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Some points about Netero

Discussion in 'Hunter x Hunter' started by Mr. Black Leg, Oct 18, 2018.

  1. Mr. Black Leg The Ordeal of Love

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    1 - Remember the guy is an Enhancer. So, either he got around the deal of only using 80%(Emission) and 60% (Manipulation) of his powers or, and emphasis on this, HE REALLY "JUST" HAVE 80% OF EFFICIENCY.
    2 - What the actual fuck must be his abilities in Enhancement ? Seriously, like, if those were his 80% and 60%, what the actual fuck is his 100% ? I wonder what would a punch from him actually be.
    3 - He was out of his Prime by a long margin in his fight with Meruem ... So, in his Prime, using Enhancement ... What the actual fuck must have been his strength ? Could he have killed Meruem ?
    4 - When was his Prime ? I mean he's at the very least 110.
     
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    Post Rose Meruem >> Pre Rose Meruem > Prime Netero > Old Netero
     
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    Actually we don't know for a fact that he is Enhancement type. It's never stated in the manga. It's from the databook which many don't treat as cannon due to multiple contradictions with the manga.
     
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    How can post rose meureum be top-tier, he was on his deathbed without a way to live. Melereon could take him if he played it right in the right locations.
     
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    Just regular enhancement obviously. Its good enough by itself.

    Hell no.

    Probably from 50-65 or something
     
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    What makes you so certain about that ? (I'm not trying to be beligerant, just trying to understand really)
     
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    Netero was a master of all the Nen types:

    1) Conjures the Guanyin Bodhisattva statue.
    2) Uses manipulation to attack with 100 different moves.
    3) His strongest technique, Zero Hand, uses emission and transmutation.
    4) The strength and speed of the statue comes from Netero's strength and speed, so enhanced physical abilities.

    An absolute Nen God! LOL
     
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    1/2 - You're ignoring how nen works, the buddha statue isn't made weaker by having 80% emission and 60% manipulation, it's not a flat de-merit, what actually going on is that with 80% emission, he's able to create the buddha statue,and with 60% manipulation, he's able to control it. Manipulation only needs to be good enough to make it replicate certain movements that he makes in unison more or less. Emission only needs to be good enough to create the statue. His nen statue wasn't 60% weaker than it could have been, he used those types to do very specific things and he had enough to do that. It's not a power meter, it's a "this is good enough for this function" meter. Also enhancers can infuse a weapon to make it stronger, which is probably what he did to the statue. Emission created the statue, Manipulation made it's movements match certain things he did, and enhancer boosted it.

    3 - If he was twice as fast, mereum wouldn't have ever hit him, even if you ignore his reaction time and stuff, meruem's body wouldn't have allowed him to keep up, and he'd have eventually died from x2 damage.
     
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    Hell yeah actually, the speed difference and reaction time difference would allow Meruem to never keep up with Netero enough to keep hitting his weaknesses. The increased strength would make the fight go faster plus his stamina would help probably too, but it's mainly the first two, meruem would eventually be dropped.
     
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    Nope, twice the speed and twice the reaction time would stop meruem from ever taking advantage of the gaps in netero's armor, the x2 attack would make the fight go twice as fast (which is still 100's of thousands of hits), netero wins in prime.

    Also Netero would have won against Meruem if Meruem never met Komugi to push his intelligence even further into godtier.
     
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    Nope
     
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    Are you saying Prime netero wins Post Rose Meruem or Pre Rose Meruem? He might have a shot at Pre Rose Meruem but not Post Rose Meruem
     
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    Meruem was playing with Netero and making a game out of beating him. If he was serious, he would probably just start throwing rocks or smashing him with stone pillars until Netero's stamina wore out.
     
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    Not a shot, he'd definitely beat pre rose meruem, you can have a perfect strategy and see through the opponent, but if you're going at a mecha with a toothbrush, you are going to get mowed down. Twice as powerful won't play too big of a part but it'll reduce the amount of hits in half at least, but the speed and perception of time would make meruem get trounced even if it takes an hour worth of hits.

    Post rose meruem is pretty unknown outside of "he's stronger than before"
     
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    Trash argument to pretty much undeniable fact, twice the speed from his old self is a huge thing, he was already too fast for meruem to keep up with.
     
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    Throwing rocks and hitting with pillars would have been less effective, are you implying that netero can't hit rocks away and stuff? Meruem wasn't playing with him, Netero was faster than him and only his god tier durability let him live long enough for his god tier intelligence he had that was heightened by komugi's matches to find the gaps.
     
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    Of course Netero can block rocks and stone pillars, but he can't block them longer than Meruem can throw them, not even close. All Meruem has to do is keep his distance and wear him down. The reason he didn't do that was because he had to keep Netero alive and because he wanted to show his superiority by taking on the challenge of finding a strategy to take advantage of Netero's openings. He was absolutely playing with him.
     
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    Throwing rocks would never penetrate Netero's defenses. Meruem had to find an opening himself, which took him thousands of hits, and his intellect was pushed to the maximum. If Meruem was playing around, he wouldn't have such a hard time hitting Netero.
     
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    Never? That's quite a long time. Unless you can show me where he was stated to have infinite stamina, I doubt that is true. Plus, he has to eat, sleep, shit, etc. Meruem can definitely out last him and Netero can never land a hit unless Meruem lets him. He was playing around. If he wasn't, he would have taken Netero's head instead of his leg on the first opening, but he couldn't because if he killed Netero, he would never learn his name.
     
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    It would take weeks, or maybe even months, before Netero runs out of stamina. Remember that an injured Binolt can last more than a week without basic needs.

    You're wrong. Netero's speed is much faster than Meruem's speed. This is a fact. All Meruem can do is take it until he can find an opening. If Meruem doesn't concentrate and push his intellect to the maximum, then he'll just be a rag doll for Netero.
     
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    So he would run out of stamina over time.

    The only thing Netero has that is faster than Meruem is his prayer speed and the attack speed of hyakushiki kanon. Movement-wise, Meruem is far, far superior. If Meruem wanted to stay out of the range of hyakushiki kanon, he could do so easily and indefinitely and Netero can't do anything to change that.
     
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    How is his ability not Conjuration?

    databook is dumb
     
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    If Meruem doesn't engage, then he'll never find an opening, and Netero can just blast him at a distance. Eventually, the damage will add up and it'll affect Meruem before Netero runs out of stamina.

    What you're proposing is the worst possible strategy for Meruem.
     
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    That wouldn't work, it'd not even take any effort, plus netero would just be pounding him while he goes to pick up rocks then, no pressure on netero means no finding his weakness. Ultimately netero was faster than meruem.

    Your strategy fails on all fronts.
     
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    Based on what? It's to be assumed that Netero's prayer speed is faster, while his regular speed is just as fast, otherwise netero wouldn't have been able to land hits at all, his prayer is an additional thing he does to respect the martial arts, but he still has to do something.

    The strategy just sucks. Netero would just keep pounding on him with palm strikes.
     
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