1. It's Time to Duel! Welcome to the NF Yu-Gi-Oh! Grand Championships. This tournament will span across 4 sections:
    Akihabara Lounge| Mafia | OBD |The Alley
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Welcome to the forums! Take a second to look at our Beginner's Guide. It contains the information necessary for you to have an easier experience here.

    Thanks and have fun. -NF staff
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Stop Scrolling!
    Attention - When discussing new chapters of an anime or manga, please use a source from the official list of approved sources. If you would like to contribute to the list, please do so in the suggestions section.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. If you write blogs about the current anime season (for linking) or like to add descriptions / impressions on certain series and like to add them to our wiki, then send us a ticket.
    Dismiss Notice

  5. BoOooOo!


    Come one, come all to the wondrously eerie Pumpkin Patch! Perform tasks and challenges each day to stock up on the mystical Pumpkin Coins and use them to exchange for grand forum prizes! Don't miss out on this once in a lifetime opportunity, don't fear that which lies beneath the surface!

    Schedule:
    Signups; October 10th - 15th
    Tasks and Challenges; October 15th - 29th
    Pumpkin Picking; October 30th - 31st
    Dismiss Notice

  6. A blank contract written with magical ink?! Check out our Spooktacular Trick or Treat Event.
    Dismiss Notice

SM Naruto vs Kakashi.

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Gin Ichimaru's Shadow, Jun 13, 2018.

Who would win?

  1. Kakashi wins both scenarios.

    1 vote(s)
    6.7%
  2. Kakashi wins 1st scenario and loses in 2nd.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Kakashi wins 2nd scenario and loses in 1st.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Naruto wins both scenarios.

    11 vote(s)
    73.3%
  5. Naruto wins 1st scenario and loses in 2nd.

    3 vote(s)
    20.0%
  6. Naruto wins 2nd scenario and loses in 1st.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Gin Ichimaru's Shadow Sanbantai taicho Ichimaru Gin

    Messages:
    4,284
    Likes Received:
    524
    Trophy Points:
    343
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2018
    Reputation:
    Flag:
    Poland
    1st scenario: Pain arc SM Naruto Vs Pain arc Kakashi.

    2nd scenario: War arc SM Naruto Vs war arc Kakashi.

    Manga knowledge.

    Place:Bee vs Sasuke.
     
    Tags:
  2. Bonly Fire Fist

    Messages:
    22,373
    Likes Received:
    1,956
    Trophy Points:
    1,569
    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2012
    Reputation:
    Flag:
    Egypt
    Basically it's Kamui or bust for Kakashi because he's gonna get beat around in CQC upon which he doesn't stand much of a chance and the range game doesn't favor Kakashi when Naruto can dodge/take whatever he dishes out as well as has FRS to get past any defense Kakashi can put up. So yeah Naruto would win more times then not
     
  3. The Death & The Strawberry No Fear

    Messages:
    4,167
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    1,443
    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Reputation:
    Catdank Faction:
    Naruto obliterates both rounds
     
  4. Gin Ichimaru's Shadow Sanbantai taicho Ichimaru Gin

    Messages:
    4,284
    Likes Received:
    524
    Trophy Points:
    343
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2018
    Reputation:
    Flag:
    Poland
    I think that too.:nice
     
  5. Android 3:16

    Messages:
    18,395
    Likes Received:
    3,296
    Trophy Points:
    1,619
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Reputation:
    Portrayal puts SM Naruto and his peer MS Sasuke comfortably above Kakashi based on their performance against a much, much more powerful opponents like Pain, the 5 Kages, Kurama, Danzo, Killer B ... etc

    But since the NBD is known for feats-whoring let's see who wins based on feats.

    Naruto is faster than Kakashi, he blitzed and counter-blitzed Shurado and the 3rd Raikage.
    He's much more physically superior to the point where one punch would kill Kakashi.
    SM Rasengan > Raikiri.
    Clones + blocking LOS trolls Kami all day.
    Kakashi got dogs while Naruto got giant toads.
    Naruto's feats of clone feinting Pain's shared vision between 3 paths are better than Kakashi's.
    Superior stamina. War arc Kakashi was worried about his chakra tank after using one clone and two Raikiris.

