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Solo: A Star Wars Story [May 25th 2018]

Discussion in 'Konoha Theatre' started by tari101190, Jul 7, 2015.

  1. Fang Titan

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    I absolutely can not wait to see how this disaster plays out. I don't think there is a ever a single movie that's gone through so many reshoots, director and writer changes, and these kind of problems and ever turned out well.
     
  2. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    "Casino Royale (1967)" might qualify. Went through a bunch of writers, directors and actually apparently changed genres at some point during filming. They had to fire the star Peter Sellers because he was being so difficult, forcing them to write in an excuse as to why the protagonist is only in it sporadically before being unceremoniously killed off before the 3rd act even begins. In the original theatrical version, they had to use a cardboard cut-out of him during one scene (it has since been replaced digitally).

    It turned out to be a fascinating trainwreck, so...if "Han Solo" has to be bad, let it be fascinatingly bad.

    One of the "Exorcist" sequels was almost completely re-shot and edited using a different director. They then released the original cut on DVD. I've only seen the theatrical one, but I hear they're almost entirely different.

    "Cursed" was always directed by Wes Craven, but apparently the movie had to be completely re-shot with an entirely different cast. Irritangingly, Rick Baker's effects work was scrapped in favor of shitty CGI.

    "Smokey and the Bandit 3" had Jackie Gleeson play both Smokey and the Bandit...for some reason...but it failed so badly with test audiences that they re-shot about half of the movie, casting someone else as the bandit.

    Ummm....Oh yeah, "Superman 2" had its director replaced even though most of the filming was almost done, had about half of his footage removed and replaced with campier footage.

    So yeah, it happens more often than people realize, but does not bode well for the Han Solo remake. Even if they somehow manage to put together a decent product, I can't imagine them making much of a profit because the budget has to be HUGE by this point. All of these movies are expensive, but you know the original directors had to be paid, Ron Howard is not cheap and re-shoots are always very costly. I just heard that Mark Wahlberg got paid $1,500,000 for some re-shoots on "All the Money in the World", so I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up becoming one of the most expensive films of all time.
     
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  3. Fang Titan

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    And those reshoots all happened within four months of its release?
     
  4. RAGING BONER Rape Culture Enthusiast

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    this might be an inadvertent classic of terrible cinema
     
  5. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    I'm not sure. I know in a few cases, they simply pushed the release date back...which I still expect the Han Solo movie to do. I mean, f@ck, "Cursed" had its production shut down for a year to re-organize everything. I guess the problem is if they delay Han Solo, then they'd also have to delay Episode 9...that's the only reason I could see them rushing through this production.

    Hmmm, "Fantastic Four (2015)" might count. Josh Trank was never formally replaced as the director, but someone took over for the re-shoots and he was banned from the editing room. I seem to remember hearing that they were still working on finishing the movie almost right up until its release, but I could be mistaken about the time. Amusingly, I do remember Trank was supposed to work on one of these Star Wars flicks, but his conduct during "Fantastic Four" got him fired.
     
  6. Deer Lord living for dank memes

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    This movie is a hard pass for me
     
  7. Ennoea Red Light

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    They'e already pushed up the next star wars to May so I don't think they'll be delaying Han solo too much.

    Tbf editing is where a film is made. If they are smart they can make a half decent movie and get away with it.
     
  8. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    lol, some other ones I just remembered, even though once again, the release date was just postponed.

    "Hells Angels", a Howard Hughes movie, was shot as a silent film but then re-shot as a talkie, with real planes being used for the action scenes- resulting in the deaths of 3 pilots.

    "Jaws 2" also went through a change in directors, with all the original footage being scrapped and presumably lost. This offends me greatly.

    Troubled productions are always interesting to learn about, especially when they're recent.

    True. I personally think Han Solo will just be passable, but underwhelming. Disney- for all of its flaws- won't sabotage their own brand like that, especially after TLJ. However, they're probably paying so much money to salvage it that "Han Solo" will still be a failure on some level.
     
