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The Difference Between "So Bad, It's Good" and Simply Awful Films

Discussion in 'Konoha Theatre' started by DemonDragonJ, Nov 29, 2018.

  1. DemonDragonJ Agnus Dei

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    There are both good movies and bad movies, but there are actually two types of bad movies, so this thread shall be focusing on those movies.

    Some movies are simply awful, with no redeeming qualities, but other movies are so awful that they actually are hilarious in a certain way, a phenomenon that is commonly known as “so bad, it’s good.” Therefore, this thread shall be discussing the differences between a movies that is “so bad, it’s good” and plain awful; please keep in mind that much of this thread is entirely subjective, and that some people may have different

    Some of the best-known examples of “so bad, it’s good” are Plan 9 from Outer Space and Batman and Robin, as both of those films have acting that is horrifically corny and campy, yet is hilarious because of how the actors are taking themselves so seriously despite the non-seriousness of their acting. I also feel that the 1998 Godzilla film can be placed in this category, as well.

    Then, there are movies that are simply terrible and have no positive qualities, at all, such as Battlefield Earth, Date Movie, Disaster Movie, Epic Movie, Scary Movie, Not Another Teen Movie, Meet the Spartans, Vampires Suck, and so forth; such movies are entirely parody and satire, basing their entire existence on in-jokes that poke fun at well-known aspects of popular culture to disguise (or, in some cases, accentuate) their utter lack of plot or emotional depth.

    What does everyone else say about this? How do you distinguish between “so bad, it’s good” and plain awful?
     
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  2. Kuromaku Shiftless Loser

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    While your own post already answers the question to some extent, I'll expand on it by pointing out that to be "so bad, it's good", the movie can't be in on the joke, the joke being that the movie is laughably bad. This sort of self-awareness, when intentional, robs a movie of being legitimately bad in the sense of being "so bad, it's good", as the charm of the latter is that there is an earnestness to the proceedings that lies in amusing juxtaposition to the poor quality of the final product.

    It's why stuff like Kung Fury doesn't really work as well when trying to be "so bad, it's good, and instead, has to be judged by its other merits. An example of this done with competence is Black Dynamite, which evokes the technical and cultural issues in old blaxploitation while still carrying out its duties as a movie in its own right.
     
  3. Stunna Fix your hearts or die Retired Staff

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    Intention and entertainment value.
     
  4. MartialHorror The Convicted Cinephile!

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    To me, a 'so bad it's good' film has the perfect blend of incompetence, competence and the surreal. I include 'competence' because some levels of "bad" are incapable of being entertaining. For example, "Troll 2" is horrible in so many ways, but at least it was always adequately lit and shot. Would people have had fun with it if most of the action was incomprehensible because of shitty lighting and camerawork? Maybe competence is too generous though, as it's more of a lack of...complete incompetence?

    Obviously 'incompetence' speaks for itself. "Troll 2" was badly acted, written and had horrible effects, but that's the type of incompetence that can be funny. Finally, when it comes to "surreal", you can exchange the word with weird, strange or bizarre. A movie called "Troll 2" that is about Goblins who are vegetarians, so turn humans into plans so they can eat them? That's bizarre and part of the films appeal. If the Goblins were just eating people, it wouldn't be as memorable.
     
  5. wibisana still newbie

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    If you can enjoy it.
    This is the main answer
     
  6. Skaddix Well-Known Member

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    You know it when you see it...so bad its good means its bad on an objective technical level but its still entertaining for you to watch.
     
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