1. Welcome to the forums! Take a second to look at our Beginner's Guide. It contains the information necessary for you to have an easier experience here.

    Thanks and have fun. -NF staff
    Dismiss Notice
  2. Stop Scrolling!
    Attention - When discussing new chapters of an anime or manga, please use a source from the official list of approved sources. If you would like to contribute to the list, please do so in the suggestions section.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. If you write blogs about the current anime season (for linking) or like to add descriptions / impressions on certain series and like to add them to our wiki, then send us a ticket.
    Dismiss Notice
  4. We want YOU the community to help contribute to the new Spiral Rep titles!

    Please, check this thread.

    Dismiss Notice
  5. My fellow ningen! It's time for another Dragon Ball Banner Contest!

    Dismiss Notice
  6. [​IMG]

    We are going to give one month of coloured usernames to a couple of NF users.

    Please, check NFs Valentine's Day Event

    Dismiss Notice

  7. Give NF the love she deserves! Join the NF-chan drawing contest and draw NF as NF-chan now!
    Earn some prizes... and maybe hugs and kisses from the forum herself?!
    CLICK HERE
    Dismiss Notice

Ten Commandments(Order of strongest to weakest?)

Discussion in 'Nanatsu no Taizai' started by AJBeckyBlissRollins, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. AJBeckyBlissRollins Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    807
    Likes Received:
    78
    Trophy Points:
    379
    Joined:
    Aug 20, 2018
    Reputation:
    What is the general order taking feats into account rather than just power levels?
     
    Tags:
  2. GilDLax Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,245
    Likes Received:
    124
    Trophy Points:
    563
    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2016
    Reputation:
    Before I rank them, there are a few things I don't understand about their powers:

    1. If Monspiet's Trick Star can swap things, why didn't he swap Meliodas and himself/whatever when Mel tried to Revenge Counter all of them back then?

    2. Why was Estarossa able to block the Revenge Counter easily when the rest (especially Zeldoris) acted like they couldn't do shit? If you say because of his Love commandment, then Mel shouldn't be able to do anything in the first place, let alone initiate the attack. I don't recall they can turn their Commandments on and off either.

    3. Where was it said they are immune to other commandments?

    4. So exactly what is Zeldoris's magic power? I know it's called God and he borrows from Demon King but so far I have no idea specifically what he can do.

    5. Why Gloxinia (and King) has physical stat as zero measured by Balor's Eyes? Even Elaine has some units in that aspect. It's not like King and Gloxinia are literally strength-less...shouldn't they be at least 1 or 2?
     
  3. Mythoclast Ω

    Messages:
    1,896
    Likes Received:
    109
    Trophy Points:
    563
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2016
    Reputation:
    Catdank Faction:
    1.Zeldris
    2.Monspiet??
    3.Estarossa
    4.Derierre
    5.Dolor
    6.Gloxinia
    7.Galan
    8.Merscylla
    9.Greyroad
    10.Fraudrin
     
  4. Daio Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    755
    Likes Received:
    37
    Trophy Points:
    404
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2016
    Reputation:
    1. Monspiet (Indura)
    2. Derieri (Indura)
    3. Zeldris (God)
    4. Mael (Estarossa Persona)
    5. Gloxina
    6. Dolor
    7. Melascula
    8. Galan
    9. Grayroad
    10. Fraudrin
     
    Last edited: Aug 22, 2018
  5. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

    Messages:
    18,036
    Likes Received:
    795
    Trophy Points:
    1,368
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Reputation:
    1. Estarossa
    2. Zeldris
    3. Melaschula
    4. Monspiet
    5. Grayroad
    6. Derieri
    7. Gloxina
    8. Dolor
    9. Galan
    10. Fraudrin
     
  6. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

    Messages:
    18,036
    Likes Received:
    795
    Trophy Points:
    1,368
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Reputation:
    1. You mean so he can save himself while all the others die? The french demons got a sense of honor.

    2. The others literally couldn't do anything. The attack had all their power plus his mixed into one huge blast.

    Estarossa didn't step in until that point, so theres likely a range limit to his Love since before that point he stayed far in the back. But yes, it was Love that nulled the attack.

    3. Don't recall exactly but it was definitely mentioned and is accurate.

    4. His commandment is the Piety. Anyone who turns there backs on him will become loyal slaves to the DK.

    No one knows what Zel's full power is like. But his dad must not have had too much faith in him since he felt the need to give him some of his power in addition to his commandment.