  9. Ben Grimm Kicking the Hulk's Ass

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    Disney will let this movie die, the same way they allowed Treasure Planet to die. If you think Disney wouldn't sabotage its own brand, you need a history lesson.

    The marketing and release of Treasure Planet was terrible and the sequel was cancelled despite having William Defoe on as an antagonist.

    Disney can be quite sinister at times.
     
  10. Fang Titan

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    The FF4 reboot movie was god awful though.
     
  11. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    Yeah that wasn't meant to be in favor of the Han Solo movie, lol. If Han Solo is as bad as that, the Star Wars brand is finished....for at least a decade.

    I didn't mean the Disney brand, as yes, "Treasure Planet" is a prime example. "Black Cauldron" also got screwed over.

    I meant the "Star Wars" brand. They put...4 billion into getting Lucasfilms? Not to mention the production costs for the movies. If Star Wars starts getting a bad rap, they will have lost money on their investment. "Star Wars" might not be as profitable as they were expecting, but it is still profitable. And if they were just going to let it die, then they wouldn't be scrambling with re-shoots.

    I'm wary of all of this, as "Rogue One" was pretty sloppy and you can tell there were re-shoots. "Justice League" was an even worse example, as not only could you tell they were reshoots, a lot of the reshoots looked cheap and isn't it the most expensive movie ever made at this point? Filming has become so costly that reshoots can lead to financial failure on their own, even if they are good.
     
  12. Ennoea Red Light

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    Wb screwed Justice League over. They didn't allow it much time in post production
     
  13. Zef Dark Magician

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    Can't wait to see how they butcher Han, and turn Lando into a caricature of the stereotypical bumbling black guy.

    The character assassination will be legendary.
    That's an official image?:bookerskully

    The guy playing Han looks lame, and Donald looks like he's bored on the cover.
    :tupac

    If this shit makes bank then SW is truly an immortal franchise. This crap feels lame as hell.:lmao
     
  14. Jake CENA BAH GAWD KING, IT'S JAKE CENA!!

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    wtf is that a parody movie? :hestonpls

    :troll
     
  15. The Kamal Haasan Crazy Hour Well-Known Member

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    They are handling it with the same efficiency as they do ESPN.
     
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    I wonder what the excuses for this movie is going to be.:kobeha
     
  17. mr_shadow Minister of State Security Moderator

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    This is a fake poster, right?

    Please?
     
  18. Fang Titan

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    Nope that is "real".
     
  19. Ennoea Red Light

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    It's not real. It says Directed by JJ Abrams.
     
  20. Fang Titan

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    Its actually because it says made by "x" fanartist at the very bottom too
     
  21. Sennin of Hardwork Tales to Astonish Moderator

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  22. Shiba D. Inu Will of the D.oge

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    ready to dive back into nu-SW :catbuff
     
  23. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    Well, that is the most basic plot description I've ever heard...
     
  24. Mider T VM Rapist

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    Maybe we'll finally get to see a Wookie rip some arms out of sockets.:distracted
     
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  25. Cardboard Tube Knight Best Girl Peach

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    Going to see this because Donald Glover.

    Wait till the new Flash movie, I think it's had 7 directors, there's been at least three scripts, they are getting rid of some of the cast that they shot scenes with for the Justice League movie (Iris West). And they are going to retool the whole thing to soft reboot. franchise 5 movies in.
     
  26. Fang Titan

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    Wasted optimism.
     
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    Who wrote this studio synopsis? A student who wants to go to college for marketing that they hired off of Craigslist?
     
  28. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    Apparently the trailer is going to be released Wednesday.
     
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    Shit, shit, shit!


    Okay, I'm ready.
     
  30. RAGING BONER Rape Culture Enthusiast

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    Star Wars: a Tax Write-Off story
     
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