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Since Vegeta and Goku > Broly based on chapter 70, is Vegeta > Uub as well?

Superstars

Well-Known Member
FR tho :mjlol

Guess the God scale is also till canon :mjlol

SSG Goku = 60% of Beerus

Beerus is now outclassed fodder confirmed :mjlol
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Compared to Beerus, God of Destruction, how strong is [Super Saiyan] God?

I suppose if Beerus’ strength is a 10, [Super Saiyan] God would be right about 6.


You guys still can't read that Toriyama keeps himself safe with the suppositions concerning Beerus.
Hence why the prophecy of the oracle fish remains FUTURE.

If breathing was an intentional reflex many of you here would choke.:mjlol
 

Superstars

Well-Known Member
Apparently thats you :mjlol


If the oracle fish is still correct than so is the god scale :mjlol

Cant pick and choose what you want from outdated information bud
It's not outdated info since Toriyama didn't factually place Beerus at a ten.

That's why he can have Beerus be as strong as he wants. Like having Granolah, the strongest in the universe weaker than him!

Update your headcanon, it's 2021!:mjlol
 
It's not outdated info
Yeah it is :oldshrug
Toriyama didn't factually place Beerus at a ten.
Yes he did

He literally stated if he had to place PLs on them, Beerus is a 10 to SSGs 6

The supposition isnt there to tell us that the figures arent accurate in his mind (at the time), its there to tell us that theres no actual tangible list

Update your headcanon, it's 2021!
Says the kid relying on outdated info from fucking 2015 give or take :mjlol
 

Superstars

Well-Known Member
is that actually stated?
It is not. What is stated is that when 7-3 copy's a person it's as if that person is fighting an exact clone. With Meru's angel powers, Moro was stated to be equal with UI Goku. Moro's body not being able to handle that power does not change the fact that he actually HAD Merus's powers.
 

OneSimpleAnime

King of Kaiju
Too bad the manga itself disagrees with this headcanon
which is bullshit, was Beerus going to destroy his crystal? cause otherwise the earth would just blow up. Also, he would still have Goku helping him beat Moro, he wouldnt be doing it alone

either way, Beerus power has been retconned multiple times now, its just bad writing at this point
 

OneSimpleAnime

King of Kaiju
Same thing for power. We saw a prime example with Ginyu being utterly unable to use Goku’s body properly.

The current implication is that Beerus is still above Goku so the likelihood of Goku having beaten an Angel-tier opponent at full power are slim to none.
not how it works, hes not using someone elses body, hes just copying their power
 

DivineNero

Well-Known Member
which is bullshit, was Beerus going to destroy his crystal? cause otherwise the earth would just blow up. Also, he would still have Goku helping him beat Moro, he wouldnt be doing it alone

either way, Beerus power has been retconned multiple times now, its just bad writing at this point

For something to be retconned it has to have been previously known or fact and it was never fact or made clear if a certain character 100% surpassed Beerus nice try tho. As usual the typical bad writing or retcon rubbish yet the Oracle Fish made it clear and on going for years now that Goku and Vegeta will become his greatest rivals.

That hasn't happened yet so no there was no silly retcon just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it was a retcon. Plus the recent chapters is showing thanks to his mastery of Hakai Beerus is far more capable than what anybody thought as he himself said what he showed Vegeta was only a small glimpse of what he can really do.
 
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OneSimpleAnime

King of Kaiju
For something to be retconned it has to have been previously known or fact and it was never fact or made clear if a certain character 100% surpassed Beerus nice try tho. As usual the typical bad writing or retcon rubbish yet the Oracle Fish made it clear and on going for years now that Goku and Vegeta will become his greatest rivals.

That hasn't happened yet so no there was no silly retcon just cause you don't like it doesn't mean it was a retcon. Plus the recent chapters is showing thanks to his mastery of Hakai Beerus is far more capable than what anybody thought as he himself said what he showed Vegeta was only a small glimpse of what he can really do.
it was a retcon, Jiren > Belmod and Jiren doesnt even have Hakai or UI, and even LB Jiren couldnt take down MUI Goku. Goku has only grown by leaps and bounds since then and yet Beerus is still somehow far above him?
 
which is bullshit, was Beerus going to destroy his crystal? cause otherwise the earth would just blow up. Also, he would still have Goku helping him beat Moro, he wouldnt be doing it alone

either way, Beerus power has been retconned multiple times now, its just bad writing at this point
Nice headcanon but there's nothing there implying Beerus was going to tag team with Goku.
He's speaking to Whis, Jaco, and Krillin there in that panel.