    5. Likely just comedic effect. :catshrug
     
  7. GilDLax Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,245
    Likes Received:
    124
    Trophy Points:
    563
    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2016
    Reputation:
    I did say ''/whatever''. Which means he can also swap Mel and an object so that Mel's attack would not direct at them inhis new position

    It doesn't look like Mel was that far from them.
     
  8. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

    Messages:
    18,036
    Likes Received:
    795
    Trophy Points:
    1,368
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Reputation:
    Well he'd first need something of equal size. Only thing available like that would be Zeldris. :maybe
     
  9. GilDLax Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,245
    Likes Received:
    124
    Trophy Points:
    563
    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2016
    Reputation:
    That's great. It would mean Mel's Revenge counter would face away from them
     
  10. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

    Messages:
    18,036
    Likes Received:
    795
    Trophy Points:
    1,368
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Reputation:
    Yeah...at the sacrifice of Zeldris. Mel would be standing among the other TC and facing Zel who would be all alone to take the blast. That's not something Monspiet would do.

    So yeah, it'd work. It just wouldn't happen.
     
  11. xenos5 Objectionable Objection

    Messages:
    11,926
    Likes Received:
    1,560
    Trophy Points:
    1,443
    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2014
    Reputation:
    I don't think it required an exact equal.

    After all he was able to swap himself and Estarossa with the chokehold (despite Estarossa being much larger), and swap himself and Derriere (despite him being a good bit taller than her) to save her life.
     
  12. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

    Messages:
    18,036
    Likes Received:
    795
    Trophy Points:
    1,368
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Reputation:
    Maybe not exactly equal but around the same size for sure. And when it comes to Mel, only people like Zeldris, King, Ellaine, Helbram, etc are as around his size.

    Otherwise Monspiet could've replaced Mel's sword with a rock to stop his Revenge Counter.
     
  13. Escageta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    288
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    393
    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2017
    Reputation:
    Considering Estarossa stronger than Zeldris and Monspeet stronger than Estarossa does not mean Monspeet stronger than Zeldris. Every member has own ability that may not work on everyone. THAT'S IT.
     
  14. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

    Messages:
    18,036
    Likes Received:
    795
    Trophy Points:
    1,368
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Reputation:
    Wait, when was it ever stated that Monspiet was stronger than Estarosssa? Both he and Derieri nearly shit their pants when he came to their doorstep. From his first arrival he was hyped to be one of if not the strongest Commandment. Monspiet just has a special ability.

    I can go for the rest you said.
     
  15. Escageta Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    288
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    393
    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2017
    Reputation:
    I'm just supposing.
     
  16. Jackalinthebox Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    5,492
    Likes Received:
    434
    Trophy Points:
    688
    Joined:
    Sep 7, 2015
    Reputation:
    1. Zeldris
    2. Estarossa
    3. Monspiet
    4. Derierre
    5. Gloxinia
    6. Dolor
    7. Galan
    8. Melascula
    9. Grayroad
    10. Fraudrin
     
  17. TragicDeath Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    293
    Joined:
    May 21, 2016
    Reputation:
    1) Zeldris - 61000(Magic: 10000 Strength: 47200 Spirit: 3800)

    2) Estarossa - 60000(Magic: 3000 Strength: 53000 Spirit: 4000)

    3) Drole - 54000(Magic: 14000 Strength: 36500 Spirit: 3500)

    4) Monspiet - 53000(Magic: 34000 Strength: 16000 Spirit: 3000)

    5) Derrierie - 52000(Magic: 1500 Strength: 48000 Spirit: 2500)

    6) Gloxinia - 50000(Magic: 47000 Strength: 0 Spirit: 3000)

    7) Grayroad - 39000(Magic: 26500 Strength: 1000 Spirit: 2500)

    8) Merascylla - 34000(Magic: 31500 Strength: 500 Spirit: 2000)

    9) Fraudrin - 31000(Magic: 13000 Strength: 15000 Spirit: 3000)

    10) Gallan - 27000(Magic 1000 Strength: 24000 Spirit: 2000)
     
  18. Roadagain Goat's Sin of Lust Retired Staff

    Messages:
    5,263
    Likes Received:
    189
    Trophy Points:
    668
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2012
    Reputation:
    You know, it's funny that not only do you manage to ignore the opening post, but even then you manage to be wrong.
    If you only look at the power-levels, naturally you'll take into account Galan's own magic which does nothing but increase it, right? No?
     
