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Strongest character in Bleach that the TimeShift protagonist can beat?

Discussion in 'Outskirts Battledome' started by Fang, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. Fang Titan

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    Title says it all.
     
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  3. Sir Jogga Duke of Inanity

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    Stats for TimeShift Protag?
     
  4. Fang Titan

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    He can blue-shift, so at least relativistic speed, slow down time, stop time, reverse time, and time travel; his time powers when active let him also become intangible (going through fire, walking on water, and through electricity), his powersuit has a built in A.I. that compiles data and information from all branching timelines. It also has a "time drive" installed in the suit that creates a back up "copy" or redundancy option back to an earlier period in time-space that was safe for the user automatically.

    The TimeShift protagonist suit also has shields that can somewhat tank building level attacks, and the AI uses the time powers of the suit to regenerate its shields. For example, the shields are at least strong enough to no-sell rockets and tank rounds to the face of the suit's user.

     
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  5. kayz Well-Known Member

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  6. creyzi4zb12 Well-Known Member

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    Time Shift doesn’t have enough AP to beat any of the Liutenant’s reiatsu shield
     
  7. Affectugender Pm me ur nudes plz

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    Reading the description it sounds like a stalemate. No one in Bleach can do anything about the time drive. Also can the time reverse be used on people? If so he should clear a guantlet.
     
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    The problem is that speed. Doubt he can do anything to Aizen anyway. Lets say they are all Power active then guanael kills him via vanishing point .

    As for this timeline saving thing i doubt it works after getting the almighty treatment because they had to create a new past for it to become even possible to start doing something. And aizen states that orihimes Power is better than time regression .

    Some bleach characters are capable of manipulating the amount of time they would be thrown to past or future turning hundreds of years into few days.
     
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    >damage accumulation during time stop
    >being able to interact with people while time is reversed

    It also looks like the men he killed were brought back briefly during the time reversal but died again anyway.

    Very little bleach characters can do against this shit. If he’s relativistic doesn’t that also mean he’s like city level just in KE?
     
  10. Fang Titan

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    I'm pretty sure even without his time-stop or time-slow, the protagonist has the advantage of speed.
     
  11. Volt manta The Librarian

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    If he's relativistic he should even be able to neg Allmighty by just blitzing Yhwach before he even activates. Not sure if he can do anything at that point without effrctive hax, though; the difference between even city and country level top tiers (at least) is massive, even relying on damage accumulation.
     
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  12. Keishin Well-Known Member

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    oh wait, Ichibei already tried that. This guy legit gets one shot by reiatsu.
     
  13. Fang Titan

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    That's why I thought this is a fair match, because his DC is not as lubricious as his speed.
     
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    Can he hit true intang dudes like Lille?
     
  15. Sablés Well-Known Member

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    Almighty activates with or without Yhwach's input. Time travel's his chance if he can back far enough in the past and has the necessary knowledge to do something with it.
     
  16. Fang Titan

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    He's defeated cyborg infantry elites who the Alpha Suit user created who can stop and slow down time themselves.

    I'm not sure if that will be enough. Ignoring the speed disparity, the time drive on the Beta Suit lets the TS protagonist's AI account for all possible infinite branching time lines and the effect on causality any breaching of time-space has.
     
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    Yhwach seems like a direct counter to that, he selects a future and locks that timeline in place
     
  18. Fang Titan

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    That's not how the Time Drive works though. Because it calculates "all" probabilities and effects on the timelines with actions done and the A.I. directs the actions from there.
     
  19. Volt manta The Librarian

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    Could've swore he had to consciously select a timeline in order to jump to. All that nonsense about "choosing his own future" and whatnot.:catthinks
     
  20. OneSimpleAnime King of Kaiju

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    Yea, so Yhwach counters that since he selects a future within the possibility and forces it into place, basically making that future unchangable and you cant counter it without either changing the past or somehow overcoming the brute forcing of the timeline change.

    If he has even a slight chance of winning he can make it 100%
     
  21. Sablés Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like it locks down Yhwach's presence.
    Nope. Ichibei turned him to a vegetable, but Almighty appeared in spite of that. Ichigo killed his ass and turned him into ooze and it still activated and revived him. There's definitely an autonomous aspect to it.
     
  22. Fang Titan

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    That's exactly what the Beta Suit does. You weren't paying attention at all here. The SSAM/Suit AI monitors all timelines and probabilities affecting time-space to calculate changes in time-space, be it in the past, present, or future, period. The Time Drive installed and maintained by said AI also keeps a redundant back-up of a "safe" period in time to automatically send the protagonist too in case something goes drastically wrong.

    And the Beta Suits powers cover time travel, time rewinding/reversal, time slowing, and time stopping. The protagonist is not limited to the future, at all. On top of all that with the time rewinding and time travel, the suit AI keeps the protagonist in "synchronization" with causality to prevent time paradoxes like accidentally locking themselves in an infinite time loop or something.

    I'm not making a no limits fallacy argument that the Beta Suit user/TimeShift protagonist will automatically win but you are drastically underestimating his abilities and the speed he possesses even without factoring in his time powers.
     
  23. OneSimpleAnime King of Kaiju

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    Well if he tries fighting Yhwach directly he wont really be able to do anything, his best bet is going to the past since Yhwach will fuck the future timelines too much. Speed or no a head on battle will be to his disadvantage
     
  24. lol 4th dimension reiatsu Well-Known Member

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    Either gets eaten by a hollow or killed by reiatsu pressure.

    It will get back trough save files but would need to travel far back in time to reach a point where it can win, and trough multiple dimensions.
     
  25. Fang Titan

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    Why? His speed is further going to be amped by time-stop and time-slowing.
     
  26. OneSimpleAnime King of Kaiju

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    Whats he going to do? Yhwach attacks instantly regardless of speed, you cant dodge when he uses Almighty due to future fuckery, and his stats besides speed in this match are massively higher
     
  27. Fang Titan

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    Sounds like a no limits argument.

    When has Almighty countered time manipulation?

    He'll just wail on Yhwach with accumulated damage then.
     
  28. Keishin Well-Known Member

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    TS Protag:
    -Timeline Monitoring
    -Save Spot

    Beta suit abilities:
    Time travel
    Time rewinding/reversal
    Time slow
    Time stop

    But unlike Zeref this guy doesnt have infinite energy.
     
  29. Fang Titan

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    I am probably wasting my time since I'm replying to >Keishin here but, since when did the Beta Suit have limited energy to use its time powers?
     
  30. OneSimpleAnime King of Kaiju

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    Attack from the future means that speed is irrelevant and we saw him bypass his attacks being blocked/missing by fucking with the future.

    It cant counter time manipulation regarding the past, but i cant really say how it would deal with someone also messing with the future
     
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