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'Terrorist' cleared of gito charges.

Discussion in 'The NF Café' started by Hi Im God, Jun 5, 2007.

  1. Hi Im God Active Member

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    Guantanamo Canadian case dropped

    A US military judge has dropped charges against a Canadian held at Guantanamo Bay, saying he could not be tried under new laws governing military tribunals.

    Omar Khadr was just 15 years old when he was captured in Afghanistan.
    He appeared in court charged with murder, attempted murder, conspiracy and providing support for terrorism.
    But the judge ruled he could not be tried under current laws because he was not classified as an "unlawful" enemy combatant in previous hearings.
    The charges were dismissed "without prejudice", said Col Peter Brownback, the presiding judge.
    Mr Khadr had been classified as an "enemy combatant" under a previous tribunal system that was eventually thrown out in 2006 by the US Supreme Court.
    But under new legislation approved by President George W Bush, only detainees classified as "unlawful enemy combatants" can face trial at Guantanamo Bay.





    AP:

    "You could have heard a pin drop in the courtroom this morning when the judge announced his decision. He was the one, incidentally, who noticed the discrepancy," CTV's Washington Bureau Chief Tom Clark reported from Guantanamo Bay.
    Khadr, now 20, had been classified as an "enemy combatant" by a military panel years earlier at Guantanamo Bay.
    But because he was not classified as an "alien unlawful enemy combatant," Army Col. Peter Brownback said he had no choice but to throw the case out.
    "The charges are dismissed without prejudice," Brownback said as he adjourned the proceeding.
    Under the Military Commissions Act, which U.S. President George Bush signed last year after the Supreme Court threw out the previous war-crimes trial system, only those classified as "unlawful" enemy combatants can face war trials there.
    "Obviously there are illegal enemy combatants and then there are legal enemy combatants," Clark said.
    "In other words if you're wearing the uniform of another country, just because you fired a shot in anger at an American soldier doesn't mean that it is illegal," Clark said.
    The ramifications of the ruling are an "unbelievable defeat for the Bush administration and the previous Congress that enacted this. It is enormous," Clark said.

    Khadr faced charges he committed murder in violation of the law of war, attempted murder in violation of the law of war, conspiracy, providing material support for terrorism and spying.
    The son of an alleged al Qaeda financier, Khadr was accused of killing U.S. Army Sgt. Christopher Speer with a grenade during a firefight in Afghanistan on July 27, 2002.
    While the judge has dismissed the charges against Khadr, authorities have said they can still legally hold him as an enemy combatant.
    "Nobody should be under any false impressions. Omar Khadr is not leaving Guantanamo Bay anytime soon," Clark said.

    Meanwhile, the prosecutors have asked the judge for 72 hours in which to appeal.
    "They are trying to appeal to a court within the next 72 hours, a court that does not exist and that they are hoping that might be made up in the next 72 hours. The chaos around this system is almost indescribable," Clark said.
    Khadr is one of three prisoners of the approximately 380 men held at the isolated military base to be formally charged under the new military tribunal system.
    "Certainly a number of military lawyers here are hoping that this will open the door to throwing all of these cases into a civilian court system, which they say works perfectly well," Clark said.
    "What the military defence lawyers are saying here is that this proves once and for all that the military commission system is simply unworkable and should be disbanded as quickly as possible,"
    he said.
    Khadr, an Ottawa native, was 15 when he was first brought to the U.S. military prison camp in southeast Cuba.
    He became the first juvenile to be charged with war crimes in modern history."This is something that did not happen in the former Yugoslavia, it didn't happen in Rwanda and it didn't happen in Sierra Leone where kids were involved in all sorts of horrific war-crime activities," Muneer Ahmad, former lawyer for Khadr, told Canada AM from Washington on Monday.
    In Ottawa, Foreign Affairs officials said they were reviewing the situation, but had no other immediate comment.
    Khadr's sister, Zaynab, said the family was "very shocked" by the ruling.
    "We always had hope and we pray and we're going to continue doing that," she told CTV Newsnet.
    With files from The Associated Press
     
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    this is an absurd legal-ese technicality, and will only piss of a whole lot of conservatives around the world but especially in USA
     
  3. GrimaH Absurdist

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    The rule kind of evokes a sense of honour doesn't it.
     
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    it appears to hinge on whether or not this guy wore a uniform? i mean who the fuck cares so ridiculous, all we care about is did he try killing us troops in combat, even if he was 15 if he was tossing grenades at soldiers thats a crime period. i can kinda see the bush admin's point because the taliban was not really a legit government to begin with
     
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    Of course you should probably do a little research into the whole issue first before passing judgment without knowing the whole situation right?

    He killed a soldier; that is NOT terrorism!

    Khadr represents one of many paradoxical symptoms of the absurdity which guides current western approaches to middle east policy. Having a 'war on terrorism' requires one to identify what 'terrorism' is. Since at best it's a tactic, and at worst it's an abstraction, the necessary identification process is much too complicated to allow for the kind of support needed for war.

    So, this war on terrorism is basically riding on, and being fueled by a pander to nothing more than homogenized notions of us versus them. The Khadr example is precisely uncomfortable because in it, the us is them, which causes us to question who exactly it is we are fighting against.
     
  6. kulgan18 Mecha freak.

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    A crime according to who?, So US soldiers can toss grenades where they please, Pilots can drop bombs against them, and thats not a crime.

    The fact that is the invading country the one that decides what is legal or not, makes the "legality" of it completly irrelevant.
    Point made, the kid is being held indefinetely anyway. lol.

    This is just an example of how stupid this all global war on terrorism concept really is.
     
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    Imo america does much more crimes than afghanistan they just dont show it
     
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    It's called a WAR.
     
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    So basically, he's being held indefinitely without trial?

    Go US Constitution!

    Go Geneva Convention!
     
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