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So if Shanks has been a Yonkou in young age

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Kishido, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. Kishido Well-Known Member

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    does it hypes him or dehypes the title of Yonkou and it isn’t surprising that Luffy is considered as one?
     
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  2. Gledania Yeah but no.

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    Luffy is concidered as a yonko becaiuse of a lie (defeating BM).
     
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  3. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    Two different scenarios here.

    With Luffy there there is an asterisk that went along his title because it was based off of misinformation from Morgans.

    For Shanks we dont know of any such thing.
     
  4. mob Ningen destroyer

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    Akainu by Oda admision being capable of becoming PK in 1 year already took a masive dump on yonkou title.
     
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  5. Seraphoenix Stormblessed

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    All it does is hype Shanks. He is after all the main character's goal and the person he most wants to be like.

    I mean wasn't Kizaru for instance still a Vice-Admiral at 37 or 39?

    If he was the protagonist. Reading comprehension is in short supply here.
     
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    I absolutely refuse to believe he was an Emperor when he saved Luffy from a fish.

    If he became one years later, that is cool.
     
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  7. Seraphoenix Stormblessed

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    Oda never planned to make him lose his arm. His editor at the time though said the chapters needed to be more interesting. This led to Oda making Shanks lose his arm.

    He has said before that plot>consistency
     
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  8. Djomla Student

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    Cool, but

    Emperor losing an arm to a fish soloed by chapter 1 fodder Luffy is no Emperor. I don't care whether the decision was made by Oda, his wife, editor, a kindergarten kid or the God Almighty. It just doesn't work.
     
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  9. Seraphoenix Stormblessed

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    What you care about is irrelevant when it comes to author statements:kanyeshrug. In Oda's world he has no problem sacrificing portrayal for the sake of the narrative's needs.
     
  10. Gledania Yeah but no.

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    Things like that can happen. If you're swimming like a hell to save someone's ass from a monster and you realize he is so much near him that he could bite him in less than 0.1 sec you don't really have the time to think , you just jump toward the person to save her.
     
  11. mob Ningen destroyer

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    So what does that change exactly
     
  12. Gledania Yeah but no.

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    Tamatebako ... plot armor ... Everyone want to help you for whatever reason like in naruto ..ect ect ect ...

    43
     
  13. Shiba D. Inu ( ° ͜ʖ͡°)╭∩╮

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    If Mihawk had a good crew, he would be real 5-th yonkou 13+ years ago :maybe


    He was already good enough to duel one pre-crippling




    Oda didnt give him a crew to keep the number at 4 :catshivers
     
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  14. Gledania Yeah but no.

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    :bury:blessed

    :zamahug
     
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    Still has his hype even at a young age.
     
  16. Louis-954 Well-Known Member

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    All he meant was that if he took the same journey as Luffy (with the same plot shield) he would accomplish the goal much faster. Do you really expect Akainu, a high level haki user with complete devil fruit mastery to struggle against the likes of Krieg, Stlong, Crocodile, Lucci, Hody??? Of course you don’t.

    He wouldn’t have needed to take a two year time skip to get stronger before jumping into the New World either, he’s lived and breathed that place for decades now. He knows the territories, he knows all the big names, etc. Luffy is armed with none of that knowledge and isn’t quite as powerful yet.

    Oda’s statements isn’t a knock against the Yonkou.
     
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  17. DiscoZoro20 Ōka Shichibukai

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    It neither hypes or dehypes the title because all that means is that Shanks has a greater growth rate than people expected. The portrayal, feats and hype we got before this info remain the same.
     
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    Other than Whitebeard, The title of Emperor hasn't been impressive. So it's not surprising Luffy can be considered as one since the bar is so low after Newgate.
     
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    Come at me.

    Whitebeard was truly the only guy shown to be worthy of his emperor status. The strongest, He rivaled the pirate king, closest to one piece, had unworldly power.

    We get to cake land and see Pennywise's gigantic wife struggle to handle rookies.
     
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    To be fair even though BM is a retard its Oda's fault she looked so awful because he couldn't think of a better way to power up Luffy to FM level without sending them straight to her island.

    Unfair to include Shanks too since the OP world seems to know literally nothing about him.
     
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    Shanks did say it's finally time for them to meet again. Luffy is ready to challenge Shanks.
     
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    Not yet my friend, not yet lol
     
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    Shanks said "soon". Soon is like a year or more in real life time
     
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    I'm not really bothered that Shanks is a yonkou prior to meeting Luffy as the concept of yonkou probably wasn't formulated then and was later necessary to differentiate them from the rest of the pack.

    Hypewise, nothing seems to have changed. He always was described as a great pirate and this has been portrayed consistently be it through actual panels of him or through opinions of others when describing him.
     
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    He was probably a Yonko off the strength of bein Roger's golden boy
     
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    That probably played a part too, seeing how Luffy's "fifth emperorship" was in part due to his family lineage/connections.
     
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    Shanks just has no feats on the level of Whitebeard. Oda's bad writing for Big meme doesn't change his intentions of trying to make her look great. In all fairness, we see how Whitebeard stands above the rest. There is a drop off.
     
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    Not really, Luffy defeated BM due to taking what he wanted. He didn't go there to defeat BM in combat, he went there for taking Sanji back and stopping BM's plan, and he did that. Plus defeated Katakuri and Cracker in single combat, (two of BM's top 3 commanders) which is a success alone.
     
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    Shanks is probably a genius at fighting. I have no doubt in mind that when shanks and mihawk go all out... it's going to be insane and would put all the other top tiers' feats to shame.

    Oda intended for one piece to last 5 years originally or some shit like that. And if you look at early one piece, shanks and mihawk stand out as the top dogs of the series until stretched the story to extreme lengths.

    His original characters will still play the role he intended for them. Mihawk and shanks are up for great things just wait.
     
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