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SS Gogeta (Fusion Reborn) vs SS Vegito (Buu Saga)

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  1. Divine Vasto

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    Time to revive a very controversial debate between the 2 best fusions in the series. Who wins?
     
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    Easy

    /thread.
     
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    Vegito wins, at that time in the story the narrative was that the Potara fusion was much more powerful than the fusion dance also we know the fusion dance lasts only for half an hour where as the Potara was without limit (or so we thought).
     
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    I was about to say the same thing but you ninja'd me.
    But yeah, basically, before it was retconned, Potara was superior.
     
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    Ignoring the "Potara is unlimited while fusion is limited (till DBS)" in physical overall strength, who would win? Remove the time limit to make this fair
     
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    Goten and Trunks are powerful, I wouldn't be surprised if post rosat they are stronger than Semi Cell. Still, SSJ Vegetto was already much, much stronger than even SSJ3 Gotenks. If Gogeta is given the same multiplier, he shouldn't be that strong.
     
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    Meanwhile in video games, where old kaioshin has no chill:


    Although i gotta give it to gotenks for that funny roast:


    Fuu is basically the spectator seeing the flame war unfold:
     
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    oh

    it's that thread, for the 101th time :salt

    i forgot that once a month, we still have one of those :mjlol

    fake db fans will say either gogeta or vegito

    true db fans will say that even at their z versions, they are both lit and the strongest z fusions, and end it there


    so simple
     
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    Useless thread to be honest. Not like anyone cares either since both have been retcon in a way.

    @MShadows i think this needs to be moved to the battle dome.
     
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    I'm picking Gogeta. I know that a lot of people are going to say that the Potara Earrings are supposed to be more than Fusion Technique according to Elder Kai's statement.

    Here's the problem.

    Elder Kai never saw the results of the Fusion Technique. He only saw the dance part of it. Remember, when Gotenks was fighting Super Buu he was awakening Gohan's sleeping powers & didn't pay attention to the fight until Gohan went on the battlefield where the Fusion Technique was undone.

    I'm aware that the Fusion Technique only lasts up 30 minutes, but that can a long time for a straight up fight & trust me I've been in a few, but that's another story.
     
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    Vegito
     
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    Nonsense.
     
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    Elder Kai was the only one who could sense Gotenks and Super Buu’s power while they were inside the RoSaT

    he knows how strong Gotenks is
     
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    At any given point, a current Vegetto will always be stronger than a current Gogeta.

    That much is pretty much pointed out in the story itself.
     
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    No he doesn't. He didn't pay attention to the fight at all until Gohan arrived on the field.

    You can see it here that Elder Kai wasn't paying attention to the fight at all.



    Edit

    Here's another video where he dosen't pay attention to Gotenks at all

     
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    Do you know where they got that crystal ball from? Elder Kai poofed it from thin air because he knew they were fighting inside the time chamber
     
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    Everyone knew that they were in the HTC. Elder Kai was focusing on Gohan's sleeping powers before Trunks & Goten went in the HTC.I'm aware of the CB part, but that doesn't mean that sensed them. Baba used a CB in the Saiyan Saga & when Gohan was fighting Cell, but that didn't mean she knew how strong either 1 of them were.
     
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    I fucking hate reruns:scust
     
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    Gogeta has been written to be actually useful and beat his opponents in 3 of 4 of his appeareances. He automatically wins.
     
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    Even pretending that Elder Kai had never seen a metamor fusion before (when he flat out states hes familiar with the technique) and even assuming he has no idea how it affects Super Saiyans (when hes blatantly sensed Gotenks fight Buu in the ROSAT) he also flat out senses both SSJ3 Gotenks when they fuse prior to getting absorbed by Buu, AND he senses how strong they made Buutenks.

    And even then he stated Potara > The Dance

    So

    Yeah

    Potara beats the Dance

    End of story
     
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    When did Elder Kai ever sense Gotenks? As I recall correctly he was too busy helping Gohan awaken his sleeping powers. He never saw the full results of the Fusion Technique. He never sensed Gotenks at SSJ 3. He was still focusing on Gohan. I already sent proof that he wasn't paying attention to Gotenks at all, so his statement on the Potara Earrings being more powerful holds no weight whatsoever.
     
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    Yeah

    Yeah he did

    He saw them fuse together and get absorbed by Buu during the fight with Gohan
    You didnt tho

    You are and have continued to post just headcanon

    The Elder Kai has sensed Gotenks and Buutenks on multiple occasions
    Sure it does

    Just gotta stop taking your word over the authors
     
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    I fact checked it. Elder Kai said that they were fighting each other, but just because he knew that doesn't mean that he knew their strength of power. In fact the fight was supposedly over before Super Buu regenerated, which was shown in that same chapter.



    Elder Kai said that they were fighting, but in the next scan the fight was presumably over. Gotenks didn't go SSJ 3 until after Super Buu, which indicates that he didn't know all of the details.

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    Just because he knew they were there doesn't mean that he knew how strong Gotenks was therefore his statement on the Potara Earrings being more powerful holds no weight whatsoever.

    According to the scans you showed Elder Kai said that they were fighting in another dimension.

    Correct, but he obviously know all of the details because if he did he wouldn't have have said that they were fighting, which he clearly said. However, in the same chapter it shows the fight was presumably over, which indicates that he didn't know all the details about the fight & hardly paid attention at all.

    This means that he didn't know how strong Gotenks was, which means that he didn't know how strong Gotenks was.

    Edit

    I just Elder Kai's statement. He didn't say that the Potara Earrings made you stronger. He said that they were better because you didn't have to do a dance to fuse, but rather put the earrings together & you're good to go.
     
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    Jesus the mental gymnastics. He somehow felt their energy fade into another dimension, was not doing the ritual when Gotenks fused before getting absorbed but somehow he missed all of this?

    @Mike307 is a troll. Stop engaging him.
     
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    I just fact checked this. He did sense their Ki, but he didn't say that the Potara Earrings were more powerful than the Fusion Technique. He said that they were better that you don't have to dance to because all you have to is put them on in chapter 501.

     
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    Keep moving the goalposts, troll.
     
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    Hardly difficult considering I gave you the facts
    It does

    It means exactly that

    He can literally sense them

    And again, he senses Gotenks IN SSJ3 during the fight with Gohan and again when Buu becomes Buutenks

    You flat out have no fucking clue what youre talking about bud
    He does know exactly how strong Gotenks is as hes flat out sensed him in SSJ3

    Elder Kai stated that Potara fusion was so fucking strong that itd allow Goku to slap around BUUTENKS and from feats it even claps BUUHAN

    Let alone just shitty Gotenks

    You have no idea what youre talking about

    Yes

    Yes he did

    This is also confirmed in the guides
     
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    Once I made a mistake when I said that Elder Kai didn't the full results of the fusion. I just showed evidence that he didn't say that. The chapter is 501

    Scan 1



    Scan 2



    Neither of these of these scans say that the Potara Earrings are more powerful than the Fusion Technique. He said that they were better because they didn't have to dance to fuse, which I agree with, but that doesn't automatically make Vegito more powerful than Gogeta.

    Once again the scans are right there
     
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    Movie Characters are much stronger than their canon counterparts when it comes to DBZ. Gogeta wins.
     
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