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Sasuke's Form-Manipulation > Naruto's

Discussion in 'Konoha Library Archives' started by Kishido, May 28, 2007.

  1. Kishido

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    Ok Naruto was able to complete the Rasengan (Form) with Wind (Element) which is statet by Kakashi even the 4th or him can't do...

    But Sasuke did in the Orochimaru-fight a blade of lightning just with his finger and doesn't seem that it was hard for him.

    So he has to have a very high level of form-manipulation and was able to put his lightning-affinity in it with ease...
     
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  2. Sasuke_Bateman

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    I think only gods can do such a high-level Manipulation. Sasuke was in jesus mode when fighting Orochimaru.
     
  3. Shinkirou

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    Sasuke hasn't shown the ability to use the rasengan yet, so no, his form manipulation isn't quite at that level yet. Though I personally dont think he's that far behind in that aspect. His elemental manipulation seems to be greater than Narutos though, atleast from whats been shown.
     
  4. Shinigami Perv

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    Well Kakashi can do Rasengan... I dont see why it is that big a deal.
     
  5. Kingnaruto

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    Im not gonna insult your intelligence here

    Rasengan has HIGHEST FORM MANIPULATION nothing is higher than that just look at the shape, MAximum spin everywhere kept controlled with WIND ADDED

    Sabre jutsu is less, lets just say it a lon chidori.

    NAruto would definately be able to do that with his wind jutsu. Probably make itt 10m long. (remember the waterfall?)
     
  6. narutofangd

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    The 20ft Raiton Blade was an easier form manipulation than the Rasegan
     
  7. Kishido

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    I'm sure that he would be able to use Rasengan with his level... Even Kakashi can do it and Sasukes form-manipulation seems to outclass him... A fucking 2 meter lightning blade just with his finger
     
  8. mystictrunks

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    Making a blade isn't that hard,especially out of lightning since it's naturally in a blade like shape. If it was made out of water,some other liquid material, or pure un-elemental chakra it would be impressive.
     
  9. MS81

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    no it wasn't, If it was I'm pretty sure Kakashi would already have had raiton w/Rasengan.:kkchidori
     
  10. narutofangd

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    Rasengan is the highest example of form manipulation A straight blade like Asuma's Baki's and Sasuke's are lower level form manipulations
     
  11. mystictrunks

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    And people wonder why I dislike Sasuke's fanbase . . .
     
  12. Kishido

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    I'm a Kakashi and Hinata-fan to make things clear xD
     
  13. Kingnaruto

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    No cos kishi has bumped off kakashi big time, like i had made a thread about this b4.

    Kakashi has had Raiton for 17 years and the only raiton he can do or shown doing is Raikiri, what fucking shit is that, and that little uchiha has 3 Raiton jutsu in 3 years. Kishi is a let down to kakashi
     
  14. Random Nobody

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    I dislike Naruto and Sasuke's fanbases. There constant attempts to one up each other are annoying.
     
  15. Kishido

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    Yeah so true... WTF is this
     
  16. Sasuke_Bateman

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    I hate all fanbases because they are gay. Anyways Uchiha Sasuke >> Jesus Christ.
     
  17. Shiron

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    Okay, that's nice... But how does that mean that Sasuke's form manipulation is better than Naruto's? I'm not seeing it.
     
  18. MS81

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    nah you still have to take consideration that he's doing without the Kusanagi and I bet he can manipulate the chidori to spin as fast as rasengan soon we will see.:wink

    kingnaruto, Kakashi don't have as much chakra as Sasuke or Naruto that's why he bumped him off.:cry

    but Sasuke form = Naruto's FRS I can garantee you all in next week or so Kakashi will see what Sasuke did w/Chidori

    Kakashi:.... That's

    Sasuke: That's right Sensai I put more manipulation into the Chidori.

    Kakashi: Sasuke has surpassed my skills already?
     
  19. Cold

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    I doubt the raiton blade is more difficult to form than the rasengan. The rasengan is so advanced a technique that nobody can add nature manipulation to it without having that special knack for it. The raiton blade's form is that of, well, a blade. It seems that the form manipulation is much more uniform compared to the rasengan.
     
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    Until we see Sasuke perform Rasengan, which I hope to God he doesn't, then Sasuke's spatial manipulation abilities are subpar when compared to Naruto's abilities. The only thing I've liked about Kishi's tendency though of making "bigger Rasengans" is FRS's effects.
     
