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SM Naruto vs Kakashi.

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by Gin Ichimaru's Shadow, Jun 13, 2018.

Who would win?

  1. Kakashi wins both scenarios.

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  2. Kakashi wins 1st scenario and loses in 2nd.

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  3. Kakashi wins 2nd scenario and loses in 1st.

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  4. Naruto wins both scenarios.

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  5. Naruto wins 1st scenario and loses in 2nd.

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  6. Naruto wins 2nd scenario and loses in 1st.

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  1. Gin Ichimaru's Shadow 203176

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    1st scenario: Pain arc SM Naruto Vs Pain arc Kakashi.

    2nd scenario: War arc SM Naruto Vs war arc Kakashi.

    Manga knowledge.

    Place:Bee vs Sasuke.
     
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  2. Bonly Keyblade Master

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    Basically it's Kamui or bust for Kakashi because he's gonna get beat around in CQC upon which he doesn't stand much of a chance and the range game doesn't favor Kakashi when Naruto can dodge/take whatever he dishes out as well as has FRS to get past any defense Kakashi can put up. So yeah Naruto would win more times then not
     
  3. Serene Grace Prodigal Sage

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    Naruto obliterates both rounds
     
  4. Gin Ichimaru's Shadow 203176

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    I think that too.:nice
     
  5. Cosmos The Great Cosmos

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    Portrayal puts SM Naruto and his peer MS Sasuke comfortably above Kakashi based on their performance against a much, much more powerful opponents like Pain, the 5 Kages, Kurama, Danzo, Killer B ... etc

    But since the NBD is known for feats-whoring let's see who wins based on feats.

    Naruto is faster than Kakashi, he blitzed and counter-blitzed Shurado and the 3rd Raikage.
    He's much more physically superior to the point where one punch would kill Kakashi.
    SM Rasengan > Raikiri.
    Clones + blocking LOS trolls Kami all day.
    Kakashi got dogs while Naruto got giant toads.
    Naruto's feats of clone feinting Pain's shared vision between 3 paths are better than Kakashi's.
    Superior stamina. War arc Kakashi was worried about his chakra tank after using one clone and two Raikiris.

    Literally no way for Kakashi to win this fight.
     
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  6. Gin Ichimaru's Shadow 203176

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    I have good idea with creating this thread. Didn't I :kermit?
     
  7. Cosmos The Great Cosmos

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    That's right :doge
     
  8. Tri

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    There’s no version of Kakashi that can beat SM Naruto bar DMS without the conditions being skewed in his favor.
     
  9. Kai R I N N I N G Retired Staff

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    Naruto's doppelgangers are enhanced so Kakashi can't trade, allowing Naruto to feint even easier leading to Kakashi getting annihilated by any one of Naruto's Rasengan variants let alone a throne Rasenshuriken which ends the fight in an instant.
     
  10. Alita54 Alita>You

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    Depends on how fast Kakashi goes for kamui.
     
  11. Orochimaruwantsyourbody Well-Known Member

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    Naruto surpassed Kakashi in the Immortals Arc. Naruto added Sage Mode, two giant toads, the loyalty of Gamabunta, Fukasaka/Shima, and Frog Kata to his arsenal by the Pein Arc. Kakashi added almost nothing.
     
  12. Gin Ichimaru's Shadow 203176

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    600th like :).
     
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  13. cobe42 Member

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    Sm naruto wins realistically since kakashi has never used his kumui for bfr purposes on the opposition as a game ender, sm naruto on the other hand should have superior stats and rasen- shurikens area of effect will be to difficult for kakashi to avoid.
     
  14. Shark Taking a break

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    If this were to happen in the manga, Naruto would probably troll Kamui with a bunshin or something.
     
  15. The_Conqueror Well-Known Member

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    Naruto is quite suitable to take a long range kamui.
    It has been highlighted through the manga that he can troll people with his clones game
    Zabuza, neji , pain, even kaguya. It's basically ends with LOS blockers and FRS coming towards Kakashi which may be a transformation and all enough for Naruto to take kakashis back and finish him with rasengan.
     
