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Team Hardwork VS Team Talent

Discussion in 'Akihabara Lounge' started by Harlow, Oct 20, 2018.

  1. Harlow I'm just playing games, I know that's plastic love

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    Anyone agree this?
     
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  2. Batzzaro29 Well-Known Member

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    Lol you have goku on team Hardwork.
     
  3. WorldsStrongest Dio With It

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    > "Training and Mastery"
    > Superman who was born with his powers
    > Goku who was born with his powers
    > Ed who was a prodigious talent due to his father being effectively a damn Philosophers stone
    > Deku who was HANDED One for All

    Sure why not
     
  4. Silnaem Nothing for Wisdom

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    Yusuke was always a talented fighter, among other things . . .

    Goku is a saiyan

    Monkey D Luffy . . . D Luffy . . . D
     
  5. Spider-Man Interplanetary Good Vibe Zone

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    >Luffy

    Pure genetics and fruit ability. His grandpa already showed his physique is genetic

    >Goku

    I mean he does work his ass off and I'm not trying to take that away from him, but he's literally designed by blood to get more and more powerful after each defeat. Look at Tenshinhan, trains as much as Goku, yet, is absolute fodder solely because he's a human

    >Deku

    A nerd who was given the best ability in the world because All Might saw 'potential' despite having better options and choices to pick from

    >Gon

    Given that Ging is a potential monster genetically, Gon gets no hardwork pass since no one without genetics or talents gets anywhere in the HxH world. It's how Nen functions

    >Yusuke

    Literally spawn of the baddest demon king of all time. Demon genetics are the reason he got anywhere

    >Ed

    A prodigy who was able to teach himself and perform alchemy at a young age. Most people can barely make a chair form out of wood and by the time he was in the gate he could already think and perform better than most people

    Saitama and Kenichi are literally the only two who actually got strong thanks to sheer hard work and training
     
  6. Millón Vasto Toyble has forsaken us!

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    Goku

    Litterally infinite potential. U can not get more talented then that unless u have a faster growth rate on top of infinite potential. Litterally all saiyans have infinite potential safe a few possible exceptions


    Deku

    Given his power

    Luffy

    Ate a devil fruit

    Edward elric

    He was transmuting shit as a kid.

    Superman

    Nuff said


    Most of these people work hard on top of having talent. That doesnt make them talentless
     
  7. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    Some characters here are hybrid TBH.
     
  8. Mr. Black Leg The Ordeal of Love

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    CA Superman ? YOU PUT THOUGHT ROBOT HERE ? LITERALLY, YOU PUT A BEING THAT BASICALLY HAS PLOT MANIPULATION AS A POWER, IN THIS DISCUSSION ?

    Also, you guys are going to far with these things.

    Deku

    " HE WAS HANDED ONE FOR ALL ", yeah, and it's not like it's easy to master it. Had he not done copious amounts of work not only physically just to get fit enough so OFA wouldn't completely wreck his body beyond medical cure, but mentally(He has been taking notes on every hero and villain he ever saw since he was a kid) he wouldn't be where he is today.

    Not to mention that mastering OFA in and of itself is a crazy task. Requiring multiple bones fucked up, and almost dying. I'd agree that it is "Talent" if he was born with it, but no, he literally has been playing catch with all of his peers, amongst them geniuses like Todoroki and Bakugou. Sure, his quirk is the strongest and once his body is ready for the use of 100% without any repercussions, he'll be OP af, but until then, a slip of his emotional stability will literally make him useless mid-battle. And I have to really stress the part where he is playing catch with everyone. Take for example, boxing. Imagine if you discover you have a talent(You have a really huge power in your right hand) late down, when you are 20 year old. Is it good that you have a given talent ? Yes. But people with legit boxing background have been training from ages like 7 or even lower. Now think of instead of boxing, think of it as using one of your limbs, because that's what quirks are: an extension of your body.

    Goku

    As much as I hate Dragon Ball in general, Goku literally lives to train and trains to live. The dude doesn't stop training ever. Sure he got the genetics, by being a saiyan he starts from a better place than any human, for example. But you guys forget that there are weak as shit saiyans who didn't even come close to getting Super Saiyan 1, take Raditz and Nappa and you'll see how much Goku came a long way.

    Luffy

    Because being thrown to live in the jungle by yourself when you are a kid is totally not worthy. Nor having to actually develop your DF ability in a world where people can do shit like, turn into fire, turn into light, turn into ice, turn into magma(All of those while being sorta intangible and immune to damage), push anything they touch with their powers, create poison, create a sphere where they are basically god, etc. And you are stuck being rubber. No credit at all for developing abilities such as G2, G3 and G4 that maximizes your abilities.

    Having a good headstart isn't anything to go by if you don't work your way into actually putting that headstart into something useful. It's not like Deku, Goku and Luffy were all born with immense power and training didn't make sense, nor that anyone planned them to be that powerful/strong or made something to actually boost their powers. Naruto and Ichigo literally had people who thought about how powerful they would be before they were even born.
     
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