    Literally no way for Kakashi to win this fight.
     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2018
  6. Gin Ichimaru's Shadow Sanbantai taicho Ichimaru Gin

    Messages:
    4,284
    Likes Received:
    524
    Trophy Points:
    343
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2018
    Reputation:
    Flag:
    Poland
    I have good idea with creating this thread. Didn't I :kermit?
     
  7. Android 3:16

    Messages:
    18,395
    Likes Received:
    3,296
    Trophy Points:
    1,619
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Reputation:
    That's right :doge
     
  8. Tri

    Messages:
    2,316
    Likes Received:
    865
    Trophy Points:
    493
    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2016
    Reputation:
    Flag:
    Australia
    There’s no version of Kakashi that can beat SM Naruto bar DMS without the conditions being skewed in his favor.
     
  9. Kai R I N N I N G Retired Staff

    Messages:
    14,628
    Likes Received:
    566
    Trophy Points:
    819
    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2006
    Reputation:
    Naruto's doppelgangers are enhanced so Kakashi can't trade, allowing Naruto to feint even easier leading to Kakashi getting annihilated by any one of Naruto's Rasengan variants let alone a throne Rasenshuriken which ends the fight in an instant.
     
  10. Alita54 Alita>You

    Messages:
    8,304
    Likes Received:
    280
    Trophy Points:
    363
    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2010
    Reputation:
    Depends on how fast Kakashi goes for kamui.
     
  11. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,522
    Likes Received:
    917
    Trophy Points:
    694
    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2011
    Reputation:
    Naruto surpassed Kakashi in the Immortals Arc. Naruto added Sage Mode, two giant toads, the loyalty of Gamabunta, Fukasaka/Shima, and Frog Kata to his arsenal by the Pein Arc. Kakashi added almost nothing.
     
  12. Gin Ichimaru's Shadow Sanbantai taicho Ichimaru Gin

    Messages:
    4,284
    Likes Received:
    524
    Trophy Points:
    343
    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2018
    Reputation:
    Flag:
    Poland
    600th like :).
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
    • List
  13. cobe42 i really need to clean myself up

    Messages:
    358
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    118
    Joined:
    May 19, 2018
    Reputation:
    Sm naruto wins realistically since kakashi has never used his kumui for bfr purposes on the opposition as a game ender, sm naruto on the other hand should have superior stats and rasen- shurikens area of effect will be to difficult for kakashi to avoid.
     
  14. Shark Ikimasu yo

    Messages:
    9,993
    Likes Received:
    908
    Trophy Points:
    694
    Joined:
    May 8, 2010
    Reputation:
    If this were to happen in the manga, Naruto would probably troll Kamui with a bunshin or something.
     
  15. The_Conqueror Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    8,029
    Likes Received:
    2,648
    Trophy Points:
    1,518
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2016
    Reputation:
    Flag:
    Egypt, Switzerland, Sweden, Spain, Serbia, Russia, Portugal, Germany, France, Denmark, Croatia, Belgium, Uruguay, Peru, Colombia, Brazil, Argentina, Saudi Arabia, South Korea, Japan, Iran, Australia, Panama, Mexico, Costa Rica, Tunisia, Senegal, Nigeria, Morocco, Poland
    Naruto is quite suitable to take a long range kamui.
    It has been highlighted through the manga that he can troll people with his clones game
    Zabuza, neji , pain, even kaguya. It's basically ends with LOS blockers and FRS coming towards Kakashi which may be a transformation and all enough for Naruto to take kakashis back and finish him with rasengan.
     
  16. Maverick04 Out of touch

    Messages:
    4,210
    Likes Received:
    706
    Trophy Points:
    418
    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2017
    Reputation:
    Portrayal wise: Pain Arc SM Naruto is "In a league of his own" compared to others in the village.

