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  1. mr_shadow Moderator

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    Since all the non-english speakers seem to be teaching their native languages, i thougt id give it a shot. Ill try to explain the grammar as we go along, but since i take all of that stuff for granted, i might overlook something important. If that should happen, feel free to ask.

    First of all: Why should you learn swedish? Well, naturally it helps if you wanna move to Sweden :p. It will also help you understand danish and norwegian, since the 3 languages are very closely related. It might also be usefull in learning german, and in reverse, if you know german already you will find swedish alot easier. Or if you are a swedish-american (there are alot of those, becouse of the mass emigration at the start of the 20th century) you might wanna learn the language of your ancestors.
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    Letters

    First of all, swedish has 3 more letters than the english alphabet. Those are Å, Ä and Ö.

    Å is pronounced like the O in "thorn"

    Ä is pronounced like the A in "shadow"

    Ö is pronounced like the O in "world"
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    Ill be ripping of the scenario from Japanese Online, but adapt it for teaching Swedish. This is simply becouse i dont have the imagination to make one of my own



    Lession 1

    Johan: Hallå
    Hello

    Jason: Hallå
    Hello

    Johan: Jag heter Johan Svensson. Trevligt att träffas
    My name is Johan Svensson. Nice to meet you

    Jason: Jag heter Jason Miller. Detsamma
    My name is Jason Miller. The same [As what you said]

    Johan: Är du amerikan?
    Are you american?

    Jason: Ja, det är jag. Du då?
    Yes, i am. You then?

    Johan: Jag är svensk
    I am swedish


    Jason: Johan, går du på universitetet?
    Johan, do you study at the university?

    Johan: Ja. Du då?
    Yes. You then?

    Jason: Jag går på gymnasiet
    Im in the gymnasium (High Scool)

    Johan:Går din vän också på gymnasiet?
    Does your friend also go to the gymnasium?

    Jason: Ja. Vilket år går du på universitetet??
    Yes. which year are you in the uiversity?

    Johan: Jag går andra året
    Im in the second year


    Lession 2

    Jason: God morgon
    Good morning

    Johan: God morgon
    Good morning

    Jason:Vad är det där?
    What is that?

    Johan: Det här? Det är en kamera
    This? Its a camera

    Jason: Vems kamera är det?
    Who´s camera is it?

    Johan: Den är min
    It´s mine

    Jason: Är den där också din?
    Is that also yours?

    Johan: Nej, den här datorn är min väns
    No, this computer is my friend´s

    Jason:Vad heter den här på svenska?
    What is this called in swedish?

    Johan: På svenska kallas det här för "telefon"
    In swedish, this is know as "telefon" (telephone)

    Aha, det där då?
    Aha, what about that?

    Det där är en bok, och det här är en tidning
    That is a book, and this is a magazine

    Lession 3

    Johan: Vem är det där?
    who is that?

    Jason: Hon heter Mary
    Her name is Mary

    Johan: Är hon också amerikan?
    Is she american as well?

    Jason: Nej, hon är australiensare
    No, she is australian

    Johan: Vilken del av Australien är hon från?
    Which part of australia is she from?

    Jason: Jag vet faktiskt inte
    I actually dont know

    Jason and Johan walk over to Mary

    Jason: Mary, det här är Johan
    Mary, this is Johan

    Mary: Trevligt att träffas
    Nice to meet you

    Johan: Detsamma
    The same

    Mary: Johan, är du från Stockholm?
    Johan, are you from Stockholm?

    Johan: Nej, jag är göteborgare. Du då?
    No, i am a Gothenburg-er. How about you?

    Mary: Jag är från Melbourne i Australien
    Im from Melbourne, in Australia
     
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    Å Ä Ö is respect........................:p:p
     
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    I will continue my improvised language course when someone shows interest (or i get bored and post more stuff)
     
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    Hmm...I'm interested. My dad's mom was Swedish, so naturally, I am too. I also happen to be Norwegian. ^_^

    A popular phrase seems to be "I love you". How do you say that?
     
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    I love you = Jag ?lskar dig.

    ?lska menas "to love", while ?lska-r means "loving". So the above literally means "I loving you"

    "Dig" (prononced "dej". the spelling comes from an older form of swedish which nobody uses anymore) is the form of "you" thats used when the person is the object of an action (in this case, love), so dont confuse it with "du" that i mentioned in my first post
     
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    To confuse you further, the word for "love" is "k?rlek". That is only when referring to the concept of love, like "fred, k?rlek och f?rst?else" = "peace, love and understanding"
     
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    Hej, l?get? :)
     
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    Jod?, det ?r bra. Men kom ih?g att det h?r ?r en tr?d f?r att L?RA UT svenska, inte f?r att prata det ;)

    Translation:
    Sid - Hi, hows it going?
    Mr_shadow - yeah, its fine. But remeber this thread is for TEACHING swedish, not for speaking it ;)
     
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    hehe, I'm Dutch actually :)

    I picked up some Swedish words from a couple of Swedish guys I used to game with. Mostly swear words though :p
     
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    hehe, ok, cool. Its of corse perfectly alright if people try and make posts in swedish in this board, just provide "subtitles" for those who arent as good at it as you.

    Becouse i know how annoying it gets. One time in WoW i was in a 4-man group, out of which 3 were turks. So they kept talking to eachother in turkish, and for all i knew they could be talking about ME, and i dident understand anything
     
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    hej på dig

    blah, I understand it better
     
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    Rina: Om du nu ?r finne (som det st?r under namnet) kan du v?l starta en tr?d om finska? Jag har funderat p? att l?ra mig det i framtiden n?ng?ng, s? d? kan jag ju lika g?rna b?rja nu

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    Rina: If your finnish, like ut says below the name, couldent you start a thread about finnish? Ive been thinking about learning it at some point in the future, so i might as well start now
     
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    Äh låt finnen vara med... hon säger själv att hon inte gillar finland...

