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The Death God Seal

Discussion in 'Naruto Theories' started by azn7136, May 31, 2007.

  1. azn7136 ~W-[Kami]-W~

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    So far we know that it basically just suck the opponenets soul and you both die. Owned. But there seems to be a variation to this. When Yondaime sealed it in Naruto, there were several layers to that seal, one that allowed Naruto's chakra to slowly mold with Kyuubi's, one that allowed Naruto to use his chakra to stop the Kyuubi's, and one that basically just keeps that damn fox in there. The layers would come off just like all layers come off, one at a time. This is why the Akatsui will most likely not be able to remove the seal without proper jutsus. If any of the seals were removed. Then it would become possible for ALL of the Kyuubi's chakra to flood into Naruto, or all of it to mix with Naruto (assuming Kyuubi has a limit). here is a pretty good summary of the Seal from Wikipedia (Didn't want to write it out by hand)

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    "The Dead Demon Consuming Seal is a seal that invokes the powers of the death god. Once called upon, the death god hovers behind the user and remains invisible to the opponent until it has grasped their soul. Unlike many of the other seals used throughout the series, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal has served different purposes for each of it uses. When first used by the Fourth Hokage, it sealed the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox within Naruto Uzumaki. Once the demon fox was sealed within Naruto, the Fourth used a Four Symbols Seal (Shishō Fūin?, English TV "Double Tetragram Seal") and the Eight Trigrams Sealing Style (Hakke no Fūin Shiki?, English TV "Eight Signed Seal") so that the demon fox's chakra could mix with Naruto's.
    When later used by the Third Hokage's shadow clones, the Dead Demon Consuming Seal sealed the souls of the First and Second Hokage within the clones' bodies. When used again by the actual Third Hokage, it sealed Orochimaru's arms, preventing their use.

    Once summoned, the death god reaches its arm into the summoner, signifying the hold it has upon the summoner's soul. Once the sealing is completed, the death god consumes the user's soul almost immediately afterwards. In the cases of the first two Hokages, the death god consumed their souls in addition to the souls of the clones, suggesting that it consumes whatever souls are present within the user's body. Once a soul has been eaten by the death god, it resides within the death god's stomach, destined to do battle with its fellow souls for all eternity."


    Basically there are two other layers that allow Kyuubi to slowly *merge* with naruto. The Akatsuki cannot remove the Kyuubi entirely. Because the Kyuubi is already sealed as well, and it seems only Naruto can release teh seal, then perhaps he must unseal himself. This can also contribute to any other theories that if the seal is used, then it can be used by one controlling an individual (SHapeshifting technique) because the controller soul is not in the body. Read the description of the AKatsuki jutsu that allows them to remove the beasts from a body ( from wiki again)

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    This jutsu is used by the Akatsuki leader and his subordinates in tandem to forcibly drain the spirit and chakra of the tailed beasts from their hosts, then seal it in a large statue. The jutsu takes three days to complete. Kisame Hoshigaki commented that the jutsu takes longer without Orochimaru present, though whether this means that Orochimaru created the jutsu, or that the presence of all ten Akatsuki members is necessary for the greatest efficiency is unknown.

    To prepare for the jutsu, the Akatsuki leader summons the sealing statue and each member stands on one of its fingers, corresponding to their specific ring finger. When performed, this jutsu causes the bit to fall out of the mouth of the statue. Each of the Akatsuki members present then concentrate, causing the kanji of their ring to appear on the nail of the finger they're standing on. Nine dragon-like effigies then pour from the statue's mouth, surround the captured host, and remove the tailed beast from them (the process seems quite agonizing to the host). In the case of an unsealed tailed beast, the same thing happens to the beast itself.




    If the Kyuubi's chakra has been *mergin* with Naruto's then it will be very hard to remove, or not possible at all, and even in removed, traces of the Kyuubi will remain in Naruto due to the fact their chakras have been merging. Also this could cause them to suck naruto out of his body, too because Naruto and Kyuubi are slowly becoming one.

    Finally, all things capture by teh Death god Jutsu cannot be totally DEAD. There souls are inside the stomach of teh Death God, and are *destined to do battle for all eternity*. Is it possible to revive a soul from the Death God with some sort of payment or consequence? The ppl are not literally dead, their souls still exist, so maybe they can be revived (have to find a body though).
     
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  2. Astaroth ど~~ん!

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    Unfortunately for any and all jinchuuriki, AL seems to be a master of selaing/unsealing things. If he's as uber as I think he is, he should be able to undo Jiraiya's Five-Element Seal and the original seal with no problem.
     
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    Yeah I mean AL can perform jutsu even when he's not around plus he leads the the akatsuki so I'll guess he'll have a way around the seal
     
  4. azn7136 ~W-[Kami]-W~

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    That's not what I am talking about. You see, there are three layers, the first two that must be removed first. The first two *REGULATE* the flow of Kyuubi's chakra into Naruto. If those are gone, the Kyuubi is practically released into Naruto. Also, Naruto's chakra is almost totally one with Kyuubi;s as their chakra's were mizing... UHM Jiriaya's Five element seal? Noo... that was Orochimaru;s, Jiraiya removed it.
     
  5. breakbeat oratory bamboleo.

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    Well once Naruto's chakra has merged with the Kyuubi's, there's no doubt that it will still be powerful on the level of a deity.
    So even if the two chakras merge, the Akatsuki could still just pull out Naruto's chakra and keep that. It's not like they care about his life.
     
  6. Tyrannos Living a Life

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    Kishi said himself in an interview (which should still be around on this forum) that we will never see the Shiki Fuujin ever again. The Sandaime was the only other person who knew the Jutsu to summon it.
     
  7. azn7136 ~W-[Kami]-W~

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    Yeah... I meant if there was a way to revive people inside teh Death God's stomach... So far we know all the Hokage's except Tsunade are in there and Orochimaru's hands o.o
    Just Orochimaru's hands could do their own amount of damage.

    Also we know that Jinchurriki die when Bijuu is extracted from them. But the method used on naruto is different then most others. Is there a possibility for him to survive?
     
  8. kasai_uzumaki Ninja from land of firestorm

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    The seal is already weakend and why couldn't they just ripe out a merged Naruto/fox???
     
  9. kiroisenko PURE OWNAGE

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    no. once the soul is eaten by the death god it is trapped forever inside the death god's stomach. even if their souls exist inside the shinigami it doesnt change the fact that those people are DEAD.
     
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