  19. TragicDeath Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    440
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    293
    Joined:
    May 21, 2016
    Reputation:
    Manage to be wrong are you an idiot thats base on the databook. I dont care what you think but im just posting what the data book says its like youre arguing my post which is the boiling point of water is 212 farenheit, youre pathetic
     
  20. Roadagain Goat's Sin of Lust Retired Staff

    Messages:
    5,263
    Likes Received:
    189
    Trophy Points:
    668
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2012
    Reputation:
    Yeeeah, see last I checked, the manga itself is more relevant than the fanbook.
    Not that the fanbook is wrong in that Galan in base is 27k. But we know his magic gives him a way higher value, something we don't have for the others.
     
  21. Matto Chosen One

    Messages:
    8,727
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    Trophy Points:
    1,268
    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Reputation:
    To be fair, do we know that gives him a way higher value? Two other physical-type Commandments (Estarossa/Mael and Derrieri) have low magic stats: 3,000 and 1,500, respectively. Galan seems like the most clear-cut physical attacker out of the Commandments. I wouldn't be surprised if his magic stat only boosted his overall power level by 2-3,000.

    We obviously don't know for sure, though.
     
  22. Roadagain Goat's Sin of Lust Retired Staff

    Messages:
    5,263
    Likes Received:
    189
    Trophy Points:
    668
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2012
    Reputation:
    It's stated in the story that Critical Over has him hit 40k. That's nearly a 50% increase, I'd say it's pretty huge.
    That puts him above Fraudrin, Mera and Grayroad. (Which, of course, for the purposes of this thread doesn't matter, since numbers weren't the original topic)
     
  23. Matto Chosen One

    Messages:
    8,727
    Likes Received:
    1,478
    Trophy Points:
    1,268
    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Reputation:
    Isn't Critical Over a spell-type ability that temporarily boosts/doubles his physical stats, though?

    If that's the case that doesn't mean his magic stat has to be all that high.
     
  24. Roadagain Goat's Sin of Lust Retired Staff

    Messages:
    5,263
    Likes Received:
    189
    Trophy Points:
    668
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2012
    Reputation:
    All we really know is that he can boost himself to 40k total. His argument relied on the fact that Galan is 27k, which is not true in terms of what he can do in battle. Yeah, other characters might be able to boost themselves too, but we don't have specific info on that.
     
  25. Rax The Evil Within The Embers

    Messages:
    67,401
    Likes Received:
    1,429
    Trophy Points:
    2,643
    Joined:
    May 27, 2012
    Reputation:
    Catdank Faction:
    Maelstarossa! :datass
     
  26. RavenSupreme Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,252
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    518
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2015
    Reputation:
    Indura Monspiet / Derriere
    Estarossa (Base)
    Zeldris (Base)
    Monspiet (Base)
    Derriere (Base)

    The rest.

    Note that especially Monspiet in Base still has the means to contend with Zeldris and Estarossa given his unique magic.

    What a beast.
     
  27. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

    Messages:
    18,036
    Likes Received:
    795
    Trophy Points:
    1,368
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Reputation:
    You mean Trick Star? I wouldn't say that makes him a contender against them. I mean he was seriously trying to kill Esta who came out of it all with only burns.

    Also, I would put Mela above Monspiet simply because of her soul hax. They can all push out souls, but shes the only one known to be able to soulfuck fellow TC(talking about what she was going to do to Mel).
     
  28. RavenSupreme Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,252
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    518
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2015
    Reputation:
    TrickStar Monspiet had completely destroyed Estarossa, He could have legit killed him if not for Derriere being PIStupid.
     
  29. Lord Valgaav Atomic Sables!

    Messages:
    18,036
    Likes Received:
    795
    Trophy Points:
    1,368
    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2008
    Reputation:
    But wasn't he just planning on breaking his neck? That wouldn't have killed him.

    Then when he went all Chaiotzu on him, that didn't work either.
     
  30. RavenSupreme Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,252
    Likes Received:
    186
    Trophy Points:
    518
    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2015
    Reputation:
    Having an incapacitated enemy in front of you and your arms in a deadlock around his neck thats a great way for a fight to go isnt it?

    Estarossa blacked out for a little - only to come back to coscniousness and take his chance. If Mosnpiet simply would have had the chance to continue putting pressure on the neck he would have fainted significantly longer. Giving him the means to end it for good.
     
Loading...