Endeavor apologist thread Just want to present some info, its unknown if Endeavor and Rei had a forced marriage, Shouto said it, but we haven't heard it from everyone else. The most monstrous thing we have heard is that Endeavor call Shouto his greatest creation, but that isn't proof in of itself. There is also the problem of how he would have found it out. I doubt his mom would tell him of such complicated stuff to a 5 year old, nor would he really comprehend, I don't think Endeavor would go on bragging about it. This leads me to think Shouto either made it up to rationalize it or was told by one of his sibilings(I don't think Shouto would talk to his mom's side all that much), who fall into the same problem of I don't think anyone would have told them at such a young age either. Some other things to consider is that Endeavor and Rei were together for at least 13+ years before she got sent to a mental hospital. That is a long time to stay in a loveless marriage. Fuyumi is 22 years old and Shouto is 15 or 16, That means Rei had 4 children in the span of 7-8 years with Endeavor, that is a highish rate, but that is still a rate of roughly one child every 2 years. She wasn't just constantly pumping out babies like we would imagine. We also have to consider how long it takes for a child to manifest their quirk. By the time the second child manifested his quirk, Shouto would have been born. As far as we know there were no other kids after Shouto, meaning Endeavor went 4 years without a child without knowing that Shouto would have manifested his quirk(hair color gives this away but it doesn't mean anything till they manifest it). There is still not enough evidence to prove either way, the key to determining it will be if Dabi is a Todoroki or not and that will shed light on the situation. Just wanted to make this thread to organize my thoughts.