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Discussion in 'The Konoha Times' started by ane, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    If you count the Gold Member status upgrade it's the second, technically.


    Then niggas should stop browsing anime forums on computers from the 80s. But really, how would something that is literally the same size use more resources? Seriously, I ain't a computer nerd so I don't know. Niggas should just turn off sigs at that point. Like, really, it's been okay for over a decade.
     
  2. Ignition Trinitarian Rhapsody

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    Maybe forbid animated signatures and avatars if lag is the excuse here.
    Seriously though, there's no way tall sigs won't load unless you still have windows xp or something.
     
  3. Sayaka <img src="http://i.imgur.com/i2cLFyA.png">

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    Well another thing is tall sigs are just so annoying to many people (hence why most people turn the option off). Though maybe upping it to 700x400 is a better option?
     
  4. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    Or do it like how current SotW rules are and have it be anything that adds up to 1000 (if those are still the rules, unless it changed and nobody told me) though even not that much. I don't need no 700 height, but shit, gimme something to work with, niggas.
     
  5. Nighty the Mighty I swim in outer space Super Moderator

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    I actually forced this through using my tazmo connections because I dislike wallpaper sigs

    you're welcome :handshake
     
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  6. Marco Who wants to be King? Retired Mod

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    Think of it as going from 4:3 to 16:9 screens.

    You know, I remember thinking there was an upgrade, but couldn't find what the previous one was?

    What was it before the Gold upgrade?

    1. A lot of times you'll see decent hardware perform badly because of the way it's being used. A phone, for instance, is almost always on (phones are optimized for that, but still). And then there's the people who constantly have backgrounds apps running. Laptop users who don't shut down their systems for months and years on end. You know how when you quit a resource hungry game/program and then the computer takes a while to get back into shape? Imagine that, but weaker and on a longer/steadier scale. That shit piles up.

    2. It wouldn't in the same context. When you're scrolling most websites, you're doing it up down. So vertical dimensions matter more. If you were scrolling left to right, horizontally big images would be a bigger strain compared to vertical.
     
  7. Marco Who wants to be King? Retired Mod

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    That's not to say that the load is the reason that this size change happened. I am just explaining the problem Sayaka faces.
     
  8. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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  9. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    That doesn't help me.



    Non-Gold members capped at 1MB filesize. Gold members got 2MB filesize.



    1. Then don't browse NF while doing shit

    2. But wouldn't it still have to register everything horizontally (scrolling vertically) so it would feasibly still take just as long as a vertical image that doesn't have as many horizontal pixels to load?
     
  10. Aphrodite Global Moderator

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    @Marco Stop being so freaking cute.

    @Rey all you got to do is center your little render maybe add a border or not. Then make some little heart links under it where your linking to the profiles of your favorite people on nf and you will be good to go. It will still be small but you can work with it. Trust me. :hehee Glad i can help you out.
     
  11. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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  12. Trinity Per aspera ad inferi Super Moderator

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    Now now, Krory, settle down or I'll have to get the broom

    How often do you use tall signatures like those ones?
     
  13. Vino

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    >signatures
    >2017

    c'mon
     
  14. Aphrodite Global Moderator

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    Fine see if I try to help again. :pek
     
  15. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    Good.

    Don't.
     
  16. Marco Who wants to be King? Retired Mod

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    Well, that's life. What help do you need, anyway?

    Ah, so the dimensions remained the same?

    Did you read what I wrote? Ain't about NF what I'm saying. You've got the impression here that I'm explaining why this sig size change happened. I'm not. I'm explaining the issue Sayaka has had to deal with.

    Not sure what you're saying here.

    But to expand on my point earlier, think about it this way:

    You have 20 images on a page. Each is 500 pixels high and 1000 pixels wide. Intuitively, you know already that scrolling through these up-down is going to take less time than left-right, because that'd be half the number of pixels you have to scroll.

    So if you're being throttled by your CPU while your download speeds are more than adequate, for instance, you will probably experience lag/stuttering while you scroll.

    If you want to test this, create an image that is 50,000 pxl long and only 3,000 pxl wide. Save it, and open it on your browser. Now, the image is already fully loaded on the page. But you'll probably notice slight lag and stuttering while you scroll through those 50K pixels to get to the bottom.
     
  17. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    Financial and emotional support wouldn't be too bad.


    Yeah. 550x500 for seniors and I forget about non-seniors. 450x400 or something? I forget.


    But the current issue is about NF signatures. I'm pretty sure we aren't deciding sig sizes for the entirety of the internet. I'm not sure even Tazmo has that kind of power.