EVEN IF your headcanon was true Beerus would be the one doing all the work since Goku himself outright LOST to Planet Moro.
 

The Strawberry Carrot Top

Limit Breaker Omen
Nice headcanon but there's nothing there implying Beerus was going to tag team with Goku.
He's speaking to Whis, Jaco, and Krillin there in that panel.

EVEN IF your headcanon was true Beerus would be the one doing all the work since Goku himself outright LOST to Planet Moro.
He only lost because he got ensnared and had his ki drained but once he tapped into ui again he overpowered planet moro and shattered the crystal. If beerus was in goku's position and got his energy drained no one knows what would've happened. Even if he was giving back his energy. Chances are he just would've gotten drained again. Goku used a new tech or ability to free himself. One beerus hasn't shown he could do.
 

OneSimpleAnime

King of Kaiju
Nice headcanon but there's nothing there implying Beerus was going to tag team with Goku.
He's speaking to Whis, Jaco, and Krillin there in that panel.

EVEN IF your headcanon was true Beerus would be the one doing all the work since Goku himself outright LOST to Planet Moro.
You think Goku is just going to stop fighting Moro when Beerus wanted to get involved? It was Goku’s fight, if anything he might be mad at Beerus interfering but would still work together to save earth
 

Bob74h

The Supreme King
It’s like Broly doesn’t exist within the manga continuity or maybe they forgot about him cause 2018 was a very long time ago
He was just a one off thing in a movie as to sell tickets, He will likely never appear again much like abokado in the yo son goku ova
 

DivineNero

Well-Known Member
yea Manga Vegito who is waaaay weaker than Gogeta from the movie and didnt even have MSSB which is a huge power boost.

Nice guess what nobody is talking about Gogeta and who said Vegito is way weaker oh yea your head canon nice try again.

DBS Broly SSB Gogeta is stronger than FT arc SSB Vegito that is a fact so idk why you bringing that up but show me where does ToP UI Goku or Jiren surpass SSB Vegito I'll wait.

I like how you do run arounds and twist things nice job my guy. This whole thing is about Beerus vs UI Goku and you want to bring up Gogeta lol. The manga has shown us how OP fusion is so if Vegito from the FT arc rivals Beerus and Goku still hasn't surpassed or rivaled him yet than guess what SSB Vegito is above ToP UI Goku see how simple that is.
 
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OneSimpleAnime

King of Kaiju
Vegetto did have CSSB. That's how Vegeta learned Goku had it. He never even needed it against Zamasu and was still comparable to Beerus
he didnt use it though
Nice guess what nobody is talking about Gogeta and who said Vegito is way weaker oh yea your head canon nice try again.

DBS Broly SSB Gogeta is stronger than FT arc SSB Vegito that is a fact so idk why you bringing that up but show me where does ToP UI Goku or Jiren surpass SSB Vegito I'll wait.

I like how you do run arounds and twist things nice job my guy. This whole thing is about Beerus vs UI Goku and you want to bring up Gogeta lol. The manga has shown us how OP fusion is so if Vegito from the FT arc rivals Beerus and Goku still hasn't surpassed or rivaled him yet than guess what SSB Vegito is above ToP UI Goku see how simple that is.
Broly MSSB Gogeta >>> FT arc SSB Vegito, the same Gogeta that had to put in some effort to put Broly down, which means Broly is > Beerus by a wide margin, and yet
 

DivineNero

Well-Known Member
he didnt use it though

Broly MSSB Gogeta >>> FT arc SSB Vegito, the same Gogeta that had to put in some effort to put Broly down, which means Broly is > Beerus by a wide margin, and yet

You and that fan fiction is atrocious and Gogeta didn't need to put that much effort he slapped him around easily so stop using made up nonsense. Have you read the recent chapters head canon specialist clearly you haven't and Broly was never definitively stated to be above Beerus and the recent chapters prove this. Now you said a wide margin you are laughable keep living in your delusions.
 
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