    He also, with some knowledge, took down 5 Paths and wouldve done better against Tendo if it wasnt for Paa being killed and thrown at Naruto as a distraction..Whereas Kakashi (with backup) died facing two paths

    Feats wise:
    Naruto has the best (maybe the only person with) Frog Kata..He can throw blind punches..He genuinely has SM sensing / Danger sensing which would help him to counter Kakashi if he goes for a blindsided attack..Kamui can be dealt with by Naruto's Sage Sensing + Tajuu Kage Bunshin..But yea Kamui is Kakashi's only legit way to win this fight..He can try and Kamui a limb or two but with boss summon distraction, I dont think Kakashi would have a smooth sailing..WA Kakashi might do well against SM Naruto..Donno if he can win though..The only reason he was able to show such prowess with Kamui in WA was because he was constantly fed chakra..Once by Kyuubi, then healed by Sakura, then bijuu cloak..I would favor Naruto more times than not
     
  17. Sage light Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,674
    Likes Received:
    218
    Trophy Points:
    118
    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2017
    Reputation:
    I'd favor Naruto, in consideration of how much of a clone-expert he is, even better than Kakashi maybe.

    Scenario 2, I'd favor likely Kakashi? If he doesn't use a quick-clone-feint, he could likely be warped, by Kakashi, likely.
     
  18. sabre320 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,728
    Likes Received:
    406
    Trophy Points:
    213
    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2014
    Reputation:
    Scenaario 1 is a plain stomp....
    scenario 2 kakashi must literally go for a bloodlusted kamui at match start or he easily gets overwhelmed but here things becomes tricky...in the wararc kakashi was able to track a rushing bm clone and warp him so fast it fooled rinnegan obitos ms precog and a master kamui user himself, later he warped the gedo midsummon a feat so fast it left kcm minato astonished.
     
  19. Zero890 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,609
    Likes Received:
    401
    Trophy Points:
    264
    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2017
    Reputation:
    Smoke bombs make Kamui useless, Naruto destroys him with a Rasengan from where Kakashi can not see him (as he did against Pain).
     
  20. Hi no Ishi Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,397
    Likes Received:
    1,143
    Trophy Points:
    669
    Joined:
    May 3, 2017
    Reputation:
    Round 1 Naruto low diff.

    Round 2 Naruto High Diff

    Only because Kamui.
     
  21. Crimson Flam3s Rampage Sage

    Messages:
    4,093
    Likes Received:
    559
    Trophy Points:
    443
    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2010
    Reputation:
    I'm assuming Pain Arc Naruto starts in SM, if so then he wins scenario 1 most often than not.

    Kakashi wins scenario 2, he was able to track BM Naruto easily so Sage Naruto will be laughably easy to Kamui in most situations and ranges.
     
  22. savior2005 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,787
    Likes Received:
    453
    Trophy Points:
    414
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2012
    Reputation:
    Naruto definately wins scenario 1.

    idt kakashi can win scenario 2 at all. Yes, he has one shot kamui, but naruto can also essentially oneshot kakashi too whether its close range or long range. and naruto's a master of the clone feint game, so kakashi may end up kamui a clone.
     
  23. Android 3:16

    Messages:
    18,395
    Likes Received:
    3,296
    Trophy Points:
    1,619
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Reputation:
    In the second round he's facing war arc SM Naruto, who has things like Odama Rasengan barrage, OFRS, Kawazu Tataki, longer SM duration, wider sensing, and has war arc Gamakichi who can use SM himself. Kakashi gets curbstomped worse in 2nd scenario.
     
  24. savior2005 Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    6,787
    Likes Received:
    453
    Trophy Points:
    414
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2012
    Reputation:
    yes, that's why i said i dont think kakashi is winning at all, as in, he has pretty much no chance in hell. I was indirectly replying to those who said kakashi can win scenario 2, which idt has a chance of winning.
     
  25. Android 3:16

    Messages:
    18,395
    Likes Received:
    3,296
    Trophy Points:
    1,619
    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2015
    Reputation:
    I see.
    My apology then.
     
  26. The Death & The Strawberry No Fear

    Messages:
    4,167
    Likes Received:
    2,657
    Trophy Points:
    1,443
    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2016
    Reputation:
    Catdank Faction:
    Hundreds of clones make Kamui absolutely useless though
     
  27. Crow Small Might

    Messages:
    1,387
    Likes Received:
    182
    Trophy Points:
    239
    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2012
    Reputation:
    Catdank Faction:
    Kakashi IC rarely starts off a battle with Kamui. Even If he did I think Naruto can troll him with clones, or plain even sense the chakra buildup in his eyes and avoid it that way. Kakashi can't engage Naruto using taijutsu because Naruto has the frog kata and will win. Ninjutsu wise Naruto has clone feints and FRS. If he runs out of sage chakra he'll still beat him.
     
Loading...