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Strongest that Amphibian SM Minato Beats?

Discussion in 'Naruto Battledome' started by WorldsStrongest, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. WorldsStrongest Dio With It

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    Minato starts in SM fused with Ma and Pa

    Who is the best he defeats?

    Location: Forest of Death
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    Mindset: KI
    Stips: As we see BM Minato make use of an utterly massive BM sized Rasengan, and we see Base Minato using much larger normal Rasengans than any other Rasengan user,
     
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    Amphibian SM Minato
     
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    You forgot Ma/Pa
     
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    Could go either way against Kabuto.
     
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    Danzo if they’re fast enough to realize on is in a Genjutsu before anything too damaging happens
     
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    EMS Madara or Sasuke. It's not like I ran through a list of people, but I figure the strongest he can beat must be a character that he's capable of quickly oneshotting due to being inept at SM. Those two are the strongest he's capable of doing that to, and there's hardly anyone stronger than them who aren't Juubi Jins or anything insane.

    Going strictly by mangafacts, Madara hadn't shown PS without Kurama until he'd achieved Rinnegan, so he'd be stuck with the legged, midget Susanoo Sasuke had shown us during the War Arc. And while it's questionable if Minato can bust the Susanoo given that Naruto's Oodama Rasengan failed to break Madara's ribcage, I'm confident he can evade their attacks and teleport inside of their Susanoos if he'd marked them prior to its activation. It's also worth considering the possibility of Minato marking a Susanoo itself and teleporting it and himself into the Land of Toads for a party.:blobok
     
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    Most characters will be too busy wondering if it really is Minato or be thinking that's what it looks like if SM Jiraiya decided to reproduce.
     
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    Madara said (in terms of strengh since Muu had most likely the same age as him or maybe even older), meaning he already had PS even before becoming a rogue ninja.
     
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    There's nothing to indicate he used as little as V3 Susanoo against the two, so there's that.
     
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    He literraly stated he didn't use PS because they were weak, it's literal and there is nothing to add, unless you didn't read the page I provided to you ?
     
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    Incorrect. He literally states that he held back. It does not necessarily prove he had PS back then.
     
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    Onoki asked him "whilst witnessing PS", the whole talk was about PS usage, so please just don't get overboard and accept what the manga provided to us.
     
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    Well who are the strong characters that people argue would tank his regular attacks? (even if I don't always agree)

    • Third Raikage? Is he tanking COR? His body would be torn open and he should bleed to death. Same as killing tbh.
    • Tsunade? Torn to shreds.
    • Orochimaru? Not seeing him tank.
    • SM Kabuto? Karin's healing won't save him. Torn to shreds. Can't heal from that.
    What about Frog Katas?
    • Ghost Punch through Nagato's absorption barrier? GG.
    • 6 paths of Pein? Hiraishin V2 and Ghost punch to Preta path. Hiraishin V2 and COR to Deva path? GG both of them.
     
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    That's not proof. Madara's response only needed to address holding back in general even within this context.
     
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    Guys look here! A Jiraiya fan who thinks his level of SM gives him ghost punches while ignoring what the manga showed.
     
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    Onoki asked him about PS and Madara's answer was clearly refering to PS, moreover Tsunade noted that only Hashi could stand PS, same goes for Madara which are also two other evidences that Madara already had PS in the past.
    So unless you have extreme bad faith and complete ignorance of the manga, only then you would claim such a nonsens.
    And, well I'm stopping here, no further discussion about "trivial" things.
     
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    And how would Tsunade know he had it in the past if she were unaware of its existence until then? :blobshrug Not a reliable source. Madara says nothing to imply he was referring specifically to his ability to cast PS back then. Hashi could stand against Madara and Kurama's merger, so it's not insane to believe he could handle the PS alone.
     
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    Context... He saw PS then specifically asked why he held back. Madara then proceeds to say that adults don't go at full force when facing children.
     
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    Your baiting won't work again
     
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    His statement would be true regardless of which aspect he held back in. :kermit
    They'll be as ineffective as your arguments then. Fair.
     
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    If you go by context, its clear it is PS. I'm waiting for you to say to prove he had the ability to use Sharingan prediction back then, or that he had a kunai. :lmao
     
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    Kunai are found on nigh every ninja & Sharingan precognition is obtained with Sharingan, which he had. The difference is quite clear between these and PS. The only time we've seen Perfect Susanoos created singlehandedly(without Kurama), the users were characters with Rikudo Chakra.

    On the flip side, there is nothing to show that Madara was addressing PS specifically opposed to his overall strength.
    :kermit
     
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    PS tends to come with EMS... but we need to prove he had precog when he fought Oonoki, right? In fact we need to prove he had the EMS when he fought Oonoki? :maybe
     
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    @Bold, Already addressed & the story of him achieving EMS during his lifetime has been told. @Blue, mangafacts pls. Do not forgot that I'm referring to without Kurama. :blobchuu
     
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    We need to prove he had the EMS, though, right? :LOS
     
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    Edited. It's hard to address arguments hidden in plain sight. Your turn:blobchuu
     
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    We need to prove he had EMS because we don't know if he had it then... like like PS, right? :LOS
     
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    I do not expect you to give what I requested seeing how you've stooped this low.
     
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    But by your logic, this could have been before he saw Oonoki. Because you know, its not like this "new special technique" was PS, or anything.

    You opened this door by pretending Madara-Oonoki weren't referencing PS. But, if we follow the same line of logic you used to deny that, you still need to prove he met Oonoki before that.

    Oh and there's the fact you need to prove he had precog, Genjutsu oh and lets not forget the lower forms of Susanoo.

    Its not like we can do something simple and go by the context set.
    :kermit
     
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