  21. Kishido

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    He will never call him sensei :notrust
     
  22. Sharinganmaster29

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    no sasuke doesnt have a form+nature manipulation at the level naruto has...and even if he had naruto's would own bicuz of wind's advantage over lightning
     
  23. Cold

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    Yea but remember that its not just spinning the chakra fast, but spinning the chakra in several different directions at high speeds. I'm pretty sure that would be much more difficult with raiton than with fuuton, since making chakra resemble lightning is almost forcing the chakra to become unpredictable. Now that I think about it, making the raiton take the form of a blade probably requires an amazing amount of control, let alone making it spin in several different directions like rasengan.
     
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    Sasuke has not performed Rasengan so I doubt his form-manipulation is on par with Naruto's. Then again we didn't know Kakashi knew Rasengan until 30 chapters ago.
     
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    To make things clear you read manga with your ass.
    Or just want to annoy some people.



    I don't know, where the hell did you get the idea of blade being harder to compose, than a sphere of rotating in different directions chakra..

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  26. Sorrow-Tear's Champion

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    One of the things people have missed about Sasuke's form manipulation is that it was solid chakra. Blood does not stick to chakra. But Orochimaru's blood was dripping off of Sasuke's raiton sword like it was a physical blade. The only thing similar to that is rasengan, and I'm not sure rasengan would be considered solid like that.
     
  27. Grandmaster Kane

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    Well lets look at the facts

    Sasuke can make his chakra into a sword Sword = pwnage
    Naruto can from his into what is pretty much a grenade Grenade = omfg i just got ass raped

    Ass raped > pwned
     
  28. Sorrow-Tear's Champion

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    That's comparing destructive power, not form manipulation.
     
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    Sasuke's lightning sword is obviously a very high level of form manipulation. It surprised Oro that Sasuke was able to do this and just a few pages ago Oro praised Sasuke for making him look like nothing at the same age.

    But I can say for certain that it isn't of a higher level than FR. FR is a combination of nature manipulation and the highest level of form manipulation. And besides all of that it requires a special knack.

    Sasuke's "that jutsu" will be comparable to FRS, but not the lightning sword.
     
  30. Noble Avenger

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    I think you are wrong. Parallels are drawn the entire series between these guys, this is another.

    Sasuke is clearly better versed when it comes to elemental manipulation, while Naruto has the edge in form manipulation.

    I get what you are saying, but let's take Nagashi for example. It is a jutsu beyond even Kakashi's scope, and Kakashi has a lightning affinity. The jutsu forms Chidori, and then sends the current throughout the body. It isn't shaping it at all, just controlling and dispersing it. It's easily S-Rank, but doesn't require that much shape manipulation.

    I'm sure Sasuke can perform Rasengan after seeing/copying it once, because he's definitely better at form manipulation than Kakashi (Raiton Sword), but NOT Naruto, who's form manipulation is so good he can take the highest form of that and bind simple elemental manipulation.

    This is just another parallel guys.

    Sasuke's Speed vs Naruto's Trickery/Luck
    Sasuke's Sharingan vs Naruto's Kage Bushin
    Sasuke's Cursed Seal vs Naruto's Kyuubi
    Sasuke's Genjustu vs Naruto's Wealth of Chakra/Stamina
    Sasuke's Elemental Manipulation vs Naruto's Shape Manipulation
    Sasuke's Sword (Taijutsu) vs Naruto's ? He needs some weapons

    And for elemental conflicts wars, we'll have Lightning vs Wind vs Fire vs [Water] vs Lightning IMO

    Naruto could NEVER do something like Sasuke's Raiton Sword, because it requires

    S-Class Elemental Manipulation
    A-Class Shape Manipulation

    just like Sasuke can't do FRS with Lightning, because it requires

    A-Class Elemental Manipulation
    S-Class Shape Manipulation

    get it? Most ninja can't get that high in either, and no shinobi can get there in both. Kakashi, for example, is A-Rank in both, and thus his best ninjutsu is going to be Raikiri. A powerful, S-Rank jutsu, but not much compared to Sasuke's new Raiton abilities. If Kakashi gets close enough, he gets blown away by Nagashi. Sasuke could get close enough, but doesn't need to with that Chidori Katana.

    Get it guys?
     
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