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The Commanders should be stronger than Kuma?

Discussion in 'Ohara Library' started by Milkydean, May 11, 2018.

  1. Milkydean Well-Known Member

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    If Kuma was a just a regular member like Ivankov,then the commanders should be stronger than him.Or was Kuma not directly under the RA's power hierarchy?
     
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    Kuma was definitely not a regular member considering the important roll he was filling for the army. Off of first impressions I don't see any of these new commanders being stronger than him either. Only Ivankov has really shown himself to be on his level.
     
  3. Shiba D. Inu Will of the D.oge

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    We'll see if they are stronger than Ivankov tbh
     
  4. Dre Hell Up

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    They should be on or above his level but below Sabo.
     
  5. Milkydean Well-Known Member

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    Their introduction was definitely underwhelming but you think they are weaker than Ivankov?They are the commanders after all,and Ivankov is regular member like Koala and Hack.
     
  6. Ajin Demi-Human

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    Ivankov is regular member? Since when? He is not only commander, but also Dragon's closest friend as it seems. I wouldn't be surprised if he is the strongest revolutionary right after Sabo. Also his mission of infiltrating Impel Down and recruiting new member while waiting for new orders seemed much more dangerous than simply staying in one of Blues and fighting WG's forces.
     
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  7. Marcelle.B Super Moderator

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    I would say they're on Inazuma's level.

    Ivankov is a commander

     
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  8. Milkydean Well-Known Member

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    I didn't know Ivankov was a commander.
     
  9. Sherlōck High Functioning Sociopath

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    I expect the commanders to be on the same level as Kuma at least.
     
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    They should open next chapter with another two tables full of commanders if they want to build some hype :catsun
     
  11. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    I think the top members of the Revo's are Kuma, Ivankov, and Sabo.
     
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  12. Kamina. Ruler of the Tower

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    Damn a literal child got promoted over these four :gglife
     
  13. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    We have seen this happen before, Sabo's position is out of trust and potential.

    Just like how Ace was in the second division because WB liked and his potential to lead the pact down the line.
     
  14. Kamina. Ruler of the Tower

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    How incompetent at your job do you have to be to lose a promotion to a 10 year old child.
     
  15. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    Its not incompetence, its about Dragon showing his faith and trust in Sabo's potential as leader and commander.

    Its like a young prince given command of an army on order of the King because he believes in him, sometimes it fails miserably, other times it works out and the person you trusted and promoted lives up to the potential.
     
  16. Kamina. Ruler of the Tower

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    As a 10 year old child????
     
  17. Milkydean Well-Known Member

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    What is this talk about the 10 year old child?
     
  18. Furinji Saiga The One Shadow

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    We do not know when Sabo was made second in command of the Revo army.

    I highly doubt it was when he was 10 years old, my guess is its more recent.
     
  19. Milkydean Well-Known Member

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    Obviously.He was atleast 15-16 when he was made the second in command probably.
     
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    Hard to tell really.

    Kuma seemed to be on the level of Ivankov, who was a commander himself.
     
  21. Dunno Well-Known Member

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    I would expect Kuma to be stronger than these new guys.
     
  22. NOX Indubitable

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    Doubt it. Kuma was a founding member and is one of the powerful characters within his adoptive factions. Bear in mind this is him mid-way through Vegapunk's surgeries. That Kuma matched up against Ivankov, who Doflamingo [an information broker] deemed vital enough to be a player in the Throne Wars. IMO outside Dragon and Sabo, I'd pick Kuma [with his brain] over the other Commanders.
     
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    Agreed. We'll have to wait to see how things play out, but consider this. Sabo is not a designated commander. His title is Chief of Staff, yet he is the RA's distinguished No. 2. I think it's likely that Ivankov has a similar role in the RA. I've got no idea what the title would be or what Ivankov's role actually is, but he is far too prominent to be a regular member. Seems like Dragon's personal adviser. Considering this isn't a pirate crew, I don't see why we'd automatically assume it would be structured like one.

    Unless we see some more out of the commanders or at least get some bounties, I don't see any reason to think that the commanders are stronger than Ivankov or Brain Kuma for that matter.
     
  24. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    We honestly have no idea about how strong Kuma is.
    We never saw him go all out.
     
  25. Bohemian Knight Well-Known Member

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    Roughly Ivankov level. Give or take. I know Ivankov was confident against Kuma and all, but that overconfidence is a part of his quirk.

    The problem is that Ivankov is incredibly hard to place because he didn't fight any characters that we've seen post-skip. So that's anybody's guess.
     
  26. Amol Chief of Wisdom

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    I always thought that it is just Iva boasting about himself. I am not saying Iva is weak but we can't be 100% sure that he really is on Kuma's level.
     
  27. perman07 Per ler mer

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    Kuma's level? How high even is that? I'd say Kuma might be pretty high up in the tier below Admirals and Yonkous, comparable to yonkou first-mates. I am purely basing this on how competent he always came across, he was not unsure around Kizaro and Rayleigh. He also had one of the more hax powers, there is nothing that paw can't reject really.

    I doubt the revolutionary army has 4 people at first-mate level besides Sabo.
     
  28. Bohemian Knight Well-Known Member

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    That's what I was getting at. I always just assumed they were around the same level. I hope Kuma proves to be stronger than I've got him pegged. He's a badass character that had a surprisingly big impact on the story. You've got to figure Oda's got a lot more in store for him once we get to the Vegapunk reveal.
     
  29. Edward Teach Well-Known Member

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    An all out serious Kuma is probably first mate level. I really don't see them being above Kuma. Maybe around his level.
     
  30. DA hawk Well-Known Member

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    I would be delighted if any of them was on Kuma lvl tbh, for me brainy Kuma can hang with guys like cracker, doffy and jozu easy.
     
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