Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Shazam, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:01 PM.
Knowledge : Full
Location : Forest of Death
Jiraiya wins mqore often then not
--Sensing barrier and SM sensing to avoid feints
--Hair jutsu to counter shurikens, clones in CQC
--LOS blockers and clones usage along with danger sesning to avoid tsukyomi , amaterasu at such
--Frog call to stun Itachi to get an opening or Use large scale jutsu to force him to use MS and then capitalize on the openings he gives due to MS drawbacks
--Yomi numa to counter susanoo and Finally frog song ends it for itachi if he still remains alive
With this level of knowledge Jiraiya will wear down Itachi pretty decisively by fighting him indirectly, using LoS breakers and clones in unison with sensing to attack and defend. As Itachi isn’t a sensor and can’t risk getting hit by a Frog Kata, he will be forced into Susano almost immediately by Jiraiya Sage abilities up close and his casual large AoE.
At worst, Jiraiya wins via Frog Song. Jiraiya wins this.
Jiraiya escapes from Itachi's vision and almost all of Itachi's arsenal goes to shit, Jiraiya wins.
Could go either way.
Ends in mutual death most likely.
Leaning towards Jman
Itachi wins without too much problem.
Oh this thread again. It's been only done a thousand times before.
Itachi wins moderate difficulty.
Itachi wins with high to extremely high difficulty
Definitely wont be with moderate difficulty..This is alive version so he wont be at a 100%..Its gonna be atleast a high diff for either of them
If Jiraiya starts in base it's moderate diff imo.
Starting in SM? Jman Destroys him.
Start in base? could go either way
Kunais to distract his focus. Followed by Illusions.
Start in SM?? Jman will probably play the hit and run wear itachi till he is too weak to defend and then big ball rasengan his ass.
Can u guys explain Itachis winning methods
Susano'o speed, strengh combined with Totsuka, Yata and MS dynamic vision+precog absolutly obliterates him be it offensively or defensively.
With full knowledge, Itachi will have Susanoo from the get-go to defend from anything Jiraiya uses and will conserve Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi for the most opportune moments.
Jiraiya will try to run to use the frog song, but Itachi can follow and have Susanoo spam Magatama in the direction where the sound is coming from.
Itachi wins more times than not.
I don't even know anymore.
And while Itachi opts for Susanoo from the start, won't Jman opt for senjutsu enhanced YM?
If Yomi Numa did what you thought it does, that would be helpful. Instead he makes himself an open target for Amaterasu and Yasaka Magatama.
What is that supposed to mean?
It won't instantly submerge Itachi in Susanoo like you think it will. It didn't submerge Pain instantly.
It doesn't have to immediately dunk Susanoo. It'll still force Itachi to drop Susanoo, avoid the surrounding ground and re-erect Susanoo at which point cause for an opening with the combination of LoS blockers and ninjutsu
"The more you struggle, the more you sink"
"By changing the ground into mud and creating a swamp, the enemy is sunk deep underground...!! The adhesive, chakra-infused mud ensnares the enemy's body."
If Itachi ever has to let his Susanoo down, he'd be in danger of sage art bath of boiling oil which covers a decent range itself
The constant use of LoS blockers saves him from Ama and Genjutsu as well
Itachi has tricked sensors before, one with even on panel sensing abilities unlike Jiraiya, who we know he can have but... anyway.
With full knowledge this becomes a tricking contest, and Jiraiya is more gimped because he can quickly fall into genjutsu if he's not careful, and I don't go by "welp, he won't look at his eyes and that's it" as this goes against an inmense amount of portrayal and feats showing Sharingan Genjutsu is not so easily avoided.
B... but Madara..: Madara never used Genjutsu in his fights other than with the Raikage, who was being the only one who has been blocking the blades of Susano'o and these couldn't bypass his armor. In wich case, making him fall in Genjutsu and this dispelling his armor was likely needed for him to be taken down.
But Madara had to take advantage of him being distracted!: He is the freaking Raikage who was pretty fast to the point of maybe, Madara's Susano'os not being able to effectively time an eye contact. Jiraiya's not that fast.
Itachi's living so his stamina goes down fast: Itachi was on his deathbed. Unless Itachi's pretty sick and dying, his performance against Sasuke was spectacular for a man who was minutes away from death. Healthy Itachi's stamina won't be so easily depleted before he can land a killing blow on someone of the level of Jiraiya.
But again, this is a tricking contest thanks to the knowledge, and by feats, Itachi beats him as Jiraiya's best tricking feats were against a Pain who couldn't sense and had location advantage.
Not so easy for Itachi, though. But I see him winning more times than not.
But he had 12 damn eyes, and Jiraiya managed to elude them all ... make Itachi not see him, it will be easier. Kebari Senbon from behind is a certain death for Itachi.
He managed to hide and continue hiding. The moment he actually tried to defy Shared Vision he was taken down.
Itachi's Susano'o would wall any attack unless Jiraiya manages to hide perfectly before he can see him. Or might also target a clone.
But you must also take into account Itachi stamina. Susanoo can be forced out with YM.
And Jman did land attacks on pain after forcing preta to absorb a Katon and blinding another then landing a rasengan on animal path
It seems that you do not remember well, Jiraiya was in a bad condition to face Pain ... but still managed to elude all the Paths...with Shared vision. Itachi does not have Shared vision therefore it will be easier for Jiraiya.
I doubt Itachi will use Susano so immediately, Which can lead to his defeat due to the blindsides.