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Ten Commandments(Order of strongest to weakest?)

Discussion in 'Nanatsu no Taizai' started by AJBeckyBlissRollins, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. AJBeckyBlissRollins Active Member

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    What is the general order taking feats into account rather than just power levels?
     
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    Before I rank them, there are a few things I don't understand about their powers:

    1. If Monspiet's Trick Star can swap things, why didn't he swap Meliodas and himself/whatever when Mel tried to Revenge Counter all of them back then?

    2. Why was Estarossa able to block the Revenge Counter easily when the rest (especially Zeldoris) acted like they couldn't do shit? If you say because of his Love commandment, then Mel shouldn't be able to do anything in the first place, let alone initiate the attack. I don't recall they can turn their Commandments on and off either.

    3. Where was it said they are immune to other commandments?

    4. So exactly what is Zeldoris's magic power? I know it's called God and he borrows from Demon King but so far I have no idea specifically what he can do.

    5. Why Gloxinia (and King) has physical stat as zero measured by Balor's Eyes? Even Elaine has some units in that aspect. It's not like King and Gloxinia are literally strength-less...shouldn't they be at least 1 or 2?
     
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    1.Zeldris
    2.Monspiet??
    3.Estarossa
    4.Derierre
    5.Dolor
    6.Gloxinia
    7.Galan
    8.Merscylla
    9.Greyroad
    10.Fraudrin
     
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    1. Monspiet (Indura)
    2. Derieri (Indura)
    3. Zeldris (God)
    4. Mael (Estarossa Persona)
    5. Gloxina
    6. Dolor
    7. Melascula
    8. Galan
    9. Grayroad
    10. Fraudrin
     
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  5. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    1. Estarossa
    2. Zeldris
    3. Melaschula
    4. Monspiet
    5. Grayroad
    6. Derieri
    7. Gloxina
    8. Dolor
    9. Galan
    10. Fraudrin
     
  6. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    1. You mean so he can save himself while all the others die? The french demons got a sense of honor.

    2. The others literally couldn't do anything. The attack had all their power plus his mixed into one huge blast.

    Estarossa didn't step in until that point, so theres likely a range limit to his Love since before that point he stayed far in the back. But yes, it was Love that nulled the attack.

    3. Don't recall exactly but it was definitely mentioned and is accurate.

    4. His commandment is the Piety. Anyone who turns there backs on him will become loyal slaves to the DK.

    No one knows what Zel's full power is like. But his dad must not have had too much faith in him since he felt the need to give him some of his power in addition to his commandment.

    5. Likely just comedic effect. :catshrug
     
  7. GilDLax Well-Known Member

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    I did say ''/whatever''. Which means he can also swap Mel and an object so that Mel's attack would not direct at them inhis new position

    It doesn't look like Mel was that far from them.
     
  8. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    Well he'd first need something of equal size. Only thing available like that would be Zeldris. :maybe
     
  9. GilDLax Well-Known Member

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    That's great. It would mean Mel's Revenge counter would face away from them
     
  10. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    Yeah...at the sacrifice of Zeldris. Mel would be standing among the other TC and facing Zel who would be all alone to take the blast. That's not something Monspiet would do.

    So yeah, it'd work. It just wouldn't happen.
     
  11. xenos5 Objectionable Objection

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    I don't think it required an exact equal.

    After all he was able to swap himself and Estarossa with the chokehold (despite Estarossa being much larger), and swap himself and Derriere (despite him being a good bit taller than her) to save her life.
     
  12. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    Maybe not exactly equal but around the same size for sure. And when it comes to Mel, only people like Zeldris, King, Ellaine, Helbram, etc are as around his size.

    Otherwise Monspiet could've replaced Mel's sword with a rock to stop his Revenge Counter.
     
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    Considering Estarossa stronger than Zeldris and Monspeet stronger than Estarossa does not mean Monspeet stronger than Zeldris. Every member has own ability that may not work on everyone. THAT'S IT.
     
  14. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    Wait, when was it ever stated that Monspiet was stronger than Estarosssa? Both he and Derieri nearly shit their pants when he came to their doorstep. From his first arrival he was hyped to be one of if not the strongest Commandment. Monspiet just has a special ability.

    I can go for the rest you said.
     
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    I'm just supposing.
     