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    Bah, let the fin join in.. she says it herself that she doens't like finland
     
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    Jag har inte sagt att hon inte f?r vara h?r, jag s?ger bara att jag skulle vilja l?ra mig finska. Jag k?nner bara 1 en finne annars, och han ?r halv-svensk, s? hans finska ?r nog inte att r?kna med.

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    I never said she couldent be here, i just said id like to learn finnish. I only know 1 finn, and hes half-swedish, so i dont think his finnish-skills are reliable
     
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    vad är det med alla översättningarna??:blink

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    whats up with all these translations? :blink


    heehee......min svenska suger nuförtiden........ typ IG barn...:scry

    du kan ha lite grammatik ...n___n

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    hee....my swedish sux nowadays....My grades are like like F - - ..:scry

    you can post some grammar...n____n
     
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    ?vers?ttningarna finns d?r f?r att de som inte kan svenska ska fatta vad vi snackar om

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    the translations are there so non-english speakers will understand what we?re talking about


    Ska b?rja jobba p? min n?sta post, och jag f?rs?ker f?rklara grammatiken s? mycket som m?jligt (utan att det blir f?r virrigt). Men ett misstag som vissa spr?k-l?rare g?r ?r att BARA koncentrera sig p? grammatik, ist?llet f?r ordf?rr?det. Jag tycker det ?r b?ttre om folk l?r sig en massa svenska ord ist?llet, och sen kan de l?sa det vi skriver till varandra och bilda sig en uppfattning p? s? vis.

    Spoiler:
    Ill start working on my next post, and im trying to explain the grammar as much as possible (without it getting to confusing). But a mistake made by some language-teachers is to ONLY focus on grammar, instead of vocabulary. I think its better if people learn lots of swedish words instead, and then they can read what we write to eachother and get the impression that way.
     
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    Lol, svenskarna på det här forumet växer, nice. :amuse

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    Lol, the swedish people on this forum is growing, nice.:amuse
     
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    I'm swedish and finnish ^^
     
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    Lol, svenskarna p? det h?r forumet v?xer, nice. :amuse

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    Lol, the swedish people on this forum is growing, nice.:amuse
     
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    Counting in swedish (pronounciation differs somewhat in dialects, but this is the offical way of saying it):

    1- ett

    2- tv?

    3- tre

    4- fyra

    5- fem

    6- sex

    7- sju

    8- ?tta

    9- nio

    10- tio

    11- elva

    12- tolv

    13- tretton

    14- fjorton

    15- femton

    16- sexton

    17-sjutton

    18- arton

    19- nitton

    20-tjugo.

    30- trettio

    40-f?rtio

    50- femtio

    60- sextio

    70- sjuttio

    80- ?ttio

    90- nittio

    100- hundra

    After 20, you simply add the odd number, just like in english. Like "tjugosex" = 26. And "hundratjugosex" = 126
     
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    although i knew norwegian and swedish were similiar, i didn't realise how so untill now.
    but i think i should stop reading this thread before i get confused and start writing swedish stuff in my norwegian homework..
    learning a new language is hard ( especially when youread one that so similar).

    but all the same it is nice to see the similarities :D

    Jeg pr?ver og l?rer Norsk (that's probably wrong but i am only learning afterall)
    i hope it says i'm trying to learn norwegian, but as my norwegian friends say, i'm crap at the grammar bit :|

    ~M~
     
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    hi i'm from sweden but i'm 3/4 finnish...
     
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    disgusting!!!
     
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    Jag ?r amrikansk,men bor i Sverige...Jag f?r typ en bok f?r klassen som ?r ?ver,f?r,annars ?r det f?r l?tt..:p
    Kul att det finns m?nga svenskar p? sajten!

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    I'm american but live in Sweden.I get like a book that the class over uses,otherwise it's to easy..
    It's fun that there's many swedish ppl on the site!


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    J**la pervo!!

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    Damn pervert!!


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    XDXDXDXD

    plockat up från nån eller svensk??
     
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    En svensk skulle inte posta en massa slumpm?ssiga svordommar, s? antagligen plockat upp.

     
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    Articles and plural in swedish:

    Something thats bound to confuse english-speakers at first is the absence of a word for "the". Instead of having a specific word to indicate specific article like German or English, we change the ending of the word. the most common endings used are -en, -an, -arna and -orna

    En stol = a chair (literally: one chair)

    Den här stolen = this chair (literally: that here chair)

    En blomma = a flower (literally: one flower)

    Den här blomman = this flower (literally: that here flower)

    For plural, you usually add -ar or -or to the word. It goes like this:

    Flera stolar = many chairs (literally: several chairs)

    De där stolarna = those chairs (literally: they there chairs)

    Flera blommor = many flowers (literally: several flowers)

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    Wile writing this post, i suddenly realized that swedish has male and female words just like german. The words ending with -ar are male, and -or are female. Ill get back to you on how to tell the difference once i work it out myself (ive taken this stuff for granted my whole life, so im not really shure)
     
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    Jag vill ha sex = I wanna snoggle
    Jag vill knulla dig = I wanna hug ya hard
    Jag vill slicka dig = I wanna tasta ya lips
    Jag vill sätta på dig = I wanna spoil ya
    Ge mig din fitta = Gimme ya love

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    Jag vill ha sex = I want sex
    Jag vill knulla dig = I wanna fuck you
    Jag vill slicka dig = I wanna lick you
    Jag vill sätta på dig = I wanna bone you
    Ge mig din fitta = Gimme ya pussy
     
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