    But we were talking about computer performance so actual scrolling effort of a fraction of a second doesn't equate to that. And again, would not a CPU still have to download the same amount of pixels whether they are horizontal or vertical providing they are the same exact filesize? And the 50,000pxl wide and 3,000 long wouldn't have the same effect?
     
  18. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    I probably wouldn't even wear a sig like that anyway.

    Literally everyone but me has sigs turned off so no one would appreciate it. :catippy
     
  19. Marco Who wants to be King? Retired Mod

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    I can give you emotional support.

    So if dimensions remained same during that upgrade, this is indeed the first time sig dimension limits have been changed in over 7 years.

    See, you asked Sayaka why 700x300 would be a different experience for him than 300x700. I'm just explaining that. That doesn't have to do with NF. That has to do with any website he comes across. Or others who're having similar problems.

    Like I said before, if you want to discuss actual NF sig size change, that's not what I brought this whole thing up for. This was never once considered when deciding on size change and has nothing to do with the size change.

    Please try the experiment I asked you to. If you can't recreate it, try with 100x dimensions because your computer is in top shape (very niiice!).

    If you still can't recreate it, just accept that some of us just don't have the resources, financial or mental, to get the buttery smooth PC master race performance you're enjoying.
     
  20. Marco Who wants to be King? Retired Mod

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    Again, you're thinking I'm making some giant point about why sig sizes have been changed.

    The idea behind asking you to try that experiment is to see if you can recreate the kind of problems Sayako faces. Not that you'll actually have to load such an image ever.
     
  21. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    That's what they all say.


    Sig dimension limits, yes. But you just said sig size. But I'm just being a dick over semantics.



    Then what does have to do with it?



    Trust me, I ain't enjoying anything buttery smooth - who do you think I am, one of those 180FPS nerds? And a simple "yes" or "no" would do to my previous question. You guys don't always have to go into some big explanation.
     
  22. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    No, I'm thinking I'm not as invested in this as it seems because I'm not going to utilize what I'm arguing about anyway.

    Sheesh, you people always think it's about you.
     
  23. Marco Who wants to be King? Retired Mod

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    I'm not like your other women.

    To be fair, it's quite obvious from the comment chain that we were talking about dimensions.

    I can't speak for all staff, but personally, I prefer a wider signature.

    Our old limit was only around because:

    1. VBulletin with the default skin being skinny af.
    2. Old display norms, considering our sig dimensions have been the same since the last decade.

    Which previous question are you talking about? I'm sorry, I'm just trying to answer your question, with the explanations.
     
  24. Marco Who wants to be King? Retired Mod

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    Well, if you're ever again curious about the problem Sayaka cited, you can check it by using the experiment I suggested.
     
  25. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    Yes, again, I was just being an asshole.


    Wider sigs in general did look nice but it was fun sometimes to just have a render of reasonable size and not one as tiny as one of our female staff representatives. Could make for a nice look.


    I asked would one of 10,000px width and 4,000px (I think those were the dimensions) height not cause the same or similar effect of lag as one of 10,000px height and 4,000px width?
     
  26. Marco Who wants to be King? Retired Mod

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    Maybe there's a connection, homie?

    You mean, 300x height is not enough compared to 500x, right? Let's give it a try for a few months and see, I say.

    Well, first, these figures are just examples and may vary wildly from system to system. For simplicity, I'll just refer to it as Long-width and Long-height images.

    Like I said earlier, it would depend on the direction you're scrolling in. If you're scrolling up-down on long-height images, you'll probably have the same issues as scrolling left-right on long-width images.

    It's not the file dimension or size itself that usually contributes to the lag/stutter. It's usually that the CPU is being taxed due to the various programs being run and it's general state due to overuse. So when you try to do things quickly, you get interruptions. If you scrolled through the same page slowly and with patience, you probably wouldn't have any problems.
     
  27. Magilou 「Maginpui~!!」

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    Damn... I never thought of that. Now I know what Bioness feels like.


    Yes, that's what I mean.


    I'll take that as a "no" then.
     
  28. Seraphiel Eastern European Sex Genocide

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    Tall sigs are ugly, adblocking is effort. Good job staff.
     
  29. Marco Who wants to be King? Retired Mod

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    You don't have to make it an LGBT thing, lol. My mistake though. I sometimes use the gender interchangeably online in such contexts. I just meant "partner" or "SO" etc. I am a guy, after all and referred to myself as a woman there.

    Well, it is a no as long as you're talking about NF or scrolling up-down. It would be a yes if you were comparing long-height on up-down with long-width on left-right scroll.
     
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    Or just disable sigs
     

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