shit, they don't even bother to send those emails to Kisame's email address (email@example.com), it's just a freaking waste of bandwidth, it's like sending emails to rich cats like Bill Gates which say stuff like "You may have just won a million dollars, click here!!!" It's just freaking pointless. If anything, they're probably featuring pictures of Kisame's equipment in those emails and saying stuff like "Do you want to be this big??? Click here to learn more!!!"
To be fair, I guess I'll call it a wash, because Tsunade can pimp on both women and men, and frankly, I don't see Kisame pimping on men with the same success as Tsunade.
ADVANTAGE: NONE (DRAW)
So in conclusion, I think I've gone off topic yet again.
LOL, whahaha Raikiri your long post be could such comedian director XD...
yeah, Kisame is strong than Sannin! lol... Sannin feared Kisame's hidden big dick...
Kisame used Water Dick no Jutsu that powerful water-gun-dick.
I'd have to go with the Sannin for this one. Granted, the Akatsuki team is very well balanced, but their opponents strike me as a lot more flexible individually, as well as superior in firepower. It's hard from what I've seen to think of either Deidara or Kisame on the Sannin level. Sasori's pretty l33t, so having him get a nick or two in may be the only path to victory.
Of course, if the Sannin start summoning, especially Oro, then well...
My arguements pale in comparison to Raikiri's.
Raikiri for president of the world kplsthnx!
Sannin would win this fo sho!
If I were oro or Jiraiya, I sure'd be intimidated by Kisame's pair of massive firehoses. You know how they talk about "motion of the ocean"? Kisame doesn't just bring the motion to the sack, he brings the ocean too!!! If you know what I mean. Tsunade wouldn't be afraid either, she'd love it, she'd be like "Oooh, Kisame, there's so much 'water'!!!" Kisame better be careful though, if he accidentally gets some of his water inside her eyes or mouth, she's probably going to chakra-punch him in the groin. But that's okay, so long as Kisame fulfills his duty as LL Kool K; the next day, she'll still have that extra spring in her step, and all the other women will be wondering who she's seeing now. :
Also to the guy who mentioned me for president, I think I would be a much better president than Bush. At least I couldn't be any worse. Instead of assigning unqualified and incompetent men to critical govnt positions like Bush does, I would assign unqualified and incompetent women with hot bodies and nice smiles to critical govnt positions. At least they'd be more pleasing to the (male) eye.
So in conclusion, Kisame has a big dikku.
i'm pretty sure that sannin would win this. more experience as a team and generally probably more powerful.