  16. Maverick04 Well-Known Member

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    Portrayal wise: Pain Arc SM Naruto is "In a league of his own" compared to others in the village.

    He also, with some knowledge, took down 5 Paths and wouldve done better against Tendo if it wasnt for Paa being killed and thrown at Naruto as a distraction..Whereas Kakashi (with backup) died facing two paths

    Feats wise:
    Naruto has the best (maybe the only person with) Frog Kata..He can throw blind punches..He genuinely has SM sensing / Danger sensing which would help him to counter Kakashi if he goes for a blindsided attack..Kamui can be dealt with by Naruto's Sage Sensing + Tajuu Kage Bunshin..But yea Kamui is Kakashi's only legit way to win this fight..He can try and Kamui a limb or two but with boss summon distraction, I dont think Kakashi would have a smooth sailing..WA Kakashi might do well against SM Naruto..Donno if he can win though..The only reason he was able to show such prowess with Kamui in WA was because he was constantly fed chakra..Once by Kyuubi, then healed by Sakura, then bijuu cloak..I would favor Naruto more times than not
     
  17. Sage light Well-Known Member

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    I'd favor Naruto, in consideration of how much of a clone-expert he is, even better than Kakashi maybe.

    Scenario 2, I'd favor likely Kakashi? If he doesn't use a quick-clone-feint, he could likely be warped, by Kakashi, likely.
     
  18. sabre320 Well-Known Member

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    Scenaario 1 is a plain stomp....
    scenario 2 kakashi must literally go for a bloodlusted kamui at match start or he easily gets overwhelmed but here things becomes tricky...in the wararc kakashi was able to track a rushing bm clone and warp him so fast it fooled rinnegan obitos ms precog and a master kamui user himself, later he warped the gedo midsummon a feat so fast it left kcm minato astonished.
     
  19. Zero890 Well-Known Member

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    Smoke bombs make Kamui useless, Naruto destroys him with a Rasengan from where Kakashi can not see him (as he did against Pain).
     
  20. Hi no Ishi Well-Known Member

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    Round 1 Naruto low diff.

    Round 2 Naruto High Diff

    Only because Kamui.
     
  21. Crimson Flam3s Rampage Sage

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    I'm assuming Pain Arc Naruto starts in SM, if so then he wins scenario 1 most often than not.

    Kakashi wins scenario 2, he was able to track BM Naruto easily so Sage Naruto will be laughably easy to Kamui in most situations and ranges.
     
  22. savior2005 Well-Known Member

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    Naruto definately wins scenario 1.

    idt kakashi can win scenario 2 at all. Yes, he has one shot kamui, but naruto can also essentially oneshot kakashi too whether its close range or long range. and naruto's a master of the clone feint game, so kakashi may end up kamui a clone.
     
  23. Cosmos The Great Cosmos

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    In the second round he's facing war arc SM Naruto, who has things like Odama Rasengan barrage, OFRS, Kawazu Tataki, longer SM duration, wider sensing, and has war arc Gamakichi who can use SM himself. Kakashi gets curbstomped worse in 2nd scenario.
     
  24. savior2005 Well-Known Member

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    yes, that's why i said i dont think kakashi is winning at all, as in, he has pretty much no chance in hell. I was indirectly replying to those who said kakashi can win scenario 2, which idt has a chance of winning.
     
  25. Cosmos The Great Cosmos

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    I see.
    My apology then.
     
  26. Serene Grace Prodigal Sage

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    Hundreds of clones make Kamui absolutely useless though
     
  27. Knight of Chaos Uchiha Slayer

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    Kakashi IC rarely starts off a battle with Kamui. Even If he did I think Naruto can troll him with clones, or plain even sense the chakra buildup in his eyes and avoid it that way. Kakashi can't engage Naruto using taijutsu because Naruto has the frog kata and will win. Ninjutsu wise Naruto has clone feints and FRS. If he runs out of sage chakra he'll still beat him.
     
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