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Strongest Opponent Saiyan Saga Kamiccolo can defeat?

Discussion in 'Dragon Ball Battledome' started by Cryorex, Jul 21, 2020.

  1. Cryorex

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    Piccolo & Kami merge into one being after Piccolo's 1 year training.
    Naturally he defeats Nappa, but can he defeat Vegeta, and if so, how far does he progress into the Freeza Arc?
     
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    It’s extremely hard to tell. The boost might not be consistent.
     
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    Well...

    When Nail stated that if Piccolo was in his original form, he could defeat Freeza, was he reffering to 2nd Form Freeza or 530,000 Freeza?
     
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    Like said previously, the boost may not be consistent.

    If it is a 2x boost like it was kinda portrayed in Android arc and implied in Namek, he still doesn't get past Nappa.
     
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    Yeah I'm feeling the stronger Piccolo becomes, the lower the boost becomes. Which resulted in Android Arc Piccolo only receiving a more modest power up.
     
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    I’d see him get pass Nappa, Vegeta is the problem.
     
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    Him rejoining with Kami made him 2x stronger or something like that. Which makes sense in a way because they are halves of one being.
     
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    Probably not the best translations, but what about this then? This in reference to 1st Form Freeza as it's before Freeza had Transformed. (read from left to right)




    So Post-King Kai training Piccolo, if he had merged with Kami, Nail was confident he could fight 1st Form Freeza, probably win. We know straight away that would be a lot more than a 2x boost, probably over 10x.

    How Nail knows/speculates on this... fuck knows...
     
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    Or maybe Piccolo got just that strong on King Kai’s planed that a 2x boost would’ve been enough to trample 1st Form Frieza?

    Again, Piccolo and Kami are special. They were originally one being split in half.
     
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    He should revive the original piccolo and fuse with him as well. pretty sure that would make him strong enough to at least take out Cell
     
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    But him fusing with Nail WAS more than a 2x boost, why would fusing with kami be weaker than that? Its not like nail was that much stronger than kami
     
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    Nail had a PL of 40,000 while Kami maxes out in the low hundreds.

    And I mentioned the reason above: Piccolo and Kami are both two halves of the same being :oldshrug
     
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    They might as well be next to each other if you were just adding their power to Piccolo’s in comparison to Frieza. Nail was less than 1/10th of 1st form Freeza.
     
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    Nameless Namek is implied to be really powerful, even though Kami and Piccolo separately were both trash. I think Saiyan Saga Nameless would already by at least over 100 000.
     
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    I believe it was stated that if Piccolo & Kami had formed the Nameless Namek, then they would've beaten Frieza. The 120 million PL one, not the 530,000 form. So the boost is not consistent. They are at bare minimum stronger than Frieza and likely stronger than Namek Goku.
     
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    How do you know that? It was a statement from Nail when Freeza was still only fighting Vegeta in his 1st Form.
     
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    It's stated by Kami in the Android Arc, not during Namek.
     
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    There’s no such statement from Kami
     
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    Well then I misremembered. I'm sure there's a hype statement somewhere about only a Super Saiyan being capable of beating Piccolo if he had fused with Kami. So the fusion would be by default stronger than Frieza and it probably offers diminishing returns the stronger Piccolo himself gets.
     
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    Actually, the statement comes from Guru when he finds out from Krillin that there used to be a Namekian on Earth.
    He figures that it's the Nameless Namekian (supposed prodigy of their race) and after asking what happened to him and Krillin answering that he was killed by a Saiyan, Guru concludes that it could have only been a SSJ that killed him.

    Obviously that wasn't the case as we all know it was Nappa who did it. It's just a case of Guru severely overestimating the original Nameless Namekian's power.

    The only other statement we have is Nail saying that Piccolo's grown amazingly strong post-King Kai and that if he had become one again with Kami he could've beaten even Frieza. The Frieza he was talking about tho is 1st form Frieza, as that is the only one he had witnessed.
     
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    Still... there is a lot of hype behind the whole thing.

    Like mentioned earlier. I believe the stronger one half became, the lessor the boost would have been once they merged again, which makes sense.

    Guru saying only a Super Saiyan could have killed the Nameless Namakien, surely allows you to put a Saiyan Saga Kamiccolo way above Vegeta, probably Oozaru Vegeta as well.
     
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    Or maybe the original Nameless Namekian was a guy that didn't even break past the 1000 PL mark and Guru severely overestimated him

    :mjlol
     
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    :gglife But... the Nameless Namakian... is cool... and should be powerful... :gglife
     
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    Nail was more than a hundred times stronger than Kami though

    Namekian power-ups are based on plot, power-ups in general were always like that
     
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