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Should calcs be OBD threads?

Discussion in 'Meta Battledome' started by La speranza, Feb 28, 2014.

  1. La speranza

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    Memories grow sweeter with time, but it seems that OBD is having less and less threads and the amount of actual debate is very minimal.

    Could this be because the actual debate is done in the calcs, before the threads are made? The threads are just now about citing the calcs which have given the numbers for their feats. This section has became almost unnecessary with the calcs deciding everything. This in not a rant against that system however, just that the calcs where the real debate is should also be in the Battledome.
     
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    a lot of it takes place in the blogs, yes, but you get debate in the section itself whenever they're cited quite often

    MSBD, shit as it is, is a prime example
     
  3. Nevermind

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    At any rate, things in this regard aren't gonna change.
     
  4. willyvereb

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    Calculation threads in general were often awful actually.
    I'm kind of glad we moved these to the blogs.
     
  5. Shiba D. Inu

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    @ OP nope .


    and in the blogs they are nicely categorized within users blogs
     
  6. willyvereb

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    Also if calculations would be still only made in the Meta dome then you could bet that they'd have never become this popular.
    Moving them to the blogs was a great idea back then.
    They're far easier to keep track now, as well.
     
  7. Tacocat

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    Yeah, I imagine it'd be quite the bitch having to sift through a million and one threads to reference calcs. At least with the current system calcs are cataloged in users' personal blogs, and you'll generally know who to look for when researching a series.

    Also, the people who regularly debate in the blogs are generally calc savvy. We don't need more trolls than we already have complaining about shit they don't understand.
     
  8. willyvereb

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    Well, there's nothing to prevent people who post in the OBD to post in the blogs.
    And besides everyone has the right to voice their opinion.
    People who are less knowledgable in this thing should approach this with more humility, though.

    What makes the blogs a better place for even these calc discussion is that the blog author has limited moderator powers over there.
    Meaning if a discussion turns into shitstorm they can actively work against it.
    So I have absolutely nothing to do.
    :noworries
     
  9. Crimson King

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    This gives me an idea


    Why don't we have a thread that indexes all the calc blogs for quick and easy searching
     
  10. KaiserWombat Retired Staff

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    I almost certainly second this notion.

    Newcomers can get a sense for the general vibe of versus 'rankings' of the more popularly used fictions and characters in the OBD and at least should help filter out some of the most basic/repetitive topics, older posters don't need to wade through pages of comment sections on the blogosphere to confirm possible alteration on long-standing feat analyses, etc.

    I wouldn't have the time to properly organise this at the moment, but I could probably set up and sticky an appropriate thread in the Metadome in about a week's time. It wouldn't be all that difficult to manage as well, so long as one of the OBD mods are alerted by the calc creator about potential revisions or discontinuity of their work via VM for editing purposes.
     
  11. willyvereb

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    Yeah, Kaiser hit the nail here.
    The OBD should have a thread to link most of the calc blogs at least and such.
    But no one really got the time for it.
     
  12. Tacocat

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    Well I meant more along the lines of signup and MvC trolls. Lord knows we don't need them invading all of the Bleach/DB/what-have-you calcs saying, "If it's not galaxy-level, it's wrong and I will do everything in my power to refute it," or something similar. The blogs are rather more isolated from that stuff than the Battledomes are, it seems.

    I'd actually seek to encourage more members to get involved with calcs, tbh; generally speaking calcs aren't very difficult, and it'd be easier to cover more ground so to speak.
     
  13. Raidou Kuzunoha

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    A calc index thread would be fine.

    Just be ready to dump your 300+ calcs on errthing and their mother.
     
  14. Tacocat

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    Why don't we just establish indexes for each series? Each calcer will be responsible for posting his/her own calculations for the specified verse, plus a brief description of the feat/numerical value and how it applies to the verse, and whoever established the index can organize them. Then create an index for the indexes and sticky that, so whenever another series's calcs are compiled, the thread can be logged.

    Would be a lot more reasonable than just dumping links to calcs and expecting someone to just take care of all of them.
     
  15. La speranza

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    There should definitely at least be a thread that explains what calcs are and has like all calcs of speed, destructive capacity etc. in an order so we can avoid all of the Naruto vs Luffy newbie threads.

    It's not like they can be blamed for making them when the OBD rules as far as I know don't even mention calculations.
     
  16. Nighty the Mighty

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    fuck it

    we're doing this.

    we're making it happen.
     
  17. Fujita

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    I've actually pondered this idea

    But if people who've experienced calc threads say they're a bad idea, I'd say go with that

    However

    We could really, really use one thread that serves as a calc directory, preferably with some easy indication of results (so it could double as an energy list, of sorts)

    I know that GM had a running calc directory in his blog, but it's long outdated, and there were several energy lists in blogs as well... which I think suffer from the same problem

    Making a single thread that could be maintained would help with this a lot, and would help to make calcs more visible
     
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    I'm gonna make a calc list thread.

    lets see how this goes.
     
  19. Tacocat

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    So this isn't a thing at all?
     
  20. Kazu

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    It'd probably be a better idea since it would put less burden on one person to update the list.
     
  21. Tacocat

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    You also wouldn't have to deal with shit like character limits nearly as much.
     
  22. Kazu

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    Can we put it on the wiki when it gets put up? It might be easier that way, just to put calcs on the series page.
     
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    Posting here for reference.
     
  24. Shiba D. Inu

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    it'll die out in the long run as the previous attempts did :(


    the only real solution is (if you're interested) to lurk the blogs every day and put all the calcs into your mind palace :maybe
     
  25. Regicide

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    There are people who don't do this? :psyduck
     
  26. jetwaterluffy1

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    I wouldn't say calc lists are a bad idea. I'd just say that it's generally too much work for one person to sustain. If someone wants to make one I'd suggest they appoint other people as vice leaders of it or something.
     
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