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    1. Zeldris
    2. Estarossa
    3. Monspiet
    4. Derierre
    5. Gloxinia
    6. Dolor
    7. Galan
    8. Melascula
    9. Grayroad
    10. Fraudrin
     
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    1) Zeldris - 61000(Magic: 10000 Strength: 47200 Spirit: 3800)

    2) Estarossa - 60000(Magic: 3000 Strength: 53000 Spirit: 4000)

    3) Drole - 54000(Magic: 14000 Strength: 36500 Spirit: 3500)

    4) Monspiet - 53000(Magic: 34000 Strength: 16000 Spirit: 3000)

    5) Derrierie - 52000(Magic: 1500 Strength: 48000 Spirit: 2500)

    6) Gloxinia - 50000(Magic: 47000 Strength: 0 Spirit: 3000)

    7) Grayroad - 39000(Magic: 26500 Strength: 1000 Spirit: 2500)

    8) Merascylla - 34000(Magic: 31500 Strength: 500 Spirit: 2000)

    9) Fraudrin - 31000(Magic: 13000 Strength: 15000 Spirit: 3000)

    10) Gallan - 27000(Magic 1000 Strength: 24000 Spirit: 2000)
     
  18. Roadagain Goat's Sin of Lust Retired Staff

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    You know, it's funny that not only do you manage to ignore the opening post, but even then you manage to be wrong.
    If you only look at the power-levels, naturally you'll take into account Galan's own magic which does nothing but increase it, right? No?
     
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    Manage to be wrong are you an idiot thats base on the databook. I dont care what you think but im just posting what the data book says its like youre arguing my post which is the boiling point of water is 212 farenheit, youre pathetic
     
  20. Roadagain Goat's Sin of Lust Retired Staff

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    Yeeeah, see last I checked, the manga itself is more relevant than the fanbook.
    Not that the fanbook is wrong in that Galan in base is 27k. But we know his magic gives him a way higher value, something we don't have for the others.
     
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    To be fair, do we know that gives him a way higher value? Two other physical-type Commandments (Estarossa/Mael and Derrieri) have low magic stats: 3,000 and 1,500, respectively. Galan seems like the most clear-cut physical attacker out of the Commandments. I wouldn't be surprised if his magic stat only boosted his overall power level by 2-3,000.

    We obviously don't know for sure, though.
     
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    It's stated in the story that Critical Over has him hit 40k. That's nearly a 50% increase, I'd say it's pretty huge.
    That puts him above Fraudrin, Mera and Grayroad. (Which, of course, for the purposes of this thread doesn't matter, since numbers weren't the original topic)
     
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    Isn't Critical Over a spell-type ability that temporarily boosts/doubles his physical stats, though?

    If that's the case that doesn't mean his magic stat has to be all that high.
     
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    All we really know is that he can boost himself to 40k total. His argument relied on the fact that Galan is 27k, which is not true in terms of what he can do in battle. Yeah, other characters might be able to boost themselves too, but we don't have specific info on that.
     
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    Maelstarossa! :datass
     
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    Indura Monspiet / Derriere
    Estarossa (Base)
    Zeldris (Base)
    Monspiet (Base)
    Derriere (Base)

    The rest.

    Note that especially Monspiet in Base still has the means to contend with Zeldris and Estarossa given his unique magic.

    What a beast.
     
  27. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    You mean Trick Star? I wouldn't say that makes him a contender against them. I mean he was seriously trying to kill Esta who came out of it all with only burns.

    Also, I would put Mela above Monspiet simply because of her soul hax. They can all push out souls, but shes the only one known to be able to soulfuck fellow TC(talking about what she was going to do to Mel).
     
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    TrickStar Monspiet had completely destroyed Estarossa, He could have legit killed him if not for Derriere being PIStupid.
     
  29. Lord Valgaav My fries

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    But wasn't he just planning on breaking his neck? That wouldn't have killed him.

    Then when he went all Chaiotzu on him, that didn't work either.
     
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    Having an incapacitated enemy in front of you and your arms in a deadlock around his neck thats a great way for a fight to go isnt it?

    Estarossa blacked out for a little - only to come back to coscniousness and take his chance. If Mosnpiet simply would have had the chance to continue putting pressure on the neck he would have fainted significantly longer. Giving him the means to end it